The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
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The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
I had an interesting convo with a friend the other day, they said they preferred Dragonball Super to the original Dragonball.
The two series are so different, and it's actually incredible where the series went. Goku went from a kid with a tail going on adventures on Earth, Z introduced space and other aliens, and finally Super introduced Gods as well as other universes.
But if you had to choose between the two series, which one would you prefer and why?
For me it's the Original Dragonball, Super's timeline doesn't add tension for me, and the original series had a good mix of adventure, incredible fights especially with hand to hand combat, and great tension.
What do you guys think?
The two series are so different, and it's actually incredible where the series went. Goku went from a kid with a tail going on adventures on Earth, Z introduced space and other aliens, and finally Super introduced Gods as well as other universes.
But if you had to choose between the two series, which one would you prefer and why?
For me it's the Original Dragonball, Super's timeline doesn't add tension for me, and the original series had a good mix of adventure, incredible fights especially with hand to hand combat, and great tension.
What do you guys think?
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Re: The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
The original Dragon Ball is my favorite of them all (include Z, GT, and Super), with the Piccolo Jr. Saga being my favorite of the entire series, perhaps. Tension was at its peak during the King Piccolo and Piccolo Jr. arcs, despite later villains being much more powerful and the stakes becoming planet-and-universal-level. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the Roshi pervy-ness. With Super, I'll say it introduced one of the best DB franchise villains in Goku Black/Zamasu, and even if it's overly long, I really enjoy the TOP and Ultra Instinct. Episode 131 is one of my favorites in the entire franchise.
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
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I prefer the original Dragon Ball over Z, so of course I prefer it over Super.
Though I would guess in general most fans do prefer Super over the original Dragon Ball Especially USA/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/UK fans who see Super as a long awaited “sequel” to Z and Dragon Ball as a superfluous prequel thing.
Though I would guess in general most fans do prefer Super over the original Dragon Ball Especially USA/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/UK fans who see Super as a long awaited “sequel” to Z and Dragon Ball as a superfluous prequel thing.
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I'd be willing to wager a lot of fans who feel this way haven't bothered to watch OG Dragon Ball.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:54 pm I prefer the original Dragon Ball over Z, so of course I prefer it over Super.
Though I would guess in general most fans do prefer Super over the original Dragon Ball Especially USA/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/UK fans who see Super as a long awaited “sequel” to Z and Dragon Ball as a superfluous prequel thing.
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
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Probably not since it was on ToonamiDemon Prince Piccolo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:03 pmI'd be willing to wager a lot of fans who feel this way haven't bothered to watch OG Dragon Ball.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:54 pm I prefer the original Dragon Ball over Z, so of course I prefer it over Super.
Though I would guess in general most fans do prefer Super over the original Dragon Ball Especially USA/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/UK fans who see Super as a long awaited “sequel” to Z and Dragon Ball as a superfluous prequel thing.
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The first DB anime is, well, not a load of mediocre rubbish, sooooo...
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Some of the younger fans today haven't seen it at all. There's a generation of DB fans now that weren't even alive or toddlers when the OG was on Toonami.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:33 pmProbably not since it was on ToonamiDemon Prince Piccolo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:03 pmI'd be willing to wager a lot of fans who feel this way haven't bothered to watch OG Dragon Ball.MasenkoHA wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:54 pm I prefer the original Dragon Ball over Z, so of course I prefer it over Super.
Though I would guess in general most fans do prefer Super over the original Dragon Ball Especially USA/Canada/Australia/New Zealand/UK fans who see Super as a long awaited “sequel” to Z and Dragon Ball as a superfluous prequel thing.
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
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While I watched all of DBZ as a child back in the 90s when it was first airing on toonami, I didn't actually watch the original Dragon Ball until Super came out - and I watched them simultaneously together.
I vastly prefer OG Dragon Ball to the super anime, and I probably prefer it to DBZ as well. Watching both the DBZ "prequel" and sequel at the same time when they were both new to me made me depressed with how shoddy Super was. During the RoF arc I couldn't believe the difference in quality and how far Super had fallen from what came before. Luckily the anime did pick up in quality after that and I mostly enjoyed by the time it was over. Great highs and miserable lows.
In terms of the mangas, I still think DB > DBZ > DBS, but the quality difference is less over the top.
I vastly prefer OG Dragon Ball to the super anime, and I probably prefer it to DBZ as well. Watching both the DBZ "prequel" and sequel at the same time when they were both new to me made me depressed with how shoddy Super was. During the RoF arc I couldn't believe the difference in quality and how far Super had fallen from what came before. Luckily the anime did pick up in quality after that and I mostly enjoyed by the time it was over. Great highs and miserable lows.
In terms of the mangas, I still think DB > DBZ > DBS, but the quality difference is less over the top.
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The only way I could possibly understand anyone preferring Super over OG DB is either:
A. They only watched the first 13 or so episodes of DB and then gave up because it's "childish shit, it's not real DRAGON BALL ZEE!!"
or B. They only watch Dragon Ball for the fights.
I fit in neither category. In fact, I actually hate Super, I think it's worse than GT by a significant amount. DB, I consider the very best of Dragon Ball. It has the rough start before Toriyama figured out what Dragon Ball should be, but it also has most of the show's golden years before it started to decay after Freeza's defeat. (IMO the Cell and Boo arcs are very poorly written)
A. They only watched the first 13 or so episodes of DB and then gave up because it's "childish shit, it's not real DRAGON BALL ZEE!!"
or B. They only watch Dragon Ball for the fights.
