The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Zamasu Arc; no time limit) VS Future Zamasu (no immortality)
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Future Zamasu oneshots him, he's nearly SSBlue level.Anime Kitten wrote:Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Zamasu Arc; no time limit) VS Future Zamasu (no immortality)
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Piccolo has a pretty huge advantage over the three Androids, but given that their power never falls, he'd have a tough time fighting all three of them on his own. However, as we see in the movie, Trunks is capable of taking out at least one of them on his own, albeit with high difficulty. As long as they don't merge and become Super Android No. 13, Piccolo and Trunks should win without too much trouble.Angelus wrote:Kamiccolo, SSJ Future Trunks VS Android 13, 14, 15
[Future Trunks is pre-ROSAT]
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Asriel Dreemurr + Omega Flowey Vs Zeno.
End of DB Goku vs Six Paths Naruto and Sasuke.
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Some fights:
- Freeza (true form, Resurrection F) vs. Ultimate Son Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (Boo arc).
- Ginyu-Tagoma vs. Kibitoshin.
- Son Goku ("match level" and wearing weighted clothing, 23rd Budokai) vs. Krillin and Yamcha (23rd Budokai).
- Piccolo (Saiyan arc) vs. 6 of Freeza's goons on Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc).
- Freeza (true form, Resurrection F) vs. Ultimate Son Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (Boo arc).
- Ginyu-Tagoma vs. Kibitoshin.
- Son Goku ("match level" and wearing weighted clothing, 23rd Budokai) vs. Krillin and Yamcha (23rd Budokai).
- Piccolo (Saiyan arc) vs. 6 of Freeza's goons on Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc).
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Android 17 and SSJ Future Trunks with sword VS SSJ Vegeta (power boosted by 5%), SSJ Goku, and Base Future Trunks (first appearance in main timeline; no sword)
[Vegeta and Goku are from Androids Saga; no heart virus]
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1) Super Dragon Ball Heroes vs. Dragon Ball Super.
2) Super Saiyan Blue Vegito (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Current Akira Toriyama.
3) Chuck Norris vs. Merged Zamasu.
2) Super Saiyan Blue Vegito (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Current Akira Toriyama.
3) Chuck Norris vs. Merged Zamasu.
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-Frieza oneshots both.In Brightest Day wrote:Some fights:
- Freeza (true form, Resurrection F) vs. Ultimate Son Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (Boo arc).
- Ginyu-Tagoma vs. Kibitoshin.
- Son Goku ("match level" and wearing weighted clothing, 23rd Budokai) vs. Krillin and Yamcha (23rd Budokai).
- Piccolo (Saiyan arc) vs. 6 of Freeza's goons on Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc).
-Ginyu-Tagoma wins with low difficulty.
-Goku wrecks both easily.
- Piccolo puts up a valiant effort but ultimately dies at Appule's hands.
Android 17 solos with ease.Angelus wrote:Android 17 and SSJ Future Trunks with sword VS SSJ Vegeta (power boosted by 5%), SSJ Goku, and Base Future Trunks (first appearance in main timeline; no sword)
[Vegeta and Goku are from Androids Saga; no heart virus]
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Kamiccolo can take all of them at once.Angelus wrote:Kamiccolo, SSJ Future Trunks VS Android 13, 14, 15
[Future Trunks is pre-ROSAT]
From what is shown, SS Goku = 13 > 15 > 14.
Android 17 >> Trunks + Piccolo + Tien.
While goku is a bit superior to trunks, the gap isn't that large.
I'm going with goku, don't know why.Anime Kitten wrote:Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Zamasu Arc; no time limit) VS Future Zamasu (no immortality)
Final form freeza has a decent advantage over either of them, but not both of them at once. Freeza gets overwhelmed, and beaten down for 5 minutes.In Brightest Day wrote:Some fights:
- Freeza (true form, Resurrection F) vs. Ultimate Son Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (Boo arc).
- Ginyu-Tagoma vs. Kibitoshin.
- Son Goku ("match level" and wearing weighted clothing, 23rd Budokai) vs. Krillin and Yamcha (23rd Budokai).
- Piccolo (Saiyan arc) vs. 6 of Freeza's goons on Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc).
After 5 minutes, gotenks defuses and freeza one-shots the kids. However, he is weakened enough to gohan being able to hold his own.
After a long battle, freeza wins.
