Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by thomas1up » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:42 pm

genjosanzo8 wrote: -snip-
Kei has shared various bits and pieces of the broadcast audio (episode 95 in it's entirety, bits and pieces elsewhere) when he has no real obligation to. If I'm correct in saying copyright laws in Japan are a lot stricter meaning sharing the entire series would be a lot more dangerous. It is also illegal and thus can not be discussed here. All we can do is hope that FUNi are able to obtain the tapes and given permission by Toei to use them in some future release.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by clutchins » Sun Mar 06, 2016 4:12 pm

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The Original Japanese Broadcast audio that Kei and others have was sourced from a few private collectors, some of whom are anonymous. Kei either plans to or has already sent the entire run to Christopher Sabat, who has gone on record as being very interested in this audio. The obvious implication here is that he will someday use this audio in a future release of the show in some sort of "perfect" release. All of us here who have read the threads and watched the videos on Youtube want the same thing as you, myself included. It is important that we remain patient and respectful while we await further developments. Remember, good things come to those who wait.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by genjosanzo8 » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:05 pm

:eh:
clutchins wrote:@genjosanzo8
The Original Japanese Broadcast audio that Kei and others have was sourced from a few private collectors, some of whom are anonymous. Kei either plans to or has already sent the entire run to Christopher Sabat, who has gone on record as being very interested in this audio. The obvious implication here is that he will someday use this audio in a future release of the show in some sort of "perfect" release. All of us here who have read the threads and watched the videos on Youtube want the same thing as you, myself included. It is important that we remain patient and respectful while we await further developments. Remember, good things come to those who wait.
waiting is not a problem if official release will realy exist....all i was asking is news because it was 4 5 years that this broadcast audio was show by kei but nothing is released

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by TheBalishChannel » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:25 pm

genjosanzo8 wrote: :eh:
waiting is not a problem if official release will realy exist....all i was asking is news because it was 4 5 years that this broadcast audio was show by kei but nothing is released
The problem is that you only found out about the proposed transaction a few days ago, from what it seems like, and then you went ahead and revived a 7-year-old thread just to ask a question that has more-or-less already been answered. You're being completely ignorant and immature about it. I'd suggest that you wait patiently instead of trying to pester people for a confirmation.

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Danfun64 » Sun Mar 06, 2016 7:57 pm

I hate to say this, but in my opinion, there are only three circumstances where the Original Broadcast Audio would receive an official release, and none of them are likely:

1. A Blu-Ray Remaster of first-gen footage of the entirety of DB, DBZ, and DBGT (and, although mostly irrelevant, of the movies and specials as well). This release would have at least just as much care as the Dragon Boxes got, maybe even more. Of course, this is most likely not going to happen for decades, if at all, partially because of the existence of Kai, partially because of costs, and partially because Toei thinks the Dragon Boxes are "good enough" for said decades.

2. The audio and only the audio is released through a set of CDs...which seems to only be beneficial to those willing to skirt copyright law to synchronize everything themselves.

3. Other companies like Fuimation, Fuze, and the AB Groupe get to use the audio for their releases. While sound quality might improve, the video will still be inferior to an HD remaster of first gen materials (I.E. option 1.). That being said, such releases might still be gorgeous (the cancelled Level sets anyone?), even if not perfect. Of course, thanks to Kai and Funi already releasing the DBZ in an HD format multiple times (even if cancelled, the Level sets, DVRed, the Season Sets, or abridged and pre-remastered by someone else, Kai), this is also unlikely.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Puto » Sun Mar 06, 2016 9:34 pm

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Iberian_Saiyan wrote:It's very unlikely for Funimation to publish because it would mean a foreign company would have a superior release than Toei's and Toei wouldn't allow that.
Not strictly true. Funimation's Kai DVDs were superior to the TOEI version, so it can happen.
Picture quality wise it was a bit inferior to the Japanese Toei home release and by the fourth part that was the end of the road for the original broadcast music so please explain how Funi's Kai version was better. The aspect ratio on the Japanese DVDs (widescreen) was a plus and wish Funi would have used that too.
The video on the Japanese DVDs for Kai looked utterly awful, independently of aspect ratio issues. If you really want a widescreen release of Kai, you're better off going with the French DVDs or Blu-rays.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:12 pm

Do the French releases have the same selective crop as the Japanese DVDs?

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:50 pm

Problem with the French Kai DVDs is that they didn't feature the original Kai music as they were released after the Yamamoto scandal so they were stuck with the replacement.

