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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ThePiccolo » Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:37 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Kaioshin
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Fat Janemba vs. Fat Boo (Pre Split)
- Super Janemba vs. Kid Boo
- SSj Grade 3 Trunks (No Speed Issues) vs. MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Android 18
- SSj Goku (Namek) vs. Mecha Freeza
- Hypothetical SSj2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
- Tagoma takes this
- I feel like Cell would win
- I personally have First Form Frieza at SPC level, so Ginyu gets wrecked by both SPC and Kid Gohan
- Very close match. but I'll back Janemba on this one
- Super Janemba, most likely
- Goku still takes it
- 18 would probably still win if she's serious enough
- Very close, but Goku wins
- The way I see it: SPC > SSJ2 Goku(CG)~Buff Cell > Perfect Cell. SSJ2 Goku would beat Perfect Cell, but the match would be very even if Cell goes buff. Cell would have a power advantage, but would be much slower, and be burning through ki. So I'm gonna give it to Goku.

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Post by ZombieVito » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:30 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Kaioshin
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Fat Janemba vs. Fat Boo (Pre Split)
- Super Janemba vs. Kid Boo
- SSj Grade 3 Trunks (No Speed Issues) vs. MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Android 18
- SSj Goku (Namek) vs. Mecha Freeza
- Hypothetical SSj2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
Tagoma murders Kaioshin unless he uses magic to paralyze him.
Tagoma has a small power advantage but Cell secures the win thanks to his skill and regeneration.
Ginyu gets bored and finger flicks his opponent.
Same as above.
I honestly don't know.
Janemba easily. He trashed SSJ3 Goku.
Goku still wins very easily.
18 wins with mild difficulty.
Freeza puts a way better fight but still losses.
Equals. Cell wins thanks to his regeneration.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:24 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Kaioshin
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Fat Janemba vs. Fat Boo (Pre Split)
- Super Janemba vs. Kid Boo
- SSj Grade 3 Trunks (No Speed Issues) vs. MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Android 18
- SSj Goku (Namek) vs. Mecha Freeza
- Hypothetical SSj2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
- Tagoma is arguably at Cell/Super Saiyan 2 levels of power, whereas Kaioshin is decidedly below the Boo Arc Super Saiyans. Tagoma wins.
- Could go either way, but Cell's regeneration isn't doing Tagoma any favors.
- Ginyu would probably win, but he's gonna have to work for it.
- Same as the last match,, unless if Gohan can pull some more hidden strength.
- Fat Janemba is the new holder of the "most awesome Ki I've ever felt" award and would be above Fat Boo. That said, it remains to be seen if Janemba could pull together a blast strong enough to finish Boo off, or if he has any defense on Fat Boo's candy beam. Could go either way.
- Pure Boo is more or less on par with Super Saiyan Goku whereas Super Janemba completely outclasses him. Janemba all the way.
- Grade 3's power is impressive, but it's got nothing on Goku. Hell, I'd say that the "about half" power that Goku showed to Karin could rival Grade 3.
- The two Super Saiyans might be able to squeeze a win if they don't let the fight drag on.Otherwise 18 will pick them apart.
-The two are pretty much equal, but Goku's just an all-around more skilled fighter. It could go either way, but the odds are in Goku's favor.
- SS2 Goku could probably win but Cell's gonna make him work for it.
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Post by Lunatic Fringe » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:34 pm

