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You just said why I compare MJ, who passed away due to cardiac arrest/homicide in 2009, to Vic.miguelnuva1 wrote:Asking you two questions is being a Jerk now. Earlier you asked not to be called an idoit and now here you have resorted to name calling.Young-Jah wrote:Why are you being a jerk to me.miguelnuva1 wrote:
Why are you comparing a dead man found innocent to Vic? Also if you a teenager why go to Michael Jackson?
Once again asking you two questions is being a Jerk and you who didn't want to be called an idoit is now name calling.Young-Jah wrote:You just said why I compare MJ, who passed away due to cardiac arrest/homicide in 2009, to Vic.miguelnuva1 wrote:Asking you two questions is being a Jerk now. Earlier you asked not to be called an idoit and now here you have resorted to name calling.Young-Jah wrote: Why are you being a jerk to me.
And said if I'm a teenager, why go to Michael Jackson.
Based on his signature I’m gonna take a shot in the dark he’s a big fan of Michael Jackson’s music. Hence why he went to Michael Jackson as an example.miguelnuva1 wrote:Once again aiming you two questions is being a Jerk and you who didn't want to be called an idoit is now name calling.Young-Jah wrote:You just said why I compare MJ, who passed away due to cardiac arrest/homicide in 2009, to Vic.miguelnuva1 wrote:
Asking you two questions is being a Jerk now. Earlier you asked not to be called an idoit and now here you have resorted to name calling.
And said if I'm a teenager, why go to Michael Jackson.
According to your profile you have been 3 when Michael Jackson was in trial so it was interesting to me a teenager would go that far back other using Bill Cosby for example which is a far better comparrison.
Why do you have to use my profile as an example, why Cosby, what is wrong with you man.miguelnuva1 wrote:Once again aiming you two questions is being a Jerk and you who didn't want to be called an idoit is now name calling.Young-Jah wrote:You just said why I compare MJ, who passed away due to cardiac arrest/homicide in 2009, to Vic.miguelnuva1 wrote:
Asking you two questions is being a Jerk now. Earlier you asked not to be called an idoit and now here you have resorted to name calling.
And said if I'm a teenager, why go to Michael Jackson.
According to your profile you have been 3 when Michael Jackson was in trial so it was interesting to me a teenager would go that far back other using Bill Cosby for example which is a far better comparrison.
No, I'm a huge fan of other music than Jackson.MasenkoHA wrote:Based on his signature I’m gonna take a shot in the dark he’s a big fan of Michael Jackson’s music. Hence why he went to Michael Jackson as an example.miguelnuva1 wrote:Once again aiming you two questions is being a Jerk and you who didn't want to be called an idoit is now name calling.Young-Jah wrote: You just said why I compare MJ, who passed away due to cardiac arrest/homicide in 2009, to Vic.
And said if I'm a teenager, why go to Michael Jackson.
According to your profile you have been 3 when Michael Jackson was in trial so it was interesting to me a teenager would go that far back other using Bill Cosby for example which is a far better comparrison.
I deleted my post about the SWATing. After talking with some people I found it was not true. I also found out that this person in question has some clinical issues. I’m looking into what help they might be able to get in response to this news.
In case anybody did not see what Sheehan originally tweeted, here they are:I’ll ask you one more thing. That is to not attack them for this if you know who they are. They need some help now and not more people piling on. Thank you.
Someone in the anime community who spoke up about the Vic had their door kicked in by a SWAT team this morning after someone made a fake 911 call. They said they stand with Vic on the call. This garbage person is on your team #StandWithVic people. #KickVic
Luckily the person who got their door kicked in was not hurt. The police apologized for the act and are helping to fix the door.
Now the Vic supporters are gonna think that they won and make it all about them...Shaddy wrote:That's actually impressive. The first time of any note of an actual lie to attack Vic's supporters and they go ahead and make it real. Fucking legendary.
Akira Toriyama wrote:If anyone. ANYONE AT TOEI! Makes a movie about old and weak major villains returning, or making recolored versions of Super Saiyan, I'ma come to yo company and evict you from doing Dragon Ball ever again! Only I do those things, because people love me, and they despise you....derp!
Marco Polo wrote:Goku Black is a fan of DBZ who hates Super and has taken the form of a younger Goku (thinner shape, softer hair) to avenge the original series by destroying the new.
*Sigh*....yup. That's just about the best way to sum this whole mess up. I mean...ugh...just....ugh....online hate-mobs, sexual harassment, fake accusations of SWAT attacks, angry tweets...these are a whole lot of things that damage one's faith in humanity. All in one place.Broly深蓝 wrote:This is all so surreal
Nah, they're probably going to say "that wasn't us that was someone on the kickvic side trying to make us look bad", which is of course going to seem awfully hypocritical while they parrot the "evidence-faking" facebook troll as proof that the victims are lying.EXBadguy wrote: Now the Vic supporters are gonna think that they won and make it all about them...
