I'm pretty sure we're told that he's Beerus' attendant. He's basically Super Popo.UpFromTheSkies wrote:We're never told what he is.Nex Carnifex wrote:what is he then, god of beerus?Friezacooler wrote:Whis is not a god of destruction, there should be a canon movie of Goku meeting Grand kai for training before kicking some major ass in the next series, Toribot would own the other 12 gods unless Grand kai and Goku fusion .
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You should make an unsuspecting God of Destruction, around the size of Gregory or Oolong, and have a very large beast or dragon accompany him.
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That doesn't tell us what he is, though. He could be a God, a magical being, a super powerful alien, ect.Kamiccolo9 wrote: I'm pretty sure we're told that he's Beerus' attendant. He's basically Super Popo.
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It might also be interesting to have a God of Destruction that's not anthropomorphic at all, and have it look like an ordinary dog, or some other animal. I'm not sure how that would look in a battle, but it would be interesting, and no one would suspect him. That seems like something Toriyama would do.
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No, it's that chicken guy from the Budokai who did a looooot of training and became a Hakaishin.goku the krump dancer wrote:So is the guy in the chicken mask SSJ4 Vegeta?
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Here Kamiccolo, a larger image of the purple one.
The beard, upper eyes, and horns are very ram/goat like so it seems you got your goat after all.
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Okay, I can see it now. Thanks pal!KentalSSJ6 wrote:Here Kamiccolo, a larger image of the purple one.
The beard, upper eyes, and horns are very ram/goat like so it seems you got your goat after all.Spoiler:
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The Go-to Fanart Guy strikes again.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Okay, I can see it now. Thanks pal!KentalSSJ6 wrote:Here Kamiccolo, a larger image of the purple one.
The beard, upper eyes, and horns are very ram/goat like so it seems you got your goat after all.Spoiler:
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They look way too competent. Look how Beers looks silly and non threatening. They don't quite fit with him.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Spoiler:
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Agreed. Toriyama likes to make his villains look unsuspecting, and usually the weakest looking is the strongest. Fans never seem to catch onto that when they make fan art/fan fiction.Marco Polo wrote:They look way too competent. Look how Beers looks silly and non threatening. They don't quite fit with him.
They actually look like guys that would show up at the Tenkaichi/Anyoichi Budokai's and be defeated quickly in one fight.
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I like their designs. They look and feel like characters that would exist in the DB universe unlike the stuff in DBA.
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I agree with this part, at least. Not a big fan of those designs.They actually look like guys that would show up at the Tenkaichi/Anyoichi Budokai's and be defeated quickly in one fight.
Maybe at least one of the gods should be completely eldritch, or just flat-out weird? Like that Green Lantern who also happens to be a planet. One should at least be non-humanoid.
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It won't surprise me if Beers is a low tier compare to the other gods in Universe 7. I already put Beers above SSj4 level and I bet that the top tier gods could make SSj4 Gogeta look like a ant.
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^ nothing but opinion.
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Super Saiyan God Goku is stated to be Goku's strongest form (in a promo of the DBZ: Battle of Z video game), which could be interpreted as SSGod > SS4, and even SSGod Goku > SS4 Gogeta, since SS4 Gogeta is technically a form of Goku.Friezacooler wrote:^ nothing but opinion.
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There are no GT characters in battle of Z and there is no mention of GT characters in battle of gods the primary source so nothing but opinion indeed.
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Freeza didn't look unsuspecting, neither did Cell or Super Buu, Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo Jr, Nappa, Vegeta, Jeice, Recoome, Baata, Captain Ginyu, Dodoria, Zarbon, Tambourine, Cymbal and many more.UpFromTheSkies wrote:Agreed. Toriyama likes to make his villains look unsuspecting, and usually the weakest looking is the strongest. Fans never seem to catch onto that when they make fan art/fan fiction.Marco Polo wrote:They look way too competent. Look how Beers looks silly and non threatening. They don't quite fit with him.
