The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[ThePiccolo]

New fights:

Semi Cell [Initial; no power up] vs Super Saiyan Vegeta [1st RoSaT]
Base Gohan [Champa arc] vs SSJ3 Goku [BoG]
Base Gohan [Champa arc] vs SSJ3 Gotenks

- Vegeta takes this, but has some trouble
- I don't Gohan is all that strong at this point, so he ain't getting past Goku or Gotenks in base

equal power levels battle: (everyone has PL of 50,000, no transformation)

- Nail vs piccolo jr (pre fusion)
- SS vegeta (android arc) vs Tenshinhan
- Yamcha vs nappa
- cell vs fat buu
- king piccolo vs raditz
- SS Vegetto vs kid buu

- Both are very intelligent fighters, but I think Piccolo's techniques give him the win
- Tien would take this. Not only is being a Super Saiyan stressful on your ki, but Tien is more of a martial artist, and has the Kikiho as backup.
- Nappa's better durability and fighting sense give him the win
- Cell's a much stronger fighter. If he can dodge Buu's candy beam and vaporize Buu, he has this
- KIng Piccolo, due to intelligence
- Vegetto's intellect gives him the win over Buu

I haven't logged in for some days.Anyway,here's a gaunlet.
SSj Goten and SSj Trunks (Post ROSAT) runs the gaunlet together.

- Piccolo (Boo Arc)
- MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- Perfect Cell (vs.Goku)
- SSj Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
- SSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Perfect Cell
- Super Perfect Cell

- They can only make it past Piccolo if they work together really well. Piccolo's definitely smarter, and it could go either way, imo.

[Lord Beerus]

I haven't logged in for some days.Anyway,here's a gaunlet.
SSj Goten and SSj Trunks (Post ROSAT) runs the gaunlet together.

- Piccolo (Boo Arc)
- MSSj Goku (Cell Games)
- Perfect Cell (vs.Goku)
- SSj Teen Gohan (25th Budokai)
- SSj Kid Gohan (Cell Games)
- Perfect Cell
- Super Perfect Cell

Goten and Trunks clear the gauntlet. Their strength skyrocketed after training in the ROSAT.

Enough for them beat FP Perfect Cell and Super Perfect Cell without even needing SSJ2?

SSJ Goten (pre-ROSAT) was strongly implied to be very near the strength of SSJ Teen Gohan. While SSJ Gotenks (post-ROSAT) was at the very least Super Boo tier. And I believe that for Gotenks to become that strong, the gains Goten and Trunks must have to have made individually when training in the ROSAT had be immense. Perhaps reaching SSJ2 tier is really pushing it, but that's just my opinion.

[Roronoa-pt]

New matches:

ROF/DBS Muten Roshi's full power Kamehameha vs Raditz.
Tamborine vs Tenshinhan ( Piccolo Daimao saga )
Muten Roshi vs Cymbal ( Piccolo Daimao saga )

[apex_pretador]

New matches:

ROF/DBS Muten Roshi's full power Kamehameha vs Raditz.
Tamborine vs Tenshinhan ( Piccolo Daimao saga )
Muten Roshi vs Cymbal ( Piccolo Daimao saga )

Raditz dies

Tien destroys tamburine

Roshi with ease, I believe he can take tamburine down with trouble, cymbal is weaker.

[apex_pretador]

Goten and Trunks clear the gauntlet. Their strength skyrocketed after training in the ROSAT.

Enough for them beat FP Perfect Cell and Super Perfect Cell without even needing SSJ2?

SSJ Goten (pre-ROSAT) was strongly implied to be very near the strength of SSJ Teen Gohan. While SSJ Gotenks (post-ROSAT) was at the very least Super Boo tier. And I believe that for Gotenks to become that strong, the gains Goten and Trunks must have to have made individually when training in the ROSAT had be immense. Perhaps reaching SSJ2 tier is really pushing it, but that's just my opinion.

It was implied in current DBS episode that kids are nowhere near piccolo.

[Lord Beerus]

It was implied in current DBS episode that kids are nowhere near piccolo.

Vegeta does also mention that Trunks and Goten can't enter the tournament because fusion isn't allowed. I'm sure if it was, he would have taken Goten and Trunks.

[apex_pretador]

It was implied in current DBS episode that kids are nowhere near piccolo.

Vegeta does also mention that Trunks and Goten can't enter the tournament because fusion isn't allowed. I'm sure if it was, he would have taken Goten and Trunks.