I fit in neither category. In fact, I actually hate Super, I think it's worse than GT by a significant amount. DB, I consider the very best of Dragon Ball. It has the rough start before Toriyama figured out what Dragon Ball should be, but it also has most of the show's golden years before it started to decay after Freeza's defeat. (IMO the Cell and Boo arcs are very poorly written)
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Re: The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
Small correction, but gods were introduced long before DBS.
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Dragon Ball had better fights than both Super and Z combined.Robo4900 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:58 pm The only way I could possibly understand anyone preferring Super over OG DB is either:
A. They only watched the first 13 or so episodes of DB and then gave up because it's "childish shit, it's not real DRAGON BALL ZEE!!"
or B. They only watch Dragon Ball for the fights.
I fit in neither category. In fact, I actually hate Super, I think it's worse than GT by a significant amount. DB, I consider the very best of Dragon Ball. It has the rough start before Toriyama figured out what Dragon Ball should be, but it also has most of the show's golden years before it started to decay after Freeza's defeat. (IMO the Cell and Boo arcs are very poorly written)
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The only fights that approach OG Dragon Ball imho are the first Goku vs. Vegeta fight and Goku vs. Cell. But it really doesn't get much better than Goku vs Piccolo Jr. and both Goku vs. Tenshinhan matches for me.Cure Dragon 255 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:51 pmDragon Ball had better fights than both Super and Z combined.Robo4900 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:58 pm The only way I could possibly understand anyone preferring Super over OG DB is either:
A. They only watched the first 13 or so episodes of DB and then gave up because it's "childish shit, it's not real DRAGON BALL ZEE!!"
or B. They only watch Dragon Ball for the fights.
I fit in neither category. In fact, I actually hate Super, I think it's worse than GT by a significant amount. DB, I consider the very best of Dragon Ball. It has the rough start before Toriyama figured out what Dragon Ball should be, but it also has most of the show's golden years before it started to decay after Freeza's defeat. (IMO the Cell and Boo arcs are very poorly written)
The story of DRAGON BALL starts from the moment Goku met Bulma. I don't really mind the Z, so long as it's understood that it's not the true beginning of the story.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
I actually prefer the Goku vs Tenshinhan and Goku vs Piccolo Jr. rivalries to the Goku vs Vegeta rivalry.
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Super isn't as bad as some people say, but it's got nothing on OG DB. It just doesn't have the same heart or originality, instead rehashing old stuff. And I found Goku more likeable in DB than Super.
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DB by a mile. I mean, I really like Super and think it's a pretty good (if uneven) show after the movie retellings, but to argue that it has much of anything on the original other than some really cool fights? Nah, not a position I'd ever consider taking. Super is fun, but DB is a bona-fide classic.
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Re: The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
I have not watched Dragon Ball Super entirely so I supposed I can't provide a 100% accurate judgment.
I agree it is an entirely different series.
I am not against DB super, although it did hurt me when they said that Super Timeline cancells GT.
It is not the first time they do that to a fandom, usually I just try to look at the bright side: The franchise has a chance to live again for the younger generations and also makes new people watch the old series.
I agree it is an entirely different series.
I am not against DB super, although it did hurt me when they said that Super Timeline cancells GT.
It is not the first time they do that to a fandom, usually I just try to look at the bright side: The franchise has a chance to live again for the younger generations and also makes new people watch the old series.
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The original Dragon Ball is arguably better than DBZ so I definitely prefer it over Super.
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Super tends to go back to old material, and some of it certainly feels like its fan service. The original dragonball got more progressively dark as that series went on which I thoroughly enjoyed.Robo4900 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:58 pm The only way I could possibly understand anyone preferring Super over OG DB is either:
A. They only watched the first 13 or so episodes of DB and then gave up because it's "childish shit, it's not real DRAGON BALL ZEE!!"
or B. They only watch Dragon Ball for the fights.
I fit in neither category. In fact, I actually hate Super, I think it's worse than GT by a significant amount. DB, I consider the very best of Dragon Ball. It has the rough start before Toriyama figured out what Dragon Ball should be, but it also has most of the show's golden years before it started to decay after Freeza's defeat. (IMO the Cell and Boo arcs are very poorly written)
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Re: The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
"they preferred Dragonball Super to the original Dragonball"
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Dragon Ball. Easily the best amongst all of them. OG DB is top, DBS is at the very bottom (constantly digs deeper).
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Re: The Original Dragonball vs Dragonball Super
To me, they are legit-equal.omaro34 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:00 pm I had an interesting convo with a friend the other day, they said they preferred Dragonball Super to the original Dragonball.
The two series are so different, and it's actually incredible where the series went. Goku went from a kid with a tail going on adventures on Earth, Z introduced space and other aliens, and finally Super introduced Gods as well as other universes.
But if you had to choose between the two series, which one would you prefer and why?
For me it's the Original Dragonball, Super's timeline doesn't add tension for me, and the original series had a good mix of adventure, incredible fights especially with hand to hand combat, and great tension.
What do you guys think?
I have to admit I'm a modern art and animation junky. So if OG DB was redone with today's techniques and styles, I'd pick it over Super, easily. It has Super beat in just about every other category, not that I dislike Super or anything.