They actually look like guys that would show up at the Tenkaichi/Anyoichi Budokai's and be defeated quickly in one fight.
The unsuspecting-looking villains are much more rare, and the weakest looking isn't usually the strongest.
An example of this would be Guldo actually being the weakest, as well as Kid Buu, Buffed up Cell being weaker than SPC.
Whis, who is stronger than Beers looks weaker, but is stronger.
Freeza in his first form did't look weaker than the rest either.
This is simply not as clear as you make it be.
Sure, Toriyama likes to occasionally make a stronger villain less intimidating in his looks, but this isn't by any means the standard.
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Toriyama does like to make the weak looking characters stronger, he's even mentioned it in interviews. Examples would be General Blue, Karin, Popo, Kami, Master Roshi, Arale, Grandpa Gohan, Vegeta (he looked much weaker than Nappa), baby Gohan, Freeza (His henchman looked more intimidating), fat Majin Buu, kid Goten and Trunks, Kaioshin (Kibit looked like he was the strong one), Kaio-sama, 17, 18, 19, 20, ectGodo wrote:Freeza didn't look unsuspecting, neither did Cell or Super Buu, Tao Pai Pai, Piccolo Daimao, Piccolo Jr, Nappa, Vegeta, Jeice, Recoome, Baata, Captain Ginyu, Dodoria, Zarbon, Tambourine, Cymbal and many more.UpFromTheSkies wrote:Agreed. Toriyama likes to make his villains look unsuspecting, and usually the weakest looking is the strongest. Fans never seem to catch onto that when they make fan art/fan fiction.Marco Polo wrote:They look way too competent. Look how Beers looks silly and non threatening. They don't quite fit with him.
They actually look like guys that would show up at the Tenkaichi/Anyoichi Budokai's and be defeated quickly in one fight.
The unsuspecting-looking villains are much more rare, and the weakest looking isn't usually the strongest.
An example of this would be Guldo actually being the weakest, as well as Kid Buu, Buffed up Cell being weaker than SPC.
Whis, who is stronger than Beers looks weaker, but is stronger.
Freeza in his first form did't look weaker than the rest either.
This is simply not as clear as you make it be.
Sure, Toriyama likes to occasionally make a stronger villain less intimidating in his looks, but this isn't by any means the standard.
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Yes, as I said, not every villain is weak-looking. It is not like every villain is weak looking as you said earlier.UpFromTheSkies wrote: Toriyama does like to make the weak looking characters stronger, he's even mentioned it in interviews. Examples would be General Blue, Karin, Popo, Kami, Master Roshi, Arale, Grandpa Gohan, Vegeta (he looked much weaker than Nappa), baby Gohan, Freeza (His henchman looked more intimidating), fat Majin Buu, kid Goten and Trunks, Kaioshin (Kibit looked like he was the strong one), Kaio-sama, 17, 18, 19, 20, ect
Regarding the heroes, having them weak looking is pretty much standard in shonen? At least there are a lot of manga having that.
We have enough strong looking villains to disregard that villains have to look weak as a rule, which was the thing I objected against in the first place.
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Every main villian in Z started out looking weak, or much weaker than others they were with.Godo wrote:Yes, as I said, not every villain is weak-looking. It is not like every villain is weak looking as you said earlier.UpFromTheSkies wrote: Toriyama does like to make the weak looking characters stronger, he's even mentioned it in interviews. Examples would be General Blue, Karin, Popo, Kami, Master Roshi, Arale, Grandpa Gohan, Vegeta (he looked much weaker than Nappa), baby Gohan, Freeza (His henchman looked more intimidating), fat Majin Buu, kid Goten and Trunks, Kaioshin (Kibit looked like he was the strong one), Kaio-sama, 17, 18, 19, 20, ect
Regarding the heroes, having them weak looking is pretty much standard in shonen? At least there are a lot of manga having that.
We have enough strong looking villains to disregard that villains have to look weak as a rule, which was the thing I objected against in the first place.
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