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Yeah that was a joke...
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Sorry could't tell. Either cause it's the internet so I can't sense sarcasm or it wasn't veryRandomGuy96 wrote:Yeah that was a joke...
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We have no idea how strong Bardock was during EoB, since he most likely got a near-death power-up. He should be at least at 90.000 (since it's the minimum number we know that is beyond the Saiyan limits), so in his Super Saiyan form, he should be at least 4.500.000, well above Freeza's 3rd Form, and his initial Final Form power.RandomGuy96 wrote:it still amuses me to think that the legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than Freeza's second form.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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It's unfair to count Bra in a manga sense since she was introduced in the last chapter(s).
I mean, are we talking story wise or their actions?
I mean, are we talking story wise or their actions?
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None of the characters are useless. Everyone comes and serves their purpose and sticks around to remind you that this is an evolving, progressive story.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
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Bardock is uselessdjkalteraphine wrote:None of the characters are useless. Everyone comes and serves their purpose and sticks around to remind you that this is an evolving, progressive story.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
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Interesting paragraph however this is a plot-driven story (the manga, at least) we're talking about so if you don't contribute you're not worth shit. Besides, this folly hasn't bothered you in the past so why start now?djkalteraphine wrote:None of the characters are useless. Everyone comes and serves their purpose and sticks around to remind you that this is an evolving, progressive story.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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You and I are watching a different show, clearly.DBZAOTA482 wrote:Interesting paragraph however this is a plot-driven story (the manga, at least) we're talking about so if you don't contribute you're not worth shit. Besides, this folly hasn't bothered you in the past so why start now?djkalteraphine wrote:None of the characters are useless. Everyone comes and serves their purpose and sticks around to remind you that this is an evolving, progressive story.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
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He is the legendary Super Saiyan who started the Super Saiyan legend, and defeated the space-pirate Chilled, who's also Freeza's ancestor.TheGmGoken wrote:Bardock is useless
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Please don't respond to people this way.djkalteraphine wrote:You and I are watching a different show, clearly.
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He created Son Goku, that's pretty ground-breaking to the story.TheGmGoken wrote:Bardock is uselessdjkalteraphine wrote:None of the characters are useless. Everyone comes and serves their purpose and sticks around to remind you that this is an evolving, progressive story.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
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I'm sorry if this sounds rude but I just hate when people say that. "No he banged *Insert female* to give birth to *Insert important Character*. That's just an excuse reason. Clearly he help give birth to Goku but what did he do with the MAIN plot. Had he not "Fight" Freeza Planet Vegeta would still be destroyed and he would die anyways.Kid Buu wrote:He created Son Goku, that's pretty ground-breaking to the story.TheGmGoken wrote:Bardock is uselessdjkalteraphine wrote:None of the characters are useless. Everyone comes and serves their purpose and sticks around to remind you that this is an evolving, progressive story.
Honestly, this fandom's obsession with "use" is baffling to me. Toriyama made this rich, fun story full of a huge ensemble cast of lovable characters, and so many people just want to shit on it.
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I guess Lunch is useless as she is a one note gag whose purpose in the story wears out almost immediately.
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Not that i have something against Bardock, but wasn't that only "his dimension", because of the fortune-telling powers he had? How would it make sense and add to the timeline otherwise?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:He is the legendary Super Saiyan who started the Super Saiyan legend, and defeated the space-pirate Chilled, who's also Freeza's ancestor.TheGmGoken wrote:Bardock is useless
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But you have to agree that it was pretty cool seeing Freeza having a flashback of Bardock when he was fighting Goku.TheGmGoken wrote: I'm sorry if this sounds rude but I just hate when people say that. "No he banged *Insert female* to give birth to *Insert important Character*. That's just an excuse reason. Clearly he help give birth to Goku but what did he do with the MAIN plot. Had he not "Fight" Freeza Planet Vegeta would still be destroyed and he would die anyways.
In my honest and all-truthfully expressed opinion, that was pretty rad and gave me goosebumps.
Useless or not, I wouldn't have had it any other way.
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Puar, Oolong, Yamcha, Chiaotzu and Hercule all spring to mind.
Puar doesn't really do much apart for what was mentioned in the previous posts, so I won't repeat what was already said.
Oolong didn't do much either, just stopped Pilaf's wish, but anyone could of done that I guess.
Yamcha has some small feats, but in general he isn't very helpful and gets destroyed in most battles.
Chiaotzu wasn't of great help, I mainly remember his failed explosion on Nappa's back and then some training with Tien in the mountains but mostly he does nothing and cooks.
Hercule I feel is only there for comical purposes, someone to laugh at, at the way he talks and acts around his fans and his severe denial of the Z Fighters powers, although he did save the world though twice in my opinion by slightly calming Buu and befriending him and then later when he asks the world to put their hands up because everyone would recognize his voice where as they wouldn't listen to Goku or Vegeta.
Puar doesn't really do much apart for what was mentioned in the previous posts, so I won't repeat what was already said.
Oolong didn't do much either, just stopped Pilaf's wish, but anyone could of done that I guess.
Yamcha has some small feats, but in general he isn't very helpful and gets destroyed in most battles.
Chiaotzu wasn't of great help, I mainly remember his failed explosion on Nappa's back and then some training with Tien in the mountains but mostly he does nothing and cooks.
Hercule I feel is only there for comical purposes, someone to laugh at, at the way he talks and acts around his fans and his severe denial of the Z Fighters powers, although he did save the world though twice in my opinion by slightly calming Buu and befriending him and then later when he asks the world to put their hands up because everyone would recognize his voice where as they wouldn't listen to Goku or Vegeta.
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Absolute most useless would have to be Piano, I think. Wait, did he even die?
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Yeah, I think Goku hit Daimao through a wall and he crushed Piano, or something like that.Saiga wrote:Absolute most useless would have to be Piano, I think. Wait, did he even die?
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Oh, I see. Thanks. I might double check that later, but... it's only Piano.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yeah, I think Goku hit Daimao through a wall and he crushed Piano, or something like that.Saiga wrote:Absolute most useless would have to be Piano, I think. Wait, did he even die?
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Haha, yeah.Saiga wrote:Oh, I see. Thanks. I might double check that later, but... it's only Piano.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Yeah, I think Goku hit Daimao through a wall and he crushed Piano, or something like that.Saiga wrote:Absolute most useless would have to be Piano, I think. Wait, did he even die?
Just checked. It's a few pages into the Goku/Daimao fight. Goku knocks Piccolo into Piano, and Piano never gets up again.
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