The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:56 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:3% Super Buu vs. SSJ 3 Goku (Buu arc)
Goku powers down to SSJ and vaporises Buu with a Ki attack.

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Post by GogesusSSG » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:50 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:3% Super Buu vs. SSJ 3 Goku (Buu arc)
I think Super Buu would need to be around 10-12% to deal with SS3 Goku, where as 3% would be in SS2 Goku's range.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:40 am

In order to get advantage I think Evil Boo would need 70%. 3% is something Goku can use kaioken x20 to take him over.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by rereboy » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:02 am

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:3% Super Buu vs. SSJ 3 Goku (Buu arc)
Unless you consider Fat Buu to be something like 2% Super Buu, SSJ3 Goku wins easily (unless he gets absorbed somehow, or turned to candy).

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Post by Bullza » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:24 pm

If GT was considered to be another universe then who'd be the weakest character that could beat Beerus?

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:26 pm

Bullza wrote:If GT was considered to be another universe then who'd be the weakest character that could beat Beerus?
No way of knowing. We have no frame of reference for the BoG trio except each other.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by singsing » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:32 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote:
Bullza wrote:If GT was considered to be another universe then who'd be the weakest character that could beat Beerus?
No way of knowing. We have no frame of reference for the BoG trio except each other.
You can follow the SSJ4 Goku ~ SSJ Vegetto, so that at weakest SSG Goku > SSJ4 Goku.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:38 pm

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Bullza wrote:If GT was considered to be another universe then who'd be the weakest character that could beat Beerus?
No way of knowing. We have no frame of reference for the BoG trio except each other.
You can follow the SSJ4 Goku ~ SSJ Vegetto, so that at weakest SSG Goku > SSJ4 Goku.
Yeah, but that doesn't really help when ascribing an upper limit. We don't know how much stronger God Goku is than Vegetto.
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Post by singsing » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:50 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote: Yeah, but that doesn't really help when ascribing an upper limit. We don't know how much stronger God Goku is than Vegetto.
Oh true, I misread the question and thought it said strongest that could beat Vegetto. Welp. From personal bias and inference from Goku saying the unbelievable in another dimension blah blah about SSG and me thinking SSG > SSJ3 Vegetto, it'd take up to Omega Shenron to beat Beerus.

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Post by DBZAOTA482 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:47 pm

Bullza wrote:If GT was considered to be another universe then who'd be the weakest character that could beat Beerus?
Goku, but he's also the strongest who can.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:45 pm

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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:3% Super Buu vs. SSJ 3 Goku (Buu arc)
Unless you consider Fat Buu to be something like 2% Super Buu, SSJ3 Goku wins easily (unless he gets absorbed somehow, or turned to candy).
I have Super Buu 44x stronger than Fat Buu and 34x stronger than Goku

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Post by rereboy » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:14 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:
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SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:3% Super Buu vs. SSJ 3 Goku (Buu arc)
Unless you consider Fat Buu to be something like 2% Super Buu, SSJ3 Goku wins easily (unless he gets absorbed somehow, or turned to candy).
I have Super Buu 44x stronger than Fat Buu and 34x stronger than Goku
I see no reason for that. Even if SSJ Gotenks is 5 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku (which is a huge difference), SSJ3 Gotenks would only be 20 times stronger than SSJ3 Goku, as Super Buu is roughly as strong as SSJ3 Gotenks. But there's no reason for SSJ Gotenks to be that much stronger than Goku.

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Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:22 pm

I use 4x and 5x for SSJ 2 and 3, which is why the gaps end up bigger. I don't have SSJ Gotenks pre that much stronger than Goku.

Back on topic :

SSJ Vegeta (pre Majin) vs. Cell (@ Goku)

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:56 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:SSJ Vegeta (pre Majin) vs. Cell (@ Goku)
Cell wins but barely.

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Post by GogesusSSG » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:50 pm

SSJ2FutureGohan wrote: SSJ Vegeta (pre Majin) vs. Cell (@ Goku)
If this Cell is around the level Dabra was at then Vegeta wasn't exactly impressed by that so, I would give this one to him.

Future #17 vs #13.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:52 pm

Bullza wrote:If GT was considered to be another universe then who'd be the weakest character that could beat Beerus?
3-Star Evil Dragon can freeze him, but there is no way to know if Beerus can break free.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:58 pm

I give it to Future 17. He should be >= Android arc SSJ Vegeta, who was >= Android arc SSJ Goku, who was ~ Android 13.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:23 pm

I think Vegeta would demolish this Cell. Cell at full-power would be a different story, though.

Future #17 wins. I think he's still comfortably stronger than any Super Saiyan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:32 pm

No way of knowing. We have no frame of reference for the BoG trio except each other.


Well if Beerus is a 10 and SSJ God Goku is a 6 then it's probably safe to say that Beerus is at least twice as strong as SSJ3 Vegito.

For simplicities sake let's say Beerus was twice as strong as SSJ3 Vegito from Z. Who would that match him up against from GT? Omega Shenron?
You can follow the SSJ4 Goku ~ SSJ Vegetto


SSJ4 Goku is equal to Super Vegito?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SSJ2FutureGohan » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:08 pm

The GT Perfect Files says Vegetto may be even stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.

But SSJ Vegetto ~ SSJ 4 Goku is contradicted by the show

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