Things that grind your gears

[Soppa Saia People]

While I'm not a fan of the old Funimation dub of DBZ and how they altered Goku's personality, I don't see how Schemmel sounds like Superman in that dub. He doesn't sound anything like Tim Daly and George Newbern.

They mean how he sounds like a Super Man type character.

[Gonstead]

While I'm not a fan of the old Funimation dub of DBZ and how they altered Goku's personality, I don't see how Schemmel sounds like Superman in that dub. He doesn't sound anything like Tim Daly and George Newbern.

They mean how he sounds like a Super Man type character.

Like 8000, I still don't hear anything of that sort in Schemmel's Goku voice, even from the beginning.

Now, if you said that his lines in the dub sound like Superman, that would have more credence. There are times where I question if people are confusing the voice work and the script, somehow meshing the two together.

Want a real Superman Goku? Look no further than the Big Green dub.

[ABED]

Superman is a specific character when what I think is Goku comes off as a pure goody two shoes generic superhero. The problem is that the most notable and first superhero is Superman. He's the root of superheroes. So while Schemmel's DBZ Goku doesn't sound like the DCAU Superman, he does come off as a preachy golden age superhero.

[Gonstead]

Superman is a specific character when what I think is Goku comes off as a pure goody two shoes generic superhero. The problem is that the most notable and first superhero is Superman. He's the root of superheroes. So while Schemmel's DBZ Goku doesn't sound like the DCAU Superman, he does come off as a preachy golden age superhero.

Again though, Schemmel's Goku voice sounds like no particular incarnation of any Superman, or rather the character at all. The script is the main offender for that sort of thing.

[ABED]

Superman is a specific character when what I think is Goku comes off as a pure goody two shoes generic superhero. The problem is that the most notable and first superhero is Superman. He's the root of superheroes. So while Schemmel's DBZ Goku doesn't sound like the DCAU Superman, he does come off as a preachy golden age superhero.

Again though, Schemmel's Goku voice sounds like no particular incarnation of any Superman, or rather the character at all. The script is the main offender for that sort of thing.

I didn't say he did. I said he sounds like a generic superhero.

[emperior]

I really hate the lack of micro animation for hair in Super, and, even when there is, it's nowhere near as good as it was in DBZ...

[Dbzfan94]

I really hate the lack of micro animation for hair in Super, and, even when there is, it's nowhere near as good as it was in DBZ...

Do you mean just how plastic it looks and doesn't really 'flow'?

[emperior]

I really hate the lack of micro animation for hair in Super, and, even when there is, it's nowhere near as good as it was in DBZ...

Do you mean just how plastic it looks and doesn't really 'flow'?

Yes. I think it's even more obvious with SSJ hair, I don't remember seeing SSJ hair flow once in Super.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

While I'm not a fan of the old Funimation dub of DBZ and how they altered Goku's personality, I don't see how Schemmel sounds like Superman in that dub. He doesn't sound anything like Tim Daly and George Newbern.

It's nothing but a cheap, quick piece of McRhetoric to make complaints easier for regurgitation.

[HybridSaiyan]

I really hate the lack of micro animation for hair in Super, and, even when there is, it's nowhere near as good as it was in DBZ...

Do you mean just how plastic it looks and doesn't really 'flow'?

Yes. I think it's even more obvious with SSJ hair, I don't remember seeing SSJ hair flow once in Super.

The color palette for the SSJ Hair isn't very good either.

[HybridSaiyan]

Oh, and people who think Sean sucks In the Original dub are just kidding themselves. He wasn't bad at all and most of his screams, power ups are superier to his Kai performance.

Take these two scenes for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRysAo5pU0

There's clear strain in his voice from the heart virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E

In Kai, Sean doesn't show strain at all.

[Bansho64]

Oh, and people who think Sean sucks In the Original dub are just kidding themselves. He wasn't bad at all and most of his screams, power ups are superier to his Kai performance.

Take these two scenes for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRysAo5pU0

There's clear strain in his voice from the heart virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E

In Kai, Sean doesn't show strain at all.

No-one's kidding anything. Though, if you like it, more power to ya.

As for the example, while I do think that was good, I'll take the Kai one any day. I do find that Schemmel shows a bit of strain on the Z one, but I'll take those really deep and gritty screams from Kai over it. I disagree that he showed no strain. If anything, he showed way more strain in Kai. Those screams speak for themselves​, if you ask me.

