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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Kanassa » Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:58 pm

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One thing Multiverse has done well is making King Kold into an interesting threat.

Toriyama made a mistake in making him a Worf-affect one-shot just to show how cool Trunks is.
Define 'interesting', so far he's just been Frieza, but bigger.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Brikikoz » Wed Oct 16, 2019 3:46 pm

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This chapter has been dreadful so far. The coloring just makes the already unpleasant character models look like plastic and the action is really bad, even for DBM standards.
Unfortunately, like 99% of fanmangas, a lot of the shots are traced so they seem slightly off-model.

Generally speaking DBM doesn't trace when it's Asura or artists doing their own style in specials, but sometimes a few sneak by when they try to emulate Toriyama.
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Good art of Cold there, they got the coloring on point this time.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by TobyS » Sun Oct 20, 2019 6:16 am

No one else is really relavent power wise unless he wounds Cold down to the point they can jump in.

So I really don't see how they can win if Cold transforms...

Maybe it's some full power warp kamehamha or something taking him off guard... Maybe he bfr's cold to another planet and trains more for cold....

Final cold was 16 level but that was Ginyu cold after implied training.

Not really sure how they will end this...
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Noah » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:00 pm

You know the concept of King Cold being able to transform is cool and all, but when we remember that he didn't do it in the original it makes all really stupid.

I don't remember if Daizenshuu or any official guide has ever made a statement about Cold having transformations, if that so... Why he wasted time supposing that Trunks's power origin was from his sword?

For me his existence is a mistake, Freeza don't need to have a dad, we could have Trunks defeating him all good without Cold, that won't change a damn thing.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by ZeroNeonix » Wed Oct 23, 2019 1:29 pm

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You know the concept of King Cold being able to transform is cool and all, but when we remember that he didn't do it in the original it makes all really stupid.

I don't remember if Daizenshuu or any official guide has ever made a statement about Cold having transformations, if that so... Why he wasted time supposing that Trunks's power origin was from his sword?

For me his existence is a mistake, Freeza don't need to have a dad, we could have Trunks defeating him all good without Cold, that won't change a damn thing.
Trunks wouldn't have allowed Cold to transform. He's not as stupid as his dad. He allowed Cold to borrow his sword, but only to prove how big the gap between them was. I imagine if Cold attempted to transform, Trunks would have sliced him in two rather than wait and give him a chance.

As for whether or not Cold could transform, remember that Frieza preferred to use his weaker forms because the higher forms were too strong to keep in check for daily use. Nowadays, after training, he prefers his Final Form because he learned how to control it. Cold likely used his Second Form by default for similar reasons. It was strong enough for most situations, and more easy to control than his later forms. It is reasonable to assume that he and his son would have similar transformative abilities, especially now that we have Frost in the picture.

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Post by OhHiRenan » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:12 pm

In a post-Dragon Ball Super world, I think we can safely assume that King Cold was "always" in his second form.

But I just struggle to believe that was Toriyama's intent. We know so little about Cold, and transformations weren't as common place yet, so I think it's safe to assume that Freeza's second form deliberately modeled after King Cold. RoF basically confirmed that Freeza can design his own forms, after all.

Then again, the very next arc would show Frost in three of Freeza's signature form, so whatever. It's difficult to tell what the logic is behind some decisions in Dragon Ball.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by ZeroNeonix » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:29 pm

OhHiRenan wrote:
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In a post-Dragon Ball Super world, I think we can safely assume that King Cold was "always" in his second form.

But I just struggle to believe that was Toriyama's intent. We know so little about Cold, and transformations weren't as common place yet, so I think it's safe to assume that Freeza's second form deliberately modeled after King Cold. RoF basically confirmed that Freeza can design his own forms, after all.

Then again, the very next arc would show Frost in three of Freeza's signature form, so whatever. It's difficult to tell what the logic is behind some decisions in Dragon Ball.
Until some official answer comes, which at this point seems highly unlikely, I assume that everyone in Frieza's race has the same transformations. While I like the idea of Golden Frieza being consciously modeled after Goku's Super Saiyan form, I will not be surprised if Frost got Golden form (assuming he comes back).

Of course, the Frieza race characters in Heroes and Xenoverse don't have five transformations, but just one form plus Golden form. In the case of Xenoverse, at least, this is likely because it was easier to do than give every CaC every single form. Perhaps Frieza's family is special, and Frost just happens to be an alternate dimension Frieza with the same powers, but I feel like that's just a convenient excuse for the games.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Dbzfan94 » Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:32 pm

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OhHiRenan wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2019 2:12 pm
In a post-Dragon Ball Super world, I think we can safely assume that King Cold was "always" in his second form.

But I just struggle to believe that was Toriyama's intent. We know so little about Cold, and transformations weren't as common place yet, so I think it's safe to assume that Freeza's second form deliberately modeled after King Cold. RoF basically confirmed that Freeza can design his own forms, after all.

Then again, the very next arc would show Frost in three of Freeza's signature form, so whatever. It's difficult to tell what the logic is behind some decisions in Dragon Ball.
Until some official answer comes, which at this point seems highly unlikely, I assume that everyone in Frieza's race has the same transformations. While I like the idea of Golden Frieza being consciously modeled after Goku's Super Saiyan form, I will not be surprised if Frost got Golden form (assuming he comes back).

Of course, the Frieza race characters in Heroes and Xenoverse don't have five transformations, but just one form plus Golden form. In the case of Xenoverse, at least, this is likely because it was easier to do than give every CaC every single form. Perhaps Frieza's family is special, and Frost just happens to be an alternate dimension Frieza with the same powers, but I feel like that's just a convenient excuse for the games.
instead of Frost getting golden, he'll get blue. and then his 6th form with be Blue evolution. :lol:

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Post by coola » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:02 pm

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Gohan is drawn so ugly in this special..rest characters look ok (Except maybe Cold in his current form, his face expressions and noises make me think he is guest character from 18+ hentai...)
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:17 pm

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(Except maybe Cold in his current form, his face expressions and noises make me think he is guest character from 18+ hentai...)
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Post by supersaiyanZero » Sun Oct 27, 2019 4:34 pm

I love this special.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Brikikoz » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:57 pm

Vegeta is semi-bluffing to psyche out Cold.

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:14 pm

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by FoolsGil » Sun Oct 27, 2019 8:51 pm

Hmm...Vegeta probably could have flown back to Capsule Corp, get onto one of the space pods, and gtfo. Kold can't sense energy, and unlike Freeza he wouldn't have a hard on for Vegeta so unless Vegeta catches his eye, I doubt Kold would notice.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Jackalope89 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:50 pm

Meh.

Its literally the Goku/Vegeta fight in the Saiyan Saga. Just giving Cold all the dominant scenes.

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