Ginyu is superior to cell and weaker than majin buu, but so is kibitoshin. Howevver, ginyu knows how to fight, while kibitoshin is super incompetent. If kibitoshin fights properly and uses the small strength advantage + TK to kill the villain, he wins, otherwise ginyu wins or CHANGE!!!!
I assume you meant goku who fight tenshinhan. If so, Krillin and Yamcha win by ring-out.
We don't have the slightest idea of their power level.
Base trunks is irrelevant here.Angelus wrote:Android 17 and SSJ Future Trunks with sword VS SSJ Vegeta (power boosted by 5%), SSJ Goku, and Base Future Trunks (first appearance in main timeline; no sword)
[Vegeta and Goku are from Androids Saga; no heart virus]
Android 17 beats vegeta and goku at the same time. Trunks isn't needed.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Blue Vegito & Zamasu Black vs Beerus
Genki Dama Trunks vs Beerus
Trunks' sword vs Zangetsu
Genki Dama Trunks vs Beerus
Trunks' sword vs Zangetsu
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Kamiccolo solos.Angelus wrote:Kamiccolo, SSJ Future Trunks VS Android 13, 14, 15
[Future Trunks is pre-ROSAT]
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SSjin4 Gogeta vs. SSjG Goku(Initial)
Super Gotenks is Born | SSjin3 Gotenks > Super Boo | SSjin Gotenks Pre > SSjin3 Goku
Base Gotenks(Pre) = SSjin2 Tier
Base Gotenks(Post) > SSjin Gotenks(Pre)
SSjin2 Gotenks > SSjin Gogeta
SSjin3 Gotenks >>> SSjin2 Gogeta
Base Gotenks(Pre) = SSjin2 Tier
Base Gotenks(Post) > SSjin Gotenks(Pre)
SSjin2 Gotenks > SSjin Gogeta
SSjin3 Gotenks >>> SSjin2 Gogeta
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So hard to tell...Awesome_Gotenks wrote:SSjin4 Gogeta vs. SSjG Goku(Initial)
I put my money on Ssj4 Gogeta.
Future Zamasu is still SsjB level. Goku loses badly.Anime Kitten wrote:Super Saiyan 3 Goku (Zamasu Arc; no time limit) VS Future Zamasu (no immortality)
1. Frieza one-shots both in base, as seen in DB Super.In Brightest Day wrote:Some fights:
- Freeza (true form, Resurrection F) vs. Ultimate Son Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks (Boo arc).
- Ginyu-Tagoma vs. Kibitoshin.
- Son Goku ("match level" and wearing weighted clothing, 23rd Budokai) vs. Krillin and Yamcha (23rd Budokai).
- Piccolo (Saiyan arc) vs. 6 of Freeza's goons on Namek (Raspberry, Appule, etc).
2. Ginyu is Super Perfect Cell tier. Kibitoshin should be higer than that, but I'm not so sure. Pass.
3. Goku with medium effort, due to Krillin of course.
4. Piccolo easily.
1. Beerus easily.AvatarReiko wrote:Blue Vegito & Zamasu Black vs Beerus
Genki Dama Trunks vs Beerus
Trunks' sword vs Zangetsu
2. No clue.
3. See above.
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Keep in mind compared to Potara fusion the dance completely sucks, and SSG Goku surpasses even SSJ3 Vegetto so Goku and Vegeta would have to improve tremendously for SSJ4 Gogeta to reach SSG Goku level, and according to the GT Comics SSJ4 Goku is perhaps as strong as Vegetto so SSJ4 Gogeta and SSG Goku are probably in the same ballpark.Zamasu55 wrote:So hard to tell...Awesome_Gotenks wrote:SSjin4 Gogeta vs. SSjG Goku(Initial)
I put my money on Ssj4 Gogeta.
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This is wrong, because Super Baby Vegeta 1 was stated to have the strongest ki Goku ever felt. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) is much stronger than Ssj Vegito.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Keep in mind compared to Potara fusion the dance completely sucks, and SSG Goku surpasses even SSJ3 Vegetto so Goku and Vegeta would have to improve tremendously for SSJ4 Gogeta to reach SSG Goku level, and according to the GT Comics SSJ4 Goku is perhaps as strong as Vegetto so Gogeta and SSG Goku are probably in the same ballpark.Zamasu55 wrote:So hard to tell...Awesome_Gotenks wrote:SSjin4 Gogeta vs. SSjG Goku(Initial)
I put my money on Ssj4 Gogeta.