Jackie Chun(22nd WMAT) vs. Kaede Nagase, Setsuna Sakurazaki & Ku Fei

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:22 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Kaioshin
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Fat Janemba vs. Fat Boo (Pre Split)
- Super Janemba vs. Kid Boo
- SSj Grade 3 Trunks (No Speed Issues) vs. MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Android 18
- SSj Goku (Namek) vs. Mecha Freeza
- Hypothetical SSj2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
-I consider then roughly equal in strength: much stronger than Piccolo but not that close to the Buu arc Super Saiyans, besides the kids. Kaioshin would take it due to better abilities though.
-Cell totally wrecks Tagoma, even easier than SS Gohan did.
-Ginyu-Tagoma STILL got wrecked by SS Gohan. Three guesses on what happens when he goes against someone stronger than Perfect Cell, who beat up a stronger version of SS Gohan.
-Do you just hate all versions of Tagoma? You can throw seven Ginyu-Tagomas at Gohan, and it would end the exact same way as Gohan's fight with the Cell Jrs.
-Goku said that Fat Janemba was the strongest guy he fought, and his dialogue indicates he fought Fat Buu. So I'll give it to Janemba.
-Their abilities counter each other's well enough to make them a non-issue. I see them as series to movies counterparts; Janemba is slightly stronger, but Buu has a stamina advantage. Ultimately I'll give it to Buu. You need to be quite a bit stronger than Buu to actually win against him without help, since he's just constantly recovering from wounds and fatigue.
-Goku's 50% power was already enough to blow everyone's mindz after SSG3 Trunks... this is not going to end well for the little shit.
-I'd call it a 50/50 split. The team is fighting an uphill battle, but they can win if they land a charged up Super Kamehameha or Final Flash. 17 said he doubted 18 could take Vegeta + Trunks + Piccolo, and this team is stronger than that.
-They are equal in strength, however Goku still has a non-insignificant advantage in stamina. Close, but I'll go with Goku.
-Cell, but not due to being stronger, just close enough to compensate if he is serious. Him going full speed against SS Gohan and Gohan landing a hit anyway implies that full power Cell and SS Gohan aren't too far apart in power, and Gohan isn't close to twice as strong as his dad. Roughly, SS Goku is a 20, SS Gohan is a 28, full power Cell a 35, and SS2 Goku is a 40.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:29 pm

Lunatic Fringe wrote:Jackie Chun(22nd WMAT) vs. Kaede Nagase, Setsuna Sakurazaki & Ku Fei

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads ... ei_negima/
Jackie Chun takes this easily.

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Post by zDBZ » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:00 pm

Ultimate/Mystic Gohan wielding a reforged Z sword vs Janemba with his blood sword.

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Post by Khin » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:36 pm

zDBZ wrote:Ultimate/Mystic Gohan wielding a reforged Z sword vs Janemba with his blood sword.
Even without the sword.Ultimate Gohan still roflstomps.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:38 pm

zDBZ wrote:Ultimate/Mystic Gohan wielding a reforged Z sword vs Janemba with his blood sword.
Ultimate Gohan won't need any sword, he one shots Janemba.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Jan 31, 2016 7:50 pm

zDBZ wrote:Ultimate/Mystic Gohan wielding a reforged Z sword vs Janemba with his blood sword.
Sword or no sword, Gohan doesn't have the skill or ridiculous power advantage to deal with Janemba's weirder abilities.
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Post by Pocket-God » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:00 pm

zDBZ wrote:Ultimate/Mystic Gohan wielding a reforged Z sword vs Janemba with his blood sword.
Unlike most I see Janbemba as pretty near Buutenk's level so I'll go with Gohan loses.

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Post by Khin » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:02 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:Sword or no sword, Gohan doesn't have the skill or ridiculous power advantage to deal with Janemba's weirder abilities.
Movie details are quite a mess but Janemba got wrecked by SSj Gogeta who is a good chuck stronger than SSj Gotenks who is at least 8x weaker than Ultimate Gohan (Unless you think Movie 12 Gogeta was TOEI haxxed)

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:52 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:Sword or no sword, Gohan doesn't have the skill or ridiculous power advantage to deal with Janemba's weirder abilities.
Movie details are quite a mess but Janemba got wrecked by SSj Gogeta who is a good chuck stronger than SSj Gotenks who is at least 8x weaker than Ultimate Gohan (Unless you think Movie 12 Gogeta was TOEI haxxed)
I work with inconsistent Fusion multipliers. Gotenks is (Goten + Trunks) x 5 whereas Gogeta is (Goku + Vegeta) x 20~25, which puts SS Gogeta a few notches stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Janemba is weaker than either of them, but the gap between him and Gohan isn't quite enough for the relatively unskilled Gohan to deal with Janemba's reality distortion abilities. My decision to make Gohan unable to beat Janemba has to do with how Gohan wasn't able to beat Hirudegarn in movie 13, who was stated to be weaker than Janemba by Toei.
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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:55 pm

