Censorship Double Standards

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:31 am

I don't know if anyone else noticed this, but does Cartoon Network have a wierd double standard on Dragon Ball when it comes to censoring? For example, they showed Little Goku and Little Krillin's naked butts, but they cut out the scenes with Ranfan in her bra and panties. I don't understand this, since she was actually wearing more clothes than either of them. Any thoughts?

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:34 am

The answer is actually quite simple, but it is a doube standard. Showing a kids naked butt is apparently acceptable because some people think it's cute and innocent, while Ranfan stripping down was entirely sexual in nature. Frankly, imagine watching Dragon Ball with your parents when one of the female characters starts doing a strip tease. See the difference?

admin · Post by **admin** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:38 am

Deus ex Machina wrote:The answer is actually quite simple, but it is a doube standard. Showing a kids naked butt is apparently acceptable because some people think it's cute and innocent, while Ranfan stripping down was entirely sexual in nature. Frankly, imagine watching Dragon Ball with your parents when one of the female characters starts doing a strip tease. See the difference?

He is indeed right. That's why you can see all the little baby diaper commercials on NBC or whatever with little nekkid kids running around but the fact is a sexy victoria secret commercial would probably never air right after that

(Heh, and nice avatar to go with your post)

SDHero · Post by **SDHero** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:48 am

Josh wrote:(Heh, and nice avatar to go with your post)

Yes, you're illustrating your point right now! I wouldn't use that image in a "Why I like Dragonball" presentation, you know? Can you imagine?

"Well, one of the characters, named Bra, if she were older and had what Dave Chapelle refers to as 'great New York boobs', would be totally hot."

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:53 am

SDHero wrote:Yes, you're illustrating your point right now! I wouldn't use that image in a "Why I like Dragonball" presentation, you know? Can you imagine?

Heh, but my avatar isn't a reflection of just my fandom, but of my own funny personality

Besides, I'm just trying to encourage people to STEP INTO THU' GRAND TOUR!

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:32 am

SDHero wrote:"Well, one of the characters, named Bra, if she were older and had what Dave Chapelle refers to as 'great New York boobs', would be totally hot."

Well, for some reason GT DID make Bra physically in her late teens. No matter how you look at it (she was 3 at end of Z or 5) she should still be ten at most during GT.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:36 am

Deus ex Machina wrote:The answer is actually quite simple, but it is a doube standard.

Er, it's not a double standard at all, as the two situations are completely different.

If, say, they allowed a man to pose in a jockstrap to try and turn a woman on, but cut out the Ranfan strip tease, then it would be a double standard. But as the original situation had one example that was primarily cute, and another that was primarily sexual, it's not a double standard because they aren't directly comparable with each other.

admin · Post by **admin** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:07 pm

Dayspring wrote:
SDHero wrote:"Well, one of the characters, named Bra, if she were older and had what Dave Chapelle refers to as 'great New York boobs', would be totally hot."
Well, for some reason GT DID make Bra physically in her late teens. No matter how you look at it (she was 3 at end of Z or 5) she should still be ten at most during GT.

Maybe she's just well developed

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 1:43 pm

That's weird, I remember seeing them show Lanfan in her bra and panties when it was on t.v. here. I wonder if the Blue Waters dub just didn't edit it.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 3:11 pm

Doesn't Canada pwn us all in sexual stuff?

*PINHEAD* · Post by ***PINHEAD*** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:02 pm

SDHero wrote:
Josh wrote:(Heh, and nice avatar to go with your post)
Yes, you're illustrating your point right now! I wouldn't use that image in a "Why I like Dragonball" presentation, you know? Can you imagine?

I would.

To Deus Ex Machina:

...Yep. Seeing a chick strip is different than seeing a butt intended for cuteness. But is seeing the butts of 13-14 year olds (which Son Goku and Kuririn were about) really cute and innocent?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:02 pm

B-kun wrote:Doesn't Canada pwn us all in sexual stuff?

**Changes channel to a french Canadian channel and lucks out on soft-core porn**
YEP!

SDHero · Post by **SDHero** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:15 pm

Josh wrote:Maybe she's just well developed

No more so than her mother, who's only about 16 in the first volume of DB. I wouldn't feel sorry for Bra, tho. Sure she's, uh, looking good for her age, but it's not like she can do anything about it. Not until she finds a guy who can kick her father's ass

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 4:51 pm

Vegeta doesn't have probs with her being with a guy. EVENTUALLY. It's just that he knows she's currently only 8 (or 10) years old!

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 5:01 pm

Its cuz CARTOON NETWORK and FUNIMATION and EVERY anime company out there is the Anti-Christ! They dun believe in argh gawd! Why do you think they CENSOR words like GOD and HEAVEN and HELL!? They don't want to go to heaven, they dun believe that the hellhole that is Hell and Lucifer himself exists, and when they all die, that is where they are going! Cuz they refuse the love of god and sweet Jesus Christ O' Mighty!

They want to teach our children that there is no life after death, but only another dimension and HFIL! BANISH DER BASTARDS!!

They are holding back our children from god's touch! Begone evil cartoon animation people with your paganish ways!

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 7:05 pm

During the Buu saga they stopped with that HFIL crap and simply referred to Hell as "down below". So basically they were saying Hell without actually saying the word Hell.

SDHero · Post by **SDHero** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:10 pm

Which is an insult to most of the children watching the show, as if they couldn't figure out that 1+1=2. I'm still confused as to why Funi's attempt to make DBZ "soccer mom friendly" has to tiptoe around bad people dying and subsequently going to Hell. Anyone loony enough to complain to the network about a TV show their kid is watching rather than just turn off the set is liable to be the sort who drags their child to church three or four times a week.

Edited to correct my syntax

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:59 pm

Dayspring wrote:
B-kun wrote:Doesn't Canada pwn us all in sexual stuff?
**Changes channel to a french Canadian channel and lucks out on soft-core porn**
YEP!

Heh! I know what channel that is Dayspring. XP

I find it odd that they won't actually show Lanfan stripped down in her bra and panties, but they still kept the whole idea that she was using her sexuality to distract Namu. I mean isn't that more "mature content" than just the sight of a woman in her underwear? Which by the way is kind of ruined by the fact that she kept her socks and running shoes on. Kind of ruined the image.

The S · Post by **The S** » Sat Aug 14, 2004 10:41 pm

They are holding back our children from god's touch! Begone evil cartoon animation people with your paganish ways!

Speak for yourself. I am a polytheist. But I also believe in Jesus and Yahweh.

I mean isn't that more "mature content" than just the sight of a woman in her underwear? Which by the way is kind of ruined by the fact that she kept her socks and running shoes on. Kind of ruined the image.

I dunno. She could have removed the shoes, but I wouldn't have minded if she would have kept the socks! :p

Super Sonic · Post by **Super Sonic** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 1:14 am

I believe that Izlude was just joking. Saying "Oh, my god," and things such as isn't blasphemous unless your insane. When Tenchi was on Toonami, they said that all the time. Same with Batman and Superman. Unfortunately, showing TV with religious references can get some people upset, whether it's the crazy conservative religious right, or crazy atheists with sticks up their asses.

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