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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Sun May 10, 2020 2:46 pm

Say what you want about Bra; Multiverse has plenty of other badass women, wouldn't you agree?
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Brikikoz » Sun May 10, 2020 3:28 pm

Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:46 pm Say what you want about Bra; Multiverse has plenty of other badass women, wouldn't you agree?
Ya, there's lots of good characters whose potential is left untapped. The Bojack girls, for example, had potential but that universe seems to have left the general plot.

Funny side detail, people forget that Bra's mom Bulma tried to straight up murder Goku the first minute they met. And then peed her pants.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TobyS » Sun May 10, 2020 8:52 pm

Brikikoz wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:28 pm
Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:46 pm Say what you want about Bra; Multiverse has plenty of other badass women, wouldn't you agree?
Ya, there's lots of good characters whose potential is left untapped. The Bojack girls, for example, had potential but that universe seems to have left the general plot.

Funny side detail, people forget that Bra's mom Bulma tried to straight up murder Goku the first minute they met. And then peed her pants.
I think the big difference is we know Bulma was selfish and spoiled and stuff. We are supposed to think she's a dick but find her loveable anyway like most dragonball characters.

Whereas Bra sucks yet it just feels while reading it that we are supposed to think she is badass and cool, or at least a compelling villian.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Sun May 10, 2020 10:36 pm

TobyS wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:52 pm I think the big difference is we know Bulma was selfish and spoiled and stuff. We are supposed to think she's a dick but find her loveable anyway like most dragonball characters.
The narrative didn't play her with any amount of seriousness, either. She was made the butt of like, 50% of the jokes, and most of her suffering was completely self-inflicted. There were no pretenses, there.
Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Brikikoz » Sun May 10, 2020 10:52 pm

TobyS wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:52 pm
Whereas Bra sucks yet it just feels while reading it that we are supposed to think she is badass and cool, or at least a compelling villian.
I don't think we are supposed to think she's badass and cool at all. She's an unstable person who is pretty selfish like her father(s). An entire chapter was devoted to showing that's her problem. That was the literal title. So the idea that we're supposed to like her is pretty unsubstantiated.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Fionordequester » Sun May 10, 2020 11:22 pm

Brikikoz wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 10:52 pm I don't think we are supposed to think she's badass and cool at all. She's an unstable person who is pretty selfish like her father(s). An entire chapter was devoted to showing that's her problem. That was the literal title. So the idea that we're supposed to like her is pretty unsubstantiated.
You don't think you're misremembering just a little?

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"Bra's Little Problem" is a pretty cutesy way of putting it, even if what you're saying is technically true.
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Kataphrut wrote:It's a bit of a Boy Who Cried Wolf situation to me...Basically, the boy shouldn't have cried wolf when the wolves just wanted to Go See Yamcha. If not, they might have gotten some help when the wolves came back to Make the Donuts.
Chuquita wrote:I liken Gokû Black to "guy can't stand his job, so instead of quitting and finding a job he likes, he instead sets fire not only to his workplace so he doesn't have to work there, but tries setting fire to every store in the franchise of that company".

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun May 10, 2020 11:27 pm

Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 10:36 pm
TobyS wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:52 pm I think the big difference is we know Bulma was selfish and spoiled and stuff. We are supposed to think she's a dick but find her loveable anyway like most dragonball characters.
The narrative didn't play her with any amount of seriousness, either. She was made the butt of like, 50% of the jokes, and most of her suffering was completely self-inflicted. There were no pretenses, there.
That's exactly how I feel too.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon May 11, 2020 9:09 am

Bra could have used this power up to fight Vegito blaming him for all her problems. Vegito realizes that what Bra is saying is true. He wanted an heir and to make her just like him instead of letting her be herself and being a parent.

Vegito admits he was wrong for the first time, Bra realizes She and her father aren't Gods that can do what ever they want. Salagir can show how powerful the two truly are and everyone is happy. Actually charcter development.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Mon May 11, 2020 9:19 am

Brikikoz wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 3:28 pm
Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 2:46 pm Say what you want about Bra; Multiverse has plenty of other badass women, wouldn't you agree?
Ya, there's lots of good characters whose potential is left untapped. The Bojack girls, for example, had potential but that universe seems to have left the general plot.
Wow I forgot about them. One of the girls could reasonably halve Bra's energy. The other one could use her attraction spell, no idea what the third could do, but the first and second girl would be quite the boon here....oh well?
Funny side detail, people forget that Bra's mom Bulma tried to straight up murder Goku the first minute they met. And then peed her pants.
What exactly is the point of saying that? That brats begat brats or something? Because that is not how nature or nurture works.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TobyS » Mon May 11, 2020 11:26 am

Brikikoz wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 10:52 pm
TobyS wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 8:52 pm
Whereas Bra sucks yet it just feels while reading it that we are supposed to think she is badass and cool, or at least a compelling villian.
I don't think we are supposed to think she's badass and cool at all. She's an unstable person who is pretty selfish like her father(s). An entire chapter was devoted to showing that's her problem. That was the literal title. So the idea that we're supposed to like her is pretty unsubstantiated.
RIght but she completly has faced no consequences for this is the big difference, she just keeps winning relying on other characters being dumb (2 fusions ignored, standing around, teleporting too far away from cell, Piccolo not using telepathy instead of shouting his plan, Buu just not using his healing for some reason, Gohan's Jr not realising Gohan meant to go to babidi, babidi dodging a U13 laser somehow, so on and so on).