DanielSSJ wrote:My decision to make Gohan unable to beat Janemba has to do with how Gohan wasn't able to beat Hirudegarn in movie 13, who was stated to be weaker than Janemba by Toei.
Yet at the same time, Takao Koyama says that Hirudegarn is stronger than Janemba.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Sun Jan 31, 2016 9:30 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:My decision to make Gohan unable to beat Janemba has to do with how Gohan wasn't able to beat Hirudegarn in movie 13, who was stated to be weaker than Janemba by Toei.
Yet at the same time, Takao Koyama says that Hirudegarn is stronger than Janemba.
Huh. It probably wouldn't have affected my opinion that much. As I said, Gohan's stronger than both of them, but isn't skilled enough to deal with their weird powers.
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Post by Khin » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:14 am

New Matches :
- Golden Freeza (No Stamina Issues) vs. SSjB Goku (Champa Arc but Pre ROSAT)
- Golden Freeza vs. Base Goku and Vegeta (ROF Arc)
- Future Gohan (1 Arm) vs. SSj Goku (Freeza Arc)
- Imperfect Cell (Gingertown) vs. Future Android 17
- Abo and Cado (No Merging) vs. Kuririn and Tenshinhan (Boo Saga)
- Roshi (ROF Arc) vs. Jaco (ROF Arc)
- Blonde Launch vs. Ranfan
- Piccolo (Pre Nail merging) vs. Recoome,Butta and Jheese
- Kid Gohan and Kuririn (Post Guru powerup) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru)
- Kuririn (Battle with Ginyu) vs. Vegeta (Namek Arrival)

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SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Kaioshin
- Tagoma (DBS) vs. Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. Super Perfect Cell
- Ginyu (DBS) vs. SSj2 Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Fat Janemba vs. Fat Boo (Pre Split)
- Super Janemba vs. Kid Boo
- SSj Grade 3 Trunks (No Speed Issues) vs. MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- SSj Vegeta and Healthy SSj Goku (Android Arc) vs. Android 18
- SSj Goku (Namek) vs. Mecha Freeza
- Hypothetical SSj2 Goku (Cell Games) vs. Perfect Cell
- Tagoma & ginyu easily in all matches
- Fat buu showed some fighting ability (actually great). He also has haxed regeneration and candy beam / absorptions. The power difference is not THAT big. I back fat buu
- Kid buu. The power difference between them is even smaller. Kid buu can learn techniques by only observing them , has incredibly haxed regeneration & absorptions (plus infinite stamina). In short, kid buu can kill janemba, but janemba can't kill buu.
- Goku takes him down in a few good shots. The power difference is big , and this is not even counting the skill difference.
- #18 was toying with vegeta, who is equal to goku. If you add piccolo & trunks too, then team takes this, otherwise she just tires them out for the win.
- I have mecha freeza WEAKER than namek freeza AND namek goku.
- You can make it SPC, and goku still stomps him to the ground, before blowing out every single one of his cell.
zDBZ wrote:Ultimate/Mystic Gohan wielding a reforged Z sword vs Janemba with his blood sword.
Can go either way. I think the good power advantage gohan has, is really countered by the abilities of janemba, but if gohan has mastered the Z sword, I assume he can take janemba out.
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Golden Freeza (No Stamina Issues) vs. SSjB Goku (Champa Arc but Pre ROSAT)
- Golden Freeza vs. Base Goku and Vegeta (ROF Arc)
- Future Gohan (1 Arm) vs. SSj Goku (Freeza Arc)
- Imperfect Cell (Gingertown) vs. Future Android 17
- Abo and Cado (No Merging) vs. Kuririn and Tenshinhan (Boo Saga)
- Roshi (ROF Arc) vs. Jaco (ROF Arc)
- Blonde Launch vs. Ranfan
- Piccolo (Pre Nail merging) vs. Recoome,Butta and Jheese
- Kid Gohan and Kuririn (Post Guru powerup) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru)
- Kuririn (Battle with Ginyu) vs. Vegeta (Namek Arrival)
- Golden freeza takes this with a hell of fight.
- Base saiyans have no chance, even if it is post stamina drain freeza.
- Gohan said he never surpassed his father, & wasn't even close to surpass him, who was not much stronger than yadrat goku , who was again not much above freeza goku. So, they are close in power, but 1 arm & skill disadvantage for gohan is too much.
- Cell becomes semi-perfect. He was a good fight to weighted kamiccolo , who unweighted had a power advantage against #17. Future #17 was like 1.6x stronger than gohan at best (I used less than half power last time). and this gohan is more like namek goku range than SS vegeta range.
- Abo and cado were good opponents for kids (base). The only hope for humans is destructo disc
- Roshi easily.
- The gunwoman takes this. She can pull guns outta nowhere.
- Piccolo (weighted) can close his eyes, rip away his one arm , tell all them to attack at once & still kill them with ease.
- Vegeta. He has armor, and a better H2H record, maybe even a power advantage.
- If gohan gets angry enough, he can take this alone, but with krillin, they win for sure.
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Tournament (what-if 22nd TB)

