Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
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Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Instead of blowing up the Earth, why don't they try to blow up the Sun? I assume in the Dragonball world, just like in real life, without a Sun everyone on Earth would die instantly.
So why did that never happen?
So why did that never happen?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Same reason they never blow up the Earth right away I suppose. The villain usually likes the challenge or wants to fight and humiliate Goku or whomever.
Or maybe an exploding sun would be too much to handle? But that's just guessing on my part.
Or maybe an exploding sun would be too much to handle? But that's just guessing on my part.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Cell was going too, villians before him are maybe unable too and villians after him (Buu, Beerus) are just in it for the the fights.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Lucifer tries to in DB Movie 2.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Blowing up the moon meant jack shit, so what's blowing up the sun gonna do? You think NOW they're gonna apply that line of logic now?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Maybe... They couldn't actually blow up the sun pre DBS? As they weren't strong enough to do so
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Or even better...why don't you try to CORRUPT the sun with your evil energy?
So far, only Merged Zamasu has thought of that.
So far, only Merged Zamasu has thought of that.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Hey! What kinda monsters you think they are! They care for other people living in the solar system..
Good old freeza, he always cared
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
You don't need a moon to sustain life. You need a sun.Kanassa wrote:Blowing up the moon meant jack shit, so what's blowing up the sun gonna do? You think NOW they're gonna apply that line of logic now?
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Do you mean Namek's core?ekrolo2 wrote:Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Because Goku's power doesn't come from the Sun.precita wrote:So why did that never happen?
I'm pretty sure that when and if the Sun obtains an important role, he'll be destroyed.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
That makes it sound like Goku's a primadona.Grimlock wrote:I'm pretty sure that when Sun obtains an important role, he'll be destroyed.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
There was an episode right after the Trunks arc where Bulma sends him underground to the Earth's core and he needs a suit to keep him alive down there. I assume a sun exploding would kill him if he needs protection against the Earth's core.ABED wrote:Do you mean Namek's core?ekrolo2 wrote:Wasn't the Earth's core dangerous to Goku? I can't imagine an exploding sun is something he could just shrug off.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
I've never seen Super.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Because the easiest, smartest route isn't usually taken in shonen.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Because... that's suicide? First of all, they'd need a blast to reach the sun. Now, I can't speak for Super, but I don't think that the villains before Boo (at least) could do that.
Even if so, the only villain who seemed willing to sacrifice himself was Cell -- even though he thought that his actual failsafe was fool-proof and it could be possible that he expected to return anyway. Other than that, no villain was suicidal. If you blow up the sun, it creates a black hole and everything in the solar system will be destroyed. Yeah, every villain except for Cell who had the bright idea to blow up the Earth was pretty okay doing so because they could breathe in space. If they blew up the sun, regardless of their space breathing ability, they'd be dead.
Even if so, the only villain who seemed willing to sacrifice himself was Cell -- even though he thought that his actual failsafe was fool-proof and it could be possible that he expected to return anyway. Other than that, no villain was suicidal. If you blow up the sun, it creates a black hole and everything in the solar system will be destroyed. Yeah, every villain except for Cell who had the bright idea to blow up the Earth was pretty okay doing so because they could breathe in space. If they blew up the sun, regardless of their space breathing ability, they'd be dead.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
Cell tried to blow up the sun after he came back with the zenkai but other that no villain has tried it because they weren't about that.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
I didn't say that, my point was that it's unlikely they' take in to account the effects of blowing up the sun when they never took into account the effects of losing the moon.ABED wrote:You don't need a moon to sustain life. You need a sun.Kanassa wrote:Blowing up the moon meant jack shit, so what's blowing up the sun gonna do? You think NOW they're gonna apply that line of logic now?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:
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Kanassa wrote:- FoolsGil, Out of Context, 2017FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back.
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Re: Why doesn't a villain ever try to blow up the sun?
I still don't see a big difference. Okay, you didn't say that, but the effect of blowing up the moon is competely different than blowing up a sun.Kanassa wrote:I didn't say that, my point was that it's unlikely they' take in to account the effects of blowing up the sun when they never took into account the effects of losing the moon.ABED wrote:You don't need a moon to sustain life. You need a sun.Kanassa wrote:Blowing up the moon meant jack shit, so what's blowing up the sun gonna do? You think NOW they're gonna apply that line of logic now?
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