Once or twice is good drama, but this is getting ridiculous.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Brikikoz » Mon May 11, 2020 2:22 pm

Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 11:22 pm
Brikikoz wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 10:52 pm I don't think we are supposed to think she's badass and cool at all. She's an unstable person who is pretty selfish like her father(s). An entire chapter was devoted to showing that's her problem. That was the literal title. So the idea that we're supposed to like her is pretty unsubstantiated.
You don't think you're misremembering just a little?

"Bra's Little Problem" is a pretty cutesy way of putting it, even if what you're saying is technically true.
Not at all. When I read that special, I took away "ok, so as a kid she had severe anger issues. She's gonna be even more of a problem as an adult."

Did you get a different interpretation from that special? She came across as a horrible brat the whole time to me.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon May 11, 2020 5:02 pm

Brikikoz wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:22 pm
Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 11:22 pm
Brikikoz wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 10:52 pm I don't think we are supposed to think she's badass and cool at all. She's an unstable person who is pretty selfish like her father(s). An entire chapter was devoted to showing that's her problem. That was the literal title. So the idea that we're supposed to like her is pretty unsubstantiated.
You don't think you're misremembering just a little?

"Bra's Little Problem" is a pretty cutesy way of putting it, even if what you're saying is technically true.
Not at all. When I read that special, I took away "ok, so as a kid she had severe anger issues. She's gonna be even more of a problem as an adult."

Did you get a different interpretation from that special? She came across as a horrible brat the whole time to me.
That Special showed Vegito was a bad Dad and he was Bra's biggest problem. When Gohan shows up he showes if your patient and bring her up right she has potential.

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Post by JulieYBM » Mon May 11, 2020 9:24 pm

I'm about seven years behind on this comic but just reading the last few pages posted here and I have to wonder if Salagir isn't just brilliantly writing a form of pornography and parody. It's just so perverse.
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Post by Kanassa » Mon May 11, 2020 11:46 pm

JulieYBM wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:24 pm I'm about seven years behind on this comic but just reading the last few pages posted here and I have to wonder if Salagir isn't just brilliantly writing a form of pornography and parody. It's just so perverse.
I mean... The last few pages were drawn by a hentai artist :D
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TobyS » Tue May 12, 2020 7:53 am

miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 5:02 pm
Brikikoz wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:22 pm
Fionordequester wrote: Sun May 10, 2020 11:22 pm

You don't think you're misremembering just a little?

"Bra's Little Problem" is a pretty cutesy way of putting it, even if what you're saying is technically true.
Not at all. When I read that special, I took away "ok, so as a kid she had severe anger issues. She's gonna be even more of a problem as an adult."

Did you get a different interpretation from that special? She came across as a horrible brat the whole time to me.
That Special showed Vegito was a bad Dad and he was Bra's biggest problem. When Gohan shows up he showes if your patient and bring her up right she has potential.
Well it just makes out Gohan to be a failure. Not only did he fail he wasn't aware that he had.

I'd rather he never knew how bad it was as he was busy with his kid and didn't visit Vegito much cuz he's a dick.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Tue May 12, 2020 2:40 pm

Kanassa wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 11:46 pm
JulieYBM wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 9:24 pm I'm about seven years behind on this comic but just reading the last few pages posted here and I have to wonder if Salagir isn't just brilliantly writing a form of pornography and parody. It's just so perverse.
I mean... The last few pages were drawn by a hentai artist :D
FSDB only drew the recent mini comic page

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue May 12, 2020 3:11 pm

TobyS wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 7:53 am
miguelnuva1 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 5:02 pm
Brikikoz wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:22 pm

Not at all. When I read that special, I took away "ok, so as a kid she had severe anger issues. She's gonna be even more of a problem as an adult."

Did you get a different interpretation from that special? She came across as a horrible brat the whole time to me.
That Special showed Vegito was a bad Dad and he was Bra's biggest problem. When Gohan shows up he showes if your patient and bring her up right she has potential.
Well it just makes out Gohan to be a failure. Not only did he fail he wasn't aware that he had.

I'd rather he never knew how bad it was as he was busy with his kid and didn't visit Vegito much cuz he's a dick.
Gohan is Bra's brother not her parent. He has a job and a family of his own ultimately what happens with Bra falls on Vegito and Bulma.

Vegito has been repeatedly shown to act like an all powerful man child and that is what Bra has seen and observed. Bra acts just like someone would with an all powerful Dad who has passed his gifts on to her and then never told her how to properly use said gifts, Monkey see, Monkey do.

I don't think we're ever shown how Much Bulma spends with her but we are shown Vegito takes her nearly everywhere in the specials and we know he wanted to put her and Pan kn the roast, he doesn't see Bra as a child he sees her as a sparring partner and a successor.

Both of these characters could have had a good growing storyline here and I don't blame Bra for acting the way she does. She was a little girl who only got Dad's attention when she acted in this way and this is how Vegito brought her up.

It would be fan service to high hell but I would love for Gogeta to explain to her how she acts and why it's wrong. If Vegito is the worst of Goku and Vegeta then Gogeta should be the best.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Tai Lung » Tue May 12, 2020 3:22 pm

bra really had everything including love and understanding in family and friends despite being a half sister there is no sense that she has become evil because there is nothing that has affected her so much.
even with trunks of the future it would make sense for all the deficiencies that he had to live

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Tue May 12, 2020 4:07 pm

Tai Lung wrote: Tue May 12, 2020 3:22 pm bra really had everything including love and understanding in family and friends despite being a half sister there is no sense that she has become evil because there is nothing that has affected her so much.
even with trunks of the future it would make sense for all the deficiencies that he had to live
Bra's number one influence is her Dad, he praises her for acting the way she acts. She's not evil before the majin curse no, but the rest of her attitude is Vegito's fault.

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