What phrases/opinions/things bring out your irate fanboy?

[Mystic Tien]

I agree about the Krillin part. I think TFS is to blame for that, they made that popular with their owned count and now every "filthy casual" thinks he's funny when he says some "krillin is useless and always gets owned" joke.

Yamcha got it the worst

Not to be rude or anything but he kinda deserves it. His only win was from original Dragon Ball against Invisible Man with the help of Bulma's boobs.

Well, if he deserves it, then some other people deserve it even more. Like Bardock for example. Who important he defeated once again? There are also non-fighters, or not exactly strong fighters, like Bulma, Chi-Chi and Videl. Heck, Future Trunks didn't defeat anyone besides King Cold and Frieza in the present timeline (especially the one who was killed in future by Cell, and never had a chance to defeat Androids with his own strength). Goten and Trunks (both separate and while being in fusion) didn't defeat anyone particularly strong. They didn't defeat 18, they lost to Buu. And that is pretty much it. Some of them are not even humans, yet they don't get overhated, and Yamcha does. Speaking of Krillin, who exactly did he defeat besides Chiaotzu? He lost to Roshi, never defeated Tien and Yamcha, lost to General Blue, lost to Nappa, and pretty much anyone else. The only others (besides random fodders who Yamcha also beat) persons who he defeated besides Chiaotzu, which I may remember, are Saibamen. And they were also fodders in the Saiyan Saga. So doesn't quite sound as a worth defeat for me. Well, there is always Bacterian of course. Speaking of Roshi himself. He won against Werewolf guy, Yamcha, Goku and Krillin. He lost (or gave up) against anyone else. Mutaito lost to Piccolo Daimao, and that's all. Chiaotzu never won a single (important) fight in the series. Yajirobe only killed Cymbal. Vegeta lost so many times, and didn't defeat a single major villain. Lunch didn't defeat anyone. Kaioshin... Well, don't think I need to say anything here. Kaio never even fought, the same for all other Kaios and Dai Kaio. Misters Satan... Well, yeah, obvious. Karin? No one. Dende? No one. Android 16? No one. Yet again, the only one who is overhated so much is Yamcha. Makes no sense for me.

[rereboy]

I agree about the Krillin part. I think TFS is to blame for that, they made that popular with their owned count and now every "filthy casual" thinks he's funny when he says some "krillin is useless and always gets owned" joke.

Yamcha got it the worst

Not to be rude or anything but he kinda deserves it. His only win was from original Dragon Ball against Invisible Man with the help of Bulma's boobs.

Well, if he deserves it, then some other people deserve it even more. Like Bardock for example. Who important he defeated once again? There are also non-fighters, or not exactly strong fighters, like Bulma, Chi-Chi and Videl. Heck, Future Trunks didn't defeat anyone besides King Cold and Freeza in the present timeline (especially the one who was killed in future by Cell, and never had a chance to defeat Androids with his own strength). Goten and Trunks (both separate and while being in fusion) didn't defeat anyone particularly strong. They didn't defeat 18, they lost to Buu. And that is pretty much it. Some of them are not even humans, yet they don't get overhated, and Yamcha does. Speaking of Krillin, who exactly did he defeat besides Chiaotzu? He lost to Roshi, never defeated Tenshinhan and Yamcha, lost to General Blue, lost to Nappa, and pretty much anyone else. The only others (besides random fodders who Yamcha also beat) persons who he defeated besides Chiaotzu, which I may remember, are Saibamen. And they were also fodders in the Saiyan Saga. So doesn't quite sound as a worth defeat for me. Well, there is always Bacterian of course. Speaking of Roshi himself. He won against Werewolf guy, Yamcha, Goku and Krillin. He lost (or gave up) against anyone else. Mutaito lost to Piccolo Daimao, and that's all. Chiaotzu never won a single (important) fight in the series. Yajirobe only killed Cymbal. Vegeta lost so many times, and didn't defeat a single major villain. Lunch didn't defeat anyone. Kaioshin... Well, don't think I need to say anything here. Kaio never even fought, the same for all other Kaios and Dai Kaio. Misters Satan... Well, yeah, obvious. Karin? No one. Dende? No one. Android 16? No one. Yet again, the only one who is overhated so much is Yamcha. Makes no sense for me.

Bardock's character is treated seriously in the series. Is not about power. Tenshinhan isn't much better than Yamcha in terms of power but the series actually treats Tenshinhan seriously, while it hardly does regarding Yamcha.