If you really wanna pull an example of how his screams changed, then I'll pull one too.
This
Versus
This
They really do show his progress. That first one was really bad IMO.

[HybridSaiyan]

Oh, and people who think Sean sucks In the Original dub are just kidding themselves. He wasn't bad at all and most of his screams, power ups are superier to his Kai performance.

Take these two scenes for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRysAo5pU0

There's clear strain in his voice from the heart virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E

In Kai, Sean doesn't show strain at all.

No-one's kidding anything. Though, if you like it, more power to ya.

As for the example, while I do think that was good, I'll take the Kai one any day. I do find that Schemmel shows a bit of strain on the Z one, but I'll take those really deep and gritty screams from Kai over it. I disagree that he showed no strain. If anything, he showed way more strain in Kai. Those screams speak for themselves​, if you ask me.

If you really wanna pull an example of how his screams changed, then I'll pull one too.
This
Versus
This
They really do show his progress. That first one was really bad IMO.

Yeah, there's no question the Kai one blows the original out the window on the screaming but the original isn't THAT bad anyways. Seans voice is just...light instead of deep. The Ginyu Ost really mixes well with the scream however I guess that's just my nostalgia playing lmao.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Oh, and people who think Sean sucks In the Original dub are just kidding themselves. He wasn't bad at all and most of his screams, power ups are superior to his Kai performance.

Take these two scenes for instance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpRysAo5pU0

There's clear strain in his voice from the heart virus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E

In Kai, Sean doesn't show strain at all.

I don't think Schemmel's a very good Goku, regardless. However, keep in mind that even in Dragon Ball, screaming is not a difficult or impressive aspect of voice acting. Assuming you have any natural power to your voice, it's really just a matter of how long you can hold your breath. (Yes, I've tried. It's totally not weird)

[Bansho64]

I don't think Schemmel's a very good Goku, regardless. However, keep in mind that even in Dragon Ball, screaming is not a difficult or impressive aspect of voice acting. Assuming you have any natural power to your voice, it's really just a matter of how long you can hold your breath. (Yes, I've tried. It's totally not weird)

And yet it's surprising how a lot of these dubs of DB in different langauges really screwed up on that end. Of course, there were a lot of actors who could scream. But, in some of the most important moments, the screams could get really bad. Even some of the more faithful dubs really missed the mark at times

[Jinzoningen MULE]

And yet it's surprising how a lot of these dubs of DB in different langauges really screwed up on that end. Of course, there were a lot of actors who could scream. But, in some of the most important moments, the screams could get really bad. Even some of the more faithful dubs really missed the mark at times

That's just poor direction.

[8000 Saiyan]

And yet it's surprising how a lot of these dubs of DB in different langauges really screwed up on that end. Of course, there were a lot of actors who could scream. But, in some of the most important moments, the screams could get really bad. Even some of the more faithful dubs really missed the mark at times

That's just poor direction.

Or maybe the voice actors themselves can't scream that well.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

And yet it's surprising how a lot of these dubs of DB in different langauges really screwed up on that end. Of course, there were a lot of actors who could scream. But, in some of the most important moments, the screams could get really bad. Even some of the more faithful dubs really missed the mark at times

That's just poor direction.

Or maybe the voice actors themselves can't scream that well.

I doubt anyone could be so bad at yelling, but if that's the case, it's just poor casting.

[Bansho64]

Or maybe the voice actors themselves can't scream that well.

I doubt anyone could be so bad at yelling, but if that's the case, it's just poor casting.

It could honestly be either, or even both. Rene Garcia's (LATAM Vegeta) got a lot of good moments in that dub though. It's more of a rare occurrence more than anything. As for the Brazilian Tenshinhan, nearly every thing I've heard from him sounds pretty off on the screaming side. Like I said, it sounds pretty lackluster in those really important moments.

[8000 Saiyan]

Or maybe the voice actors themselves can't scream that well.

I doubt anyone could be so bad at yelling, but if that's the case, it's just poor casting.

It could honestly be either, or even both. Rene Garcia's (LATAM Vegeta) got a lot of good moments in that dub though. It's more of a rare occurrence more than anything. As for the Brazilian Tenshinhan, nearly every thing I've heard from him sounds pretty off on the screaming side. Like I said, it sounds pretty lackluster in those really important moments.

In this clip of the Brazilian Portuguese dub, their Buu is kind of lackluster as well when it comes to screaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTLizsfrr4c