Obviously, because after fusion, they are leagues ahead of piccolo, even in base.

"If you want to enter, get strong on your own."

[Steven Bloodriver]

Super Saiyan Goku (As a child in GT) vs Super Perfect Cell (If had survived the Father Son Kamehameha and regenerated).

Super Saiyan 3 Time Patrol Trunks and Tapion (Both with Brave Swords) vs Super Janemba and Kogu (With Dimension Sword and Devilish Blade respectively).

Super Saiyan 4 Goku (If Goku had achieved the form during his 7 years of training in the Otherworld) vs Super Buu (Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed).

[apex_pretador]

Super Saiyan Goku (As a child in GT) vs Super Perfect Cell (If had survived the Father Son Kamehameha and regenerated).

Super Saiyan 3 Time Patrol Trunks and Tapion (Both with Brave Swords) vs Super Janemba and Kogu (With Dimension Sword and Devilish Blade respectively).

Super Saiyan 4 Goku (If Goku had achieved the form during his 7 years of training in the Otherworld) vs Super Buu (Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed).

- base GT Goku > any version of cell. If goku is allowed to revert back in base, he one-shots.

- Unless this trunks is stronger than goku (Is he?) , their team stands no chance against janemba.

- If this goku went up against base super buu, he might've put up a good fight, but lost. Gotenks buu was the strongest buu (bar buuhan) , and has the best W/L record out of his all forms.

[apex_pretador]

Mystic & majin matchups:


- Mystic krillin (buu arc) VS super saiyan vsgeta (android arc)

- Mystic Raditz vs Freeza (starting from first form , then 2nd , 3rd , 4th , 50% , 100%)

- Majin raditz vs Nappa

- Mystic piccolo (EoZ) vs Majin vegeta (buu arc)

- Mystic freeza (RoF) vs beerus 100%

[DanielSSJ]

Mystic & majin matchups:


- Mystic krillin (buu arc) VS super saiyan vsgeta (android arc)

- Mystic Raditz vs Freeza (starting from first form , then 2nd , 3rd , 4th , 50% , 100%)

- Majin raditz vs Nappa

- Mystic piccolo (EoZ) vs Majin vegeta (buu arc)

- Mystic freeza (RoF) vs beerus 100%

- Kuririn's potential isn't going to be a whole lot, and is, at best, at Freeza's level. Vegeta takes it.
- Hard to say. I don't know if the benefits of the ritual are affected by your current strength or not. If no, then Raditz can conceivably get up to SS3 Goku levels or more. If it is affected by your current strength, then Raditz get's boosted to about a million, wins against 1st form Freeza and maybe against 2nd form Freeza. Even if he can go Oozaru, he's still about a tenth of Freeza's full power.
- I'm fairly certain Raditz has enough hidden potential to get boosted beyond Nappa and maybe even Vegeta.
- Ultimate Piccolo would end up at least on par with Majin Vegeta, probably greater than that.
- Ultimate Freeza = Golden Freeza without the stamina issues. Beerus will still win.

[Hellspawn28]

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

[Lord Beerus]

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

Well, after rewatching the recent episode of Super with the DragonTeam subs, and the implication that Piccolo is now stronger than Goten and Trunks, I'd say he reaches Fat Boo before getting his ass handed to him.

[ZombieVito]

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

We really can't say how much he improved just yet. It totally depends on Gohan's power in this recent episode.

[DanielSSJ]

New matches:

ROF/DBS Muten Roshi's full power Kamehameha vs Raditz.
Tamborine vs Tenshinhan ( Piccolo Daimao saga )
Muten Roshi vs Cymbal ( Piccolo Daimao saga )

- I place Buff Muten Roshi a notch below Nappa, so Raditz is straight f*cked.
- Tenshinhan is more or less on par with Goku, who curb stomped Tambourine. So Tenshinhan curb stomps Tambourine.
- Muten Roshi is gonna take this with mild difficulty.

Super Saiyan Goku (As a child in GT) vs Super Perfect Cell (If had survived the Father Son Kamehameha and regenerated).

Super Saiyan 3 Time Patrol Trunks and Tapion (Both with Brave Swords) vs Super Janemba and Kogu (With Dimension Sword and Devilish Blade respectively).

Super Saiyan 4 Goku (If Goku had achieved the form during his 7 years of training in the Otherworld) vs Super Buu (Gotenks and Piccolo Absorbed).

