jjgp1112 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:02 am
The real answer is that Toei just didn't want to change the marketable voice that Goku already had for 3 years and 130 episodes. The end.
There is no real answer to what I said, you’re misunderstanding. Someone asked why it should be kept and I argued the jump from kid to adult while not drastic, anyone watching will hear a deeper tone, which actually sounds fine and is doable.
When even Bardock and adult Gohan, characters who couldn't be any more different from 23rd TB Goku, get the same voice it's obvious what's actually going on. Hell, Mayumi Tanaka remained the voice for Krillin after he grew up too. See a pattern here?
It's not necessary to keep the same voice for Goku at all.
Again, I don’t think you’ve read enough here, Gohan’s voice is different and you can actually hear it, especially when he speaks he’s much more fluent in his language. Barduck is definitely more serious and has a stronger tone than Son.
dragonmagico wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:57 am
funi's dub being complete, even if they were to lose the rights I cant see another company spending the money on a redub when most of the dub fanbase doesnt want a new dub and the people that really care about accuracy go japanese regardless of the anime anyway
Funi didn’t go with a recast for Kai because they don’t care enough to do it properly, if we have another situation one day where there is a reboot and funi for whatever reason isn’t around, while unlikely there’s still a chance we get a far superior dub than what we have already. Most of the “fan base” you speak of is just loud and nothing else, Funi could have easily have told them to fuck off (rightfully so, they are a cancer growing on the franchise) and continued with proper attack names and such. People before were arguing “people don’t care” and now it’s another weak argument. What you see is quite frankly that people who constantly defend the dub don’t like it that a woman voices Goku, and overall they hate the original voices with a passion. Those people should be left behind, they have their Z dub, and they’ve managed to essentially fuck up another couple decades of eng DB.
WittyUsername wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 12:13 pm
There’s no reason Goku needs to have the same voice as a child and an adult. Just because that’s what the Japanese version did doesn’t mean that’s what the dub has to do.
Just because the Japanese had Nozawa do Black doesn’t mean the dub has to do it, just because Son Goku isn’t “Zero” doesn’t mean it can’t be changed to that.
Honestly, everyone I’ve spoken to who has either seen it from DB into Z or started with Z first even, or people who haven’t seen DB and they are shown the comparison between the adult and kid Son Goku, they all hear a difference. However this is purely anecdotal, though it just seems to me that people want Goku with a stereotypical manly voice like what we have in the dub now. Each to their own, but at the same time they shouldn’t dictate future dubs.
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: ↑Sat Apr 17, 2021 2:47 pm
Nancy Cartwright voiced teenage Bart in The Simpsons, and Tara Strong voiced old age Omi in Xiaolin Showdown. I could see an argument for the former still being quite child-like for his age, but the latter showed some level of maturity from what we saw of him. It's not just for business reasons, it is natural and makes perfect sense for the same actor to voice a character both as a child and in adulthood if they have the talent to do it as older voices are always a variation of the vocal range someone has. My voice is noticeably lower tan when I was a child, but I can compare what I sounded like then vs now and see a natural maturation of the same voice. If anything it would be a new actor that would have an uphill battle, and while it wouldn't be impossible, TOEI definitely would have had a challenge finding a suitable recast for 23rd Tenkaichi Goku.
Precisely so, Nozawa is able to do multiple characters and while making it clear they are related to one another, they are at the same time different. Replacing a VA just because the character enters adult hood for the sake of it is incredibly stupid.