Yeah.TheBlackPaladin wrote:*Sigh*....yup. That's just about the best way to sum this whole mess up. I mean...ugh...just....ugh....online hate-mobs, sexual harassment, fake accusations of SWAT attacks, angry tweets...these are a whole lot of things that damage one's faith in humanity. All in one place.Broly深蓝 wrote:This is all so surreal
EDIT: As for the SWATing situation (which I never believed from the start), it's a perfect example of how false accusations are actually ridiculously easy to demonstrate.No joke that guy they’re defending is a fucking creep and you’re right they only do it because they value their personal entertainment over someone else’s hardship.
I have a distinct memory of a convention I attended in 2006 and that VA grabbed me from behind without any kind of consent. My mom and I were leaving the event and heading for the airport and all of a sudden arms are around my pre-teen waist coming from behind and his face is literally breathing into my ear. Like, idk if he thought he was taking a photo with a fan, which I guess I get on some level. But the manner that it happened was jarring and inappropriate, and if his first instinct was to grab a 14 year old stranger like that who made no indication of being a fan, I definitely fucking believe he’s capable of more.
Needless to say, we left on a kind of bittersweet note because of that. I tried really hard for years to spin it differently, like I didn’t know it was creepy as fuck, mostly because his fans are kinda rabid and a slight against him was apparently a slight against the series or something lol. That all being said it’s increasingly fucked up that we live in this culture that downplays and invalidates victims of unwanted touching, assault, etc. because that shit is real and McNugget is a slimeball.
It's just your interpretation again. but ok.Cursed Lemon wrote:No actually it's your post history but thanksSaintEvolution wrote:You saying I'm more preoccupied with one than the other is just an assumption of you.
Plenty of people need a foot up their ass.Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'm almost, almost more disgusted by the fact that someone would fake a SWAT thing than I am with the notion of people actually SWAT-ing over this. Almost. Either way, I'm quickly losing faith in humanity over both sides of the situation at this point (in regards to how far some fans are taking things, I mean).
Is this getting older? Is getting older losing faith in your own race? At 30, am I just going to turn into Red Foreman?
I misunderstood it, but I'm glad it's proven to be fake.Shaddy wrote:]I'm not sure if you misunderstood what it said or you're really trying to spread misinformation here. The person in question says the team was sent by someone on Mignogna's side in response to them defending the victims.
They're similar, but not quite. Mignogna will never in his lifetime ever dream of reaching the same fame as Michael Jackson did. The Michael Jackson case continues to this very day and age be the textbook example of media sensationalism and unsubstantiated rumor-mongering at its very worst. Lies taken as facts, an ever-changing narrative from accusers and prosecutors alike, and lest we forget, supposed "victims" who denied those rumors categorically (the man who first started to accuse Jackson of molesting his son, admitted he was lying to leech money off from him and he committed suicide one month following Jackson's death). That situation cost him jobs, including being the compositor of the OST of Sonic 3 and Knuckles, destroyed his life and contributed to his untimely demise. Even to this day, even after his death, people are still trying to ruin his legacy and mooch money off from his estate the worst way possible (see: Leaving Neverland).Young-Jah wrote:Is Vic Mignogna allegation even worst or similar to Michael Jackson 1993 trial and the 2005 trial.
OK, I get it now.Izanagi wrote:They're similar, but not quite. Mignogna will never in his lifetime ever dream of reaching the same fame as Michael Jackson did. The Michael Jackson case continues to this very day and age be the textbook example of media sensationalism and unsubstantiated rumor-mongering at its very worst. Lies taken as facts, an ever-changing narrative from accusers and prosecutors alike, and lest we forget, supposed "victims" who denied those rumors categorically (the man who first started to accuse Jackson of molesting his son, admitted he was lying to leech money off from him and he committed suicide one month following Jackson's death). That situation cost him jobs, including being the compositor of the OST of Sonic 3 and Knuckles, destroyed his life and contributed to his untimely demise. Even to this day, even after his death, people are still trying to ruin his legacy and mooch money off from his estate the worst way possible (see: Leaving Neverland).Young-Jah wrote:Is Vic Mignogna allegation even worst or similar to Michael Jackson 1993 trial and the 2005 trial.
Having said that, it would be unfair to say that the allegations don't mean anything against Mignogna. If the allegations are proven to be false, at best, for Mignogna, it means that they tried to destroy his reputation and he lost a few jobs. And at worst, if the accusations are proven to be true, then he should be on prison or serve community service. I'll reserve any judgement to those that actually knows all there is to know about any given case about him.