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Round - 1


Pamput vs Nam
Chappa vs Bandage mummy man

Bora vs puntar (25nd TB)
Ninja mursaki vs 21st TB krillin


how do the tournament go ? who wins in the end ?
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apex_pretador wrote:Tournament (what-if 22nd TB)

_____________________________________
Round - 1


Pamput vs Nam
Chappa vs Bandage mummy man

Bora vs puntar (25nd TB)
Ninja mursaki vs 21st TB krillin


how do the tournament go ? who wins in the end ?
-Nam
-Chappa redeems his pathetic on-screen performance
-Bora takes Puntar down with one punch to the belly
-Krillin stomps... Murasaki only lasted against Goku because he was basically toying with him
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Golden Freeza (No Stamina Issues) vs. SSjB Goku (Champa Arc but Pre ROSAT)
- Golden Freeza vs. Base Goku and Vegeta (ROF Arc)
- Future Gohan (1 Arm) vs. SSj Goku (Freeza Arc)
- Imperfect Cell (Gingertown) vs. Future Android 17
- Abo and Cado (No Merging) vs. Kuririn and Tenshinhan (Boo Saga)
- Roshi (ROF Arc) vs. Jaco (ROF Arc)
- Blonde Launch vs. Ranfan
- Piccolo (Pre Nail merging) vs. Recoome,Butta and Jheese
- Kid Gohan and Kuririn (Post Guru powerup) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru)
- Kuririn (Battle with Ginyu) vs. Vegeta (Namek Arrival)
-Freeza...?
-Freeza stomps
-Gohan
-Cell
-Abo and Cado stomp
-Lunch is probably stronger but tactics aside Ranfan is still a trained fighter thus can easily subdue her
-Piccolo gets overwhelmed
-Krillin stomps?
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Post by ZombieVito » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:21 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:New Matches :
- Golden Freeza (No Stamina Issues) vs. SSjB Goku (Champa Arc but Pre ROSAT)
- Golden Freeza vs. Base Goku and Vegeta (ROF Arc)
- Future Gohan (1 Arm) vs. SSj Goku (Freeza Arc)
- Imperfect Cell (Gingertown) vs. Future Android 17
- Abo and Cado (No Merging) vs. Kuririn and Tenshinhan (Boo Saga)
- Roshi (ROF Arc) vs. Jaco (ROF Arc)
- Blonde Launch vs. Ranfan
- Piccolo (Pre Nail merging) vs. Recoome,Butta and Jheese
- Kid Gohan and Kuririn (Post Guru powerup) vs. Vegeta (Saiyan Arc,No Oozaru)
- Kuririn (Battle with Ginyu) vs. Vegeta (Namek Arrival)
Freeza still wins.
Freeza murders Goku in seconds.
While Gohan is stronger he losses because of the arm disadvantage.
The only way Cell wins is if he absorbs 17.
While weaker the humans are way more skilled, they win.
Jaco was said to be able to handle Kid Saiyans, Roshi couldn't so he losses.
Ranfan wins very easily.
Piccolo beats the Ginyu force worse than Goku did.
The team has a chance if Gohan gets enraged.
Kuririn wins after a very hard and long fight.

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