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by MarcFBR » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:50 am

Iberian_Saiyan wrote:Problem with the French Kai DVDs is that they didn't feature the original Kai music as they were released after the Yamamoto scandal so they were stuck with the replacement.
And yet the video quality of the Japanese version is still subpar.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by genjosanzo8 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:54 am

i just hear all and his opposite so knowing the truth only kei can tell....in seven years if funi or toei trully wanted to release them it will be done today .....the seasons sets could have these audio but ....it s not immaturity but kei dont speack anymore about broadcast audio...it tends to proove that it will not be release....he is not selfish it is sure about what i ve seen and i tell until the beginning but if he is afraid to release because of the japanese law he just have to send at other who share for him for exemple the only reason why i have re open these topic is to have news or not having hope if it stay in private hands

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by sangofe » Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:15 am

MarcFBR wrote:
Iberian_Saiyan wrote:Problem with the French Kai DVDs is that they didn't feature the original Kai music as they were released after the Yamamoto scandal so they were stuck with the replacement.
And yet the video quality of the Japanese version is still subpar.
The french release still the best video quality there is of Buu Kai, though.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Iberian_Saiyan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 8:21 am

MarcFBR wrote:
Iberian_Saiyan wrote:Problem with the French Kai DVDs is that they didn't feature the original Kai music as they were released after the Yamamoto scandal so they were stuck with the replacement.
And yet the video quality of the Japanese version is still subpar.
Of the DVDs. The Blu-rays are still superior though and let's not forget both of the home releases have Japanese title credits whilst foreign are translated.

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:36 am

Why is this so important anyway? It's not like a current one is unlistenable garbage. It's not the end of the world.

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by genjosanzo8 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:58 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:Why is this so important anyway? It's not like a current one is unlistenable garbage. It's not the end of the world.
because a true fan want the better.
it make me thinking about the reason why levels sets so wonderful was canceled to obtain a crappy widescreen crop release with dnr that destroy all.
Like i said if these tape never be release the better was to doesn't talk about it.
kei has talking about an official release or sharing his tape in early posts.
The problem is that he gave hope to all other and today search the better and then it will be very several years, levels sets was out without broadcast audio , seasons sets too (if kei give it to them they don't use) and today kei don't read any private message (he tell it on his profile) and don't take time to talk about the project.

i ' d rather like if he tell to other that the broadcast audio he have collect from other will remain private for him even if it will be the worst thing happening than tell nothing and let people hope for nothing. It doesn't exist worst thing to let other hope a things if you know that it will never be, thats why i re-open this topic.
a good production company like toei or funi don't need 5 or 7 years to remaster audio and release them.

release these audio without video like he did for the 95 can be a dolution and if kei fear the japanese law it just have to give to one other using thing like vpn and the other will release them.
I think toei doesn't want to give people good quality because using these tapes will cost a remaster of them.
i doubt toei will do it thinking that person like kuririn fan doesn't care to have a bad mono when a better sound exist.
funimation could use it but theirs release was without these audio.....

it cost nothing to clarify once for all things for other . if an official release will really exist nothing care about when as long as the kei project have really begun it could be great to tell other rather than just ignore other and let them hope for nothing.

kei the last time i heard thing about it doesn't have all dragon ball audio, will he be happy if the only one person who have them in the world do the same thing as him?
i don't think so.
I just search an answer not to stole or rob his precious tape
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Ajay » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:03 pm

Do...... you....... need.....to......... type....... like....... this.......?.....

It's obvious English isn't your first language, and that's absolutely fine, but basic things like periods and commas carry across into many languages. Please use them. It's very difficult to understand your posts right now.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by genjosanzo8 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:18 pm

Ajay wrote:Do...... you....... need.....to......... type....... like....... this.......?.....

It's obvious English isn't your first language, and that's absolutely fine, but basic things like periods and commas carry across into many languages. Please use them. It's very difficult to understand your posts right now.
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:19 pm

So i'm not a "true" fan, because i don't a fuck about that like you do?

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Ajay » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:22 pm

genjosanzo8 wrote:i have correct like i can
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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by genjosanzo8 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:30 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:So i'm not a "true" fan, because i don't a fuck about that like you do?
a true fan care about what he see or what he hear about what he love.
it's my true fan definition. so as for me i will said not...but if you tell you are a true fan it's your opinion and i will respect it
It's like if you love abusing DNR or crop when it don't have to been (cf the remaster of serie like buffy which is very very criticized for the dnr, the random crop etc...)

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Re: Better Sound Quality on Original Run of DBZ in Japan

Post by Kuririn Fan » Mon Mar 07, 2016 12:36 pm

Cool, so i'm not a fan. You learn something new everyday. Thanks, man.

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