- Considering base Goku beat a Super Perfect Cell who has been training in hell for a few decades with total ease in GT, I'd say that going Super Saiyan would be overkill.
- Gokua is less than the Cell Games Super Saiyans and my made-up numbers place Tapion below Freeza, so this whole thing comes down to Trunks vs Janemba. Video Game Trunks' strength isn't that clear, but I'm assuming he's around the same level as Boo arc Goku, so Janemba takes this.
- Super Saiyan 4 Goku ends up half as strong as Super Vegetto, but is still a bit stronger than Gohan Boo, much less Gotenks Boo. Goku wins.

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

Piccolo's strength isn't clear yet, but I'll take a crack at this.

Piccolo beats Metal Coola, Super 13, and Aka no problem. He might be able to beat Perfect Cell and Dabra, but everyone else is beyond him.

[apex_pretador]

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

CG piccolo could destroy meta cooler & super 13 with a sneeze.

He was already closing in to perfect cell by RoF. He may be able to beat cell & dabra but marginally.

He beats broly, barely survives. (skill >> power)

SPC is a better fighter than broly, despite being weaker , but is stronger than piccolo (likely). SPC

Not beating fat buu

Maybe manages something

Kid buu destroys the planet

Janemba wrecks

Buuhan absorbs him

Vegetto doesn't even notice he was there

[Roronoa-pt]

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

I'm excluding the filler characters ( from the movies ).
Piccolo beats Dabura ( whose I strongly believe is inferior to Super Perfect Cell ). He also beats Cell.

Fat Buu's strength still not clear to me, since I believe he lost much of his power when the Evil Buu was "released" from him. I do believe the actual Buu's level is somewhat between SSJ2 and SSJ3. Since Piccolo is now stronger than Cell and Buu power is superior to SSJ2 but inferior to SSJ3, Piccolo has a chance.
In his training with Gohan, to me is pretty clear that Gohan regained his mystic powers and the Sayajin/Earthling was having a hard time handling Piccolo. Mystic Gohan was much stronger than SSJ3 Goku and since SSJ3 Goku is now superior to Fat Buu, if you think as I think, that Fat Buu power is smaller compared to the time he fought against SSJ3 Goku, Piccolo can definetly beat the Majin.

Unfortanetly, Namek's prodigy can't do a thing against Buuhan, Kid Buu or Veggeto.

[Khin]

- Ultimate Freeza = Golden Freeza without the stamina issues. Beerus will still win.

Elder Kaioshin's powerup is not just unleashing one's potential.It unleash one's potential beyond their limits.So Ultimate Freeza would be way above than Golden Freeza.

Chapter: 479 (DBZ 285), P10.1-5
Context: Elder Kaioshin explains his ‘ability’
Elder Kaioshin: “With my psychic powers, I can take the hidden power which anyone has, no matter how amazing a master they may be,and draw it wa~~ay, wa~~ay out above their limits. Ehehehehe…Have you ever heard of an ability like that?”
Kaioshin and Kibito: “Oooh!”
Goku: “Wh-what?...Ain’t that the kind of ability you hear about fairly often?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Wh-what are you talking about…?! Above their limits! Above! There de~~efinitely isn’t anyone else that incredible! [ ] Hey, you over there, you were the one who pulled the sword out, right? Come over here a little. If someone could pull that sword out and swing it around, then once I get through with them they’ll de~~efinitely be able to become the best in the universe.”

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

Piccolo was keeping up with Ultimate Gohan.He finger flicks everyone until hitting a brick wall at Gohan-Boo.

It was implied in current DBS episode that kids are nowhere near piccolo.

Piccolo in Champa Arc is way stronger than he was in the Boo Arc.

[Lord Beerus]

Current Piccolo in Super from what we seen so far vs.
Metal Coola (post repairs)
Super #13
Perfect Cell
Dabra
LSSj Movie 10 Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Fat Buu
Aka
Kid Buu
Janemba
Buuhan
SSj Vegito

How far does he go?

Piccolo was keeping up with Ultimate Gohan.He finger flicks everyone until hitting a brick wall at Gohan-Boo.

Huh? That was Base Gohan he was sparring with. Not Ultimate Gohan.

[ZombieVito]

We can't really say for sure if he is Ultimate or not. He does have his ultimate hair though.

@SSJ3 Vegeta: Piccolo is already stronger than Goten and Trunks by the RoF arc since they (Goku and Vegeta) picked him before even seeing him training with Gohan.