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Nobody ever experienced Vegetto's full power, so it would be accurate to say Super Baby Vegeta was the highest ki he ever felt even if Baby ended up weaker than Vegetto.Zamasu55 wrote:This is wrong, because Super Baby Vegeta 1 was stated to have the strongest ki Goku ever felt. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) is much stronger than Ssj Vegito.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Keep in mind compared to Potara fusion the dance completely sucks, and SSG Goku surpasses even SSJ3 Vegetto so Goku and Vegeta would have to improve tremendously for SSJ4 Gogeta to reach SSG Goku level, and according to the GT Comics SSJ4 Goku is perhaps as strong as Vegetto so Gogeta and SSG Goku are probably in the same ballpark.Zamasu55 wrote: So hard to tell...
I put my money on Ssj4 Gogeta.
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Goku knows Vegito's full power. That makes sense, since GT Base Goku was stronger than Ssj3 Goku (Buu saga), and Baby Vegeta (first form) stomped his Ssj3 self who's 400x stronger.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Nobody ever experienced Vegetto's full power, so it would be accurate to say Super Baby Vegeta was the highest ki he ever felt even if Baby ended up weaker than Vegetto.Zamasu55 wrote:This is wrong, because Super Baby Vegeta 1 was stated to have the strongest ki Goku ever felt. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) is much stronger than Ssj Vegito.TheUltimateNinja wrote: Keep in mind compared to Potara fusion the dance completely sucks, and SSG Goku surpasses even SSJ3 Vegetto so Goku and Vegeta would have to improve tremendously for SSJ4 Gogeta to reach SSG Goku level, and according to the GT Comics SSJ4 Goku is perhaps as strong as Vegetto so Gogeta and SSG Goku are probably in the same ballpark.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Base Vegito(current) vs Hit
SSJ2 Vegito vs SSJ Blue Vegeta(Post ROSAT)
SSJ2 Vegito vs SSJ Blue Vegeta(Post ROSAT)
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In GT we don't know if the multipliers are the same as when Goku goes SSJ Rilldo tells him he wasn't using even half of his real power which would suggest SSJ is only a 2-3x multiplier rather 50x.Zamasu55 wrote:Goku knows Vegito's full power. That makes sense, since GT Base Goku was stronger than Ssj3 Goku (Buu saga), and Baby Vegeta (first form) stomped his Ssj3 self who's 400x stronger.TheUltimateNinja wrote:Nobody ever experienced Vegetto's full power, so it would be accurate to say Super Baby Vegeta was the highest ki he ever felt even if Baby ended up weaker than Vegetto.Zamasu55 wrote: This is wrong, because Super Baby Vegeta 1 was stated to have the strongest ki Goku ever felt. Ssj4 Goku (Baby Vegeta saga) is much stronger than Ssj Vegito.
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Yep.TheUltimateNinja wrote:In GT we don't know if the multipliers are the same as when Goku goes SSJ Rilldo tells him he wasn't using even half of his real power which would suggest SSJ is only a 2-3x multiplier rather 50x.Zamasu55 wrote:Goku knows Vegito's full power. That makes sense, since GT Base Goku was stronger than Ssj3 Goku (Buu saga), and Baby Vegeta (first form) stomped his Ssj3 self who's 400x stronger.TheUltimateNinja wrote: Nobody ever experienced Vegetto's full power, so it would be accurate to say Super Baby Vegeta was the highest ki he ever felt even if Baby ended up weaker than Vegetto.
Anyway, i believe the battle between SSjin4 Gogeta and SSjG Goku would be even, since Gogeta kicked away Omega's universal-busting Karma Ball like it was nothing, whereas SSjG Goku and Beerus's shockwaves were said to be Universal+ as well
Super Gotenks is Born | SSjin3 Gotenks > Super Boo | SSjin Gotenks Pre > SSjin3 Goku
Base Gotenks(Pre) = SSjin2 Tier
Base Gotenks(Post) > SSjin Gotenks(Pre)
SSjin2 Gotenks > SSjin Gogeta
SSjin3 Gotenks >>> SSjin2 Gogeta
Base Gotenks(Pre) = SSjin2 Tier
Base Gotenks(Post) > SSjin Gotenks(Pre)
SSjin2 Gotenks > SSjin Gogeta
SSjin3 Gotenks >>> SSjin2 Gogeta