[fadeddreams5]

Krillin has always been treated as a joke. Remember when everyone was charging in against Dr. Wheelo, and Krillin joined, only to be swept aside? Or the time he went in against an old Lord Slug, only to be one-shotted? Or when he got peed on by Gohan in the Garlic Jr saga? Or how he froze in comedic fear at the sight of Dr. Gero's decapitated head and 17 pointing at him to come over. This is what started the "Krillin is weak" trend, not TFS. TFS merely played along with that. I don't understand how people can't see that. Fans have been making Krillin jokes way before that parody was a thing.

Yamcha was exactly the same in DB. The guy got headbutted in the nuts, for Kami's sake.

[Kuririn Fan]

Krillin has always been treated as a joke. Remember when everyone was charging in against Dr. Wheelo, and Krillin joined, only to be swept aside? Or the time he went in against an old Lord Slug, only to be one-shotted? Or when he got peed on by Gohan in the Garlic Jr saga? Or how he froze in comedic fear at the sight of Dr. Gero's decapitated head and 17 pointing at him to come over. This is what started the "Krillin is weak" trend, not TFS. TFS merely played along with that. I don't understand how people can't see that.

Yamcha was exactly the same in DB. The guy got headbutted in the nuts, for Kami's sake.

All of those examples are movies and filler. Yamcha is treated like shit in canon material.

[Mystic Tien]

Bardock's character is treated seriously in the series. Is not about power. Tenshinhan isn't much better than Yamcha in terms of power but the series actually treats Tenshinhan seriously, while it hardly does regarding Yamcha.

That's because Tenshinhan has a technique which lets him hold off people much stronger than himself, and Yamcha doesn't, I personally think that Tien is stronger than Yamcha only because Yamcha stopped training, before that I deemed them as pretty equal, meaning being close, even if Tien had an edge. I still personally think that Tien should be stronger than Krillin, only because he always trains (while Krillin doesn't) and has Shin Kikoho, but the Word of God says otherwise, well, whatever.

By the way is it the reason why a lot of people hate and bash Gohan now, because no one treats him seriously in the new material? Heck... All of this started with Buu saga.

Besides Gotenks was also not treated seriously. Heck, a lot of people were not treated seriously in Buu saga, yet people only hate/dismiss Yamcha (and probably Krillin) that much)

[fadeddreams5]

Krillin has always been treated as a joke. Remember when everyone was charging in against Dr. Wheelo, and Krillin joined, only to be swept aside? Or the time he went in against an old Lord Slug, only to be one-shotted? Or when he got peed on by Gohan in the Garlic Jr saga? Or how he froze in comedic fear at the sight of Dr. Gero's decapitated head and 17 pointing at him to come over. This is what started the "Krillin is weak" trend, not TFS. TFS merely played along with that. I don't understand how people can't see that.

Yamcha was exactly the same in DB. The guy got headbutted in the nuts, for Kami's sake.

All of those examples are movies and filler. Yamcha is treated like shit in canon material.

Filler and movies are part of the franchise, and Krillin happens to be in them. Few casual fans have even read the manga. Hell, I haven't.

[Doctor.]

I always thought the "Kuririn is weak" thing was only shown once (in full-force, at least) in the manga, and that was when everyone was attacking #17 and #18 when Vegeta was defeated and he was too scared to move.

[Kuririn Fan]

I always thought the "Kuririn is weak" thing was only shown once (in full-force, at least) in the manga, and that was when everyone was attacking #17 and #18 when Vegeta was defeated and he was too scared to move.

He was just being smart, he knew they were no match for 17 and 18. Still got that kiss from 18,tho :p

[Doctor.]

I always thought the "Kuririn is weak" thing was only shown once (in full-force, at least) in the manga, and that was when everyone was attacking #17 and #18 when Vegeta was defeated and he was too scared to move.

He was just being smart, he knew they were no match for 17 and 18. Still got that kiss from 18,tho :p

He wasn't being smart. He'd be smart if he was trying to form some kind of strategy, like trying to use his Kienzan while they were distracted, or use the Tayoken to blind them and take his friends out of there. He was literally too scared to move, the art makes this clear.

[Kuririn Fan]

I always thought the "Kuririn is weak" thing was only shown once (in full-force, at least) in the manga, and that was when everyone was attacking #17 and #18 when Vegeta was defeated and he was too scared to move.

