What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
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What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
I am saying this because I am desperately grasping at straws to reconcile the idea that he's a cheater with the fact that he fears women.
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He got over his fear of women after the first arcCure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:28 am I am saying this because I am desperately grasping at straws to reconcile the idea that he's a cheater with the fact that he fears women.
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I think he overcame his fear long, long before what Bulma says about him cheating. He was 16 at the series' beginning and 27 or 28 by the Saiyan arc. Actually, I think the end of Pilaf where Yamcha and Bulma are blushing and giggling might have obliquely implied that his phobia was gone. (Haven't actually seen the series since 2009)
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Yamcha is the designated whipping boy of the series. The joke doesn't have to make sense so long it makes Yamcha look worse. It's how despite being a (relatively) tall, dark haired handsome man, his nerves got him fired from a his host club gig. That is the fate of Yamcha.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:28 am I am saying this because I am desperately grasping at straws to reconcile the idea that he's a cheater with the fact that he fears women.
So unless Toriyama can think of a joke that would work better with Yamcha's partner being a guy, it'll remain some unnamed woman of the night.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Bulma might've taken it better. She could at least tell herself "Oh, I see. He was gay, all along".
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Yamcha being a MLM is perfect and quaint. I bet he bottoms.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
To be honest this always came off as nonsense. Toriyama just wanted to have Bulma have a saiyan kid and had more contempt for Yamcha than Bulma.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:28 am I am saying this because I am desperately grasping at straws to reconcile the idea that he's a cheater with the fact that he fears women.
Yamcha's shown to be pretty much exclusively interested in Bulma as far as I recall. The closest thing to being unfaithul I can think of is maybe getting embarrassed when filler character Maron cuddles up to him in the Garlic Jr. arc. That's it. One non canon moment. Apart from that he's shown repeatedly that he wants to get married and that he gets excited when he thinks he and Bulma will have a kid together after Trunks leaves the first time.
Bulma meanwhile is seen actively hoping Jackie Chun is hot when she finds out Yamcha is fighting him, flirting with General Blue(albeit this is for survival so I'll give her a pass for this one), commenting on how handsome Goku has become and falling for Zarbon when she meets him on Namek whilst on a quest to REVIVE Yamcha. And then obviously she got pregnant with Trunks later.
Lastly during Dragonball she was always the one paranoid he was going to cheat on her, rather than Yamcha ever showing any interest in other women. Cheaters are usually the ones who accuse their partner of cheating to try and rationalise their own cheating.
In Universe you can explain it as coming from an unreliable narrator. Trunks, who reveals this tidbit, is Bulma's son. Bulma certainly won't tell him that she cheated on Yamcha for him to be born in the first place.
Yamcha cheating on Bulma with a guy is as good a head canon as any, but I just don't buy Yamcha as a cheater personally.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Didn't Dragon Ball Z start with Yamicha having cheated on Bulma? Like... episode two? Or was that a dubism? I can't remember at this point.
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She doesn't mention why she's upset with Yamcha as far as I can tell from skimming the episode.TheGreatness25 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:09 am Didn't Dragon Ball Z start with Yamicha having cheated on Bulma? Like... episode two? Or was that a dubism? I can't remember at this point.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Dub-ism. In episode 2 she said was mad at him but wouldn’t say why then in episode 10 we found out he stood her up because he was broke.TheGreatness25 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:09 am Didn't Dragon Ball Z start with Yamicha having cheated on Bulma? Like... episode two? Or was that a dubism? I can't remember at this point.
In the Funimation dub she was mad because he took someone else out. Then in episode 10 they mention he stood her up because he was broke but she comments he took “Becky Hathford” to the concert 3 days later and he retorts he had tickets but she wouldn’t go.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Cheating is cheating whether it's a guy or a girl, right ? or am I missing something here ...
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Toriyama stated he never did, and lost a job in a host club because of this.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:47 amHe got over his fear of women after the first arcCure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:28 am I am saying this because I am desperately grasping at straws to reconcile the idea that he's a cheater with the fact that he fears women.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Yes. The point of the hypothetical isn't to excuse Yamcha's cheating but to reconcile it with his apparent gynophobia (which Toriyama has stated Yamcha is still struggling with)Scientist Fu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:39 pm Cheating is cheating whether it's a guy or a girl, right ? or am I missing something here ...
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Cheating is lying and lying to your partner is bad!Scientist Fu wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:39 pm Cheating is cheating whether it's a guy or a girl, right ? or am I missing something here ...
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
The whole idea of Yamcha cheating on Bulma was obviously just thrown in so that she wouldn’t look like a scumbag for having a one night stand with Vegeta. As for Toriyama’s comments about how Yamcha still hasn’t gotten over his fear of women, that just goes to show that he doesn’t think much about this stuff.
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I don’t think Toriyama cares if Bulma looks like a scumbag or not....WittyUsername wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:30 pm The whole idea of Yamcha cheating on Bulma was obviously just thrown in so that she wouldn’t look like a scumbag for having a one night stand with Vegeta. As for Toriyama’s comments about how Yamcha still hasn’t gotten over his fear of women, that just goes to show that he doesn’t think much about this stuff.
At best we’re suppose to take it as unreliable source. Trunks said it so he’s possibly going off what his mom told him and her perspective may be a bit warped (Other girls are hitting on him, he’s cheating on me)
I could be petty and say this was something he said in a Battle of Gods interview circa 2013 so it matters to me as much as Dragon Ball Minus existing as Goku’s backstoryTobyS wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:03 pmToriyama stated he never did, and lost a job in a host club because of this.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:47 amHe got over his fear of women after the first arcCure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:28 am I am saying this because I am desperately grasping at straws to reconcile the idea that he's a cheater with the fact that he fears women.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
I don’t think the manga would even bother implying that Yamcha cheated on Bulma, if Toriyama didn’t have any concern regarding how Trunks’ existence would reflect on Bulma’s character. By the time the Cell arc came around, Toriyama seemed to try and make Bulma the voice of reason of the cast, so it’s not a stretch to imagine that he was looking for a convenient excuse for her to dump Yamcha for Vegeta that wouldn’t make her look like the bad guy.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:36 pmI don’t think Toriyama cares if Bulma looks like a scumbag or not....WittyUsername wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:30 pm The whole idea of Yamcha cheating on Bulma was obviously just thrown in so that she wouldn’t look like a scumbag for having a one night stand with Vegeta. As for Toriyama’s comments about how Yamcha still hasn’t gotten over his fear of women, that just goes to show that he doesn’t think much about this stuff.
At best we’re suppose to take it as unreliable source. Trunks said it so he’s possibly going off what his mom told him and her perspective may be a bit warped (Other girls are hitting on him, he’s cheating on me)
Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
Yamcha likes women, he just didn’t cheat period.
It was a story Bulma made up and told her son to justify her being thirsty towards the guy who was partly responsible for their friends getting killed.
It was a story Bulma made up and told her son to justify her being thirsty towards the guy who was partly responsible for their friends getting killed.
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Yamcha got cucked by Vegeta's cooking. The way to a woman's heart is through her stomach, not diamonds.
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Re: What if Yamcha cheated on Bulma with a GUY.
The recent video game Kakarot has him being a cheater at least as far back as the Saiyan arc where he two-times Bulma with multiple women including two women named Pearl and Sapphire. It is side material but as close to a concrete answer as you will get.
The idea that he is a womanizer that is afraid of women is funny but it isn't something that appears in anything about that interview. Unless you stretch it to fear of commitment.
The idea that he is a womanizer that is afraid of women is funny but it isn't something that appears in anything about that interview. Unless you stretch it to fear of commitment.