He was just being smart, he knew they were no match for 17 and 18. Still got that kiss from 18,tho :p

He wasn't being smart. He'd be smart if he was trying to form some kind of strategy, like trying to use his Kienzan while they were distracted, or use the Tayoken to blind them and take his friends out of there. He was literally too scared to move, the art makes this clear.

Ok, then he was being realistic. Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

[Sayo-chan]

Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

There's a number of villains that wouldn't be effective against. Cell, Boo and Janemba come to mind.

[Doctor.]

Ok, then he was being realistic. Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

The fact that Kuririn is, probably, the most realistic character out of the entire series (in a show where people fly and shoot laser beams), along with Bulma I guess, is what makes him so 'hated'. Everyone else is a certified "badass" and people can't stand that he isn't one too.

[fadeddreams5]

Ok, then he was being realistic. Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

The fact that Kuririn is, probably, the most realistic character out of the entire series (in a show where people fly and shoot laser beams), along with Bulma I guess, is what makes him so 'hated'. Everyone else is a certified "badass" and people can't stand that he isn't one too.

I would argue Gohan is too.

[Mystic Tien]

Ok, then he was being realistic. Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

The fact that Kuririn is, probably, the most realistic character out of the entire series (in a show where people fly and shoot laser beams), along with Bulma I guess, is what makes him so 'hated'. Everyone else is a certified "badass" and people can't stand that he isn't one too.

What about Bulma, Chi-Chi, Yajirobe, Chiaotzu? They are not badass.

[ekrolo2]

Ok, then he was being realistic. Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

The fact that Kuririn is, probably, the most realistic character out of the entire series (in a show where people fly and shoot laser beams), along with Bulma I guess, is what makes him so 'hated'. Everyone else is a certified "badass" and people can't stand that he isn't one too.

What about Bulma, Chi-Chi, Yajirobe, Chiaotzu? They are not badass.

They all get hated on or ignored except Bulma cause she is and I quote *clears throat* "Shes like totally hawt dude!".

[Sayo-chan]

That sounds like something Sabat's Yamcha would say.

[rereboy]

That's because Tenshinhan has a technique which lets him hold off people much stronger than himself, and Yamcha doesn't,

No, it isn't. There's plenty of manga volumes before the Cell arc and what I said about Yamcha and Tenshinhan is evident from their introduction onwards. And so is Krillin, btw, with his stunt of messing up his jump and all the subsequent shenanigans during Roshi's training and at the 21st tournament, during the red ribbon arc, in the fight with the vampire, etc.

[DBZAOTA482]

Ok, then he was being realistic. Also, taiyoken+kienzan is the most OP combo ever and Krillin would kill every villain and we sure can't have that, am i right?

The fact that Kuririn is, probably, the most realistic character out of the entire series (in a show where people fly and shoot laser beams), along with Bulma I guess, is what makes him so 'hated'. Everyone else is a certified "badass" and people can't stand that he isn't one too.

What about Bulma, Chi-Chi, Yajirobe, Chiaotzu? They are not badass.

Please, just stop...

[rereboy]

I always thought the "Kuririn is weak" thing was only shown once (in full-force, at least) in the manga, and that was when everyone was attacking #17 and #18 when Vegeta was defeated and he was too scared to move.

It has nothing to do with being strong as I've already stated. Krillin simply isn't treated as seriously as other characters. Think of his stunt of messing up his jump at Roshi's feet when he is introduced... all the subsequent shenanigans during Roshi's training... at the 21st tournament... during the red ribbon arc... in the fight with the vampire, etc. He is not as bad as Yamcha, but clearly there's plenty of scenes where this is evident. He then gets to shine, in the 23rd tournament and then at the Saiyan arc and in Namek and android arcs (still with some humorous moments) but it's still there.

[Mystic Tien]

No, it isn't. There's plenty of manga volumes before the Cell arc and what I said about Yamcha and Tenshinhan is evident from their introduction onwards. And so is Krillin, btw, with his stunt of messing up his jump and all the subsequent shenanigans during Roshi's training and at the 21st tournament, during the red ribbon arc, in the fight with the vampire, etc.

But what exactly could Tenshinhan do, if he didn't have Shin Kikoho? It was developed by him, but even before that, it was a pretty dangerous technique. Yamcha doesn't have that kind of technique, it may be argued that Krillin does, with him being able to cut Frieza's tail with Kienzan, while him being much weaker than Frieza, but Yamcha doesn't have a technique of this level.

Krillin defeated Chiaotzu though. And he was properly shown as Goku's rival, heck he even made a good match against Goku and Piccolo Jr.

Please, just stop...

What is wrong?