Why didn't Dr. Gero give Cell the ability to locate 17 & 18
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Why didn't Dr. Gero give Cell the ability to locate 17 & 18
As we know, Cell's objective from birth was to consume android 17 and 18 so that he could achieve perfection and become complete. Both 17 and 18 do not have PLs as they are androids, which means Cell would have difficulty tracking them down, since he would not be able to sense their ki. Dr. Gero, the genius scientist that he was must have thought of this problem. Why diid he not give Cell the capability to tack the androids down. Think about it. If the androids purposely tried to hind from cell, it would be Impossible for him to find them since he cannot sense them.
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Think of it this way, Dr.Gero wanted to be the "puppet master" and his creations were just his "puppets" .(I know it sounds lame)
To him the androids were just tools to further his goal , He created the androids thinking they will obey his commands , But he was very cautious about everything and would have planed to prevent incase all of them turn against him.
Just like 17 and 18( hence created the deactivation remote) . The chances are if Cell had acted like 17 he needed some back up plan .
Thats just my theory,Who knows what Toriyama was thinking .
To him the androids were just tools to further his goal , He created the androids thinking they will obey his commands , But he was very cautious about everything and would have planed to prevent incase all of them turn against him.
Just like 17 and 18( hence created the deactivation remote) . The chances are if Cell had acted like 17 he needed some back up plan .
Thats just my theory,Who knows what Toriyama was thinking .
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I'm pretty sure Gero didn't intend for 17 and 18 to ditch him and run wild. So Cell shouldn't have needed the ability to track them, Gero expected that they'd be loyally obeying him.
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Perhaps but Gero was prepared for the event that 17 and 18 killing hime hence the remote. He also said that said would not be completed in his lifetime.Also, the way he spoke of Cell implied that he cared for cell. He was his ultimate achievement.Saiga wrote:I'm pretty sure Gero didn't intend for 17 and 18 to ditch him and run wild. So Cell shouldn't have needed the ability to track them, Gero expected that they'd be loyally obeying him.
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He had the remote to AVOID them killing him. He did have precautions in place in case they weren't loyal, but never thought it'd be that bad, and he also thought he could remove such problems by reprogramming them.
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Are you guys forgetting that the Super Computer was the thing that actually finished creating Cell and not Dr. Gero. To answer the question though, maybe he couldn't? The androids from Cell's timeline are likely to have been different than the timeline he goes to. So even if he could have theoretically built something to find the androids it might not have worked once he time traveled. It does kind of raise the question of "In Cell's original timeline how did he know that the androids had been destroyed?".
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Real answer: Toriyama made that story arc up as he went.
Attempt at an In-Universe answer: Dr. Gero was ridiculously arrogant, to the point of idiocy. He continues using the same lab he always had, even though the one thing that could have sunk his plan early on was someone finding his lab and destroying everything (like Bulma suggested). Putting in some sort of tracking device on his creations shouldn't have been difficult, but he didn't think he'd need it.
Attempt at an In-Universe answer: Dr. Gero was ridiculously arrogant, to the point of idiocy. He continues using the same lab he always had, even though the one thing that could have sunk his plan early on was someone finding his lab and destroying everything (like Bulma suggested). Putting in some sort of tracking device on his creations shouldn't have been difficult, but he didn't think he'd need it.
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He probably figured he could just use the controller on them and then let Cell absorb them.
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The controller would have blown them up. Cell never would have attained perfection if Kuririn would have used the controller (Bulma made, but based on Gero designs) to get rid of 18.Polyphase Avatron wrote:He probably figured he could just use the controller on them and then let Cell absorb them.
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I'm pretty sure the controller just shut them down. Isn't that how Gero was saying he got them under control the first time he woke them up.Eddie wrote:The controller would have blown them up. Cell never would have attained perfection if Kuririn would have used the controller (Bulma made, but based on Gero designs) to get rid of 18.Polyphase Avatron wrote:He probably figured he could just use the controller on them and then let Cell absorb them.
I wouldn't doubt that it had a "blow up" button though.
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I'm pretty sure it would only have stopped them/paralyzed them. I recall Krillin saying he would need to stop them with the remote and then destroy them.Eddie wrote:The controller would have blown them up. Cell never would have attained perfection if Kuririn would have used the controller (Bulma made, but based on Gero designs) to get rid of 18.Polyphase Avatron wrote:He probably figured he could just use the controller on them and then let Cell absorb them.
Besides if it would have blown them up, how would Dr. Gero expect to be able to adjust their powers and such, if they rioted and his only Means of stopping them also results in their deaths?
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Yeah, I spaced out on that one. Gero's could also make them sleep. He could blow them up, though. That was the whole purpose of the bombs that Shenlong removed. Kuririn was supposed to blow 18 up.
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Krillin was going to shut her down with the remote. Bulma says the remote would completely stop the Androids.
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Re: Why didn't Dr. Gero give Cell the ability to locate 17 &
Because Cell is not a robot. It's a life being that used something that was found on the android's corpses to fully develop, but he wasn't an android like #16 that could have a specific chip on his head to localize the androids (which were partially machines, and they surely could've had some kind of localizer implanted on them).AvatarReiko wrote:As we know, Cell's objective from birth was to consume android 17 and 18 so that he could achieve perfection and become complete. Both 17 and 18 do not have PLs as they are androids, which means Cell would have difficulty tracking them down, since he would not be able to sense their ki. Dr. Gero, the genius scientist that he was must have thought of this problem. Why diid he not give Cell the capability to tack the androids down. Think about it. If the androids purposely tried to hind from cell, it would be Impossible for him to find them since he cannot sense them.
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Of course Toriyama could've invented a "special cell" to localize the androids, but in that case it's fully understandable that Cell couldn't locate them. All in all, Cell was just a compilation of the best of the best of every fighter he was made of, and none of them had the ability to localize the androids or track them.
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Because the Cell saga doesn't know what common sense is.
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I actually think that Cell's inability to find the other robits, like everyone else trying to sense them, was one of the better plot points of the arc. It hearkened back to the cat and mouse games on Namek and was infinitely better than the arc would have been if Cell was like a NPC boss with haxed AI that could always track you down regardless of what you did.
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How would he do it? When Dr. Gero left Cell, he wasn't in a state to enhance him with technology necessary to track them down, and neither could the computer modify hims, since he had to live into the ground for 3 years to develop his true form. And like others said, the Artificial Humans he created weren't supposed to betray him.
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Kuririn was meant to shut her down as well, and he even thinks to himself that he'll have to destroy the body himself so Cell doesn't absorb her while she's shut down. I guess you could take that to mean he'd destroy her with his own ability or with the remote, but there's only one button on the remote.Eddie wrote:Yeah, I spaced out on that one. Gero's could also make them sleep. He could blow them up, though. That was the whole purpose of the bombs that Shenlong removed. Kuririn was supposed to blow 18 up.
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Press once for shutdown, double-click for self-destruct?Saiga wrote:Kuririn was meant to shut her down as well, and he even thinks to himself that he'll have to destroy the body himself so Cell doesn't absorb her while she's shut down. I guess you could take that to mean he'd destroy her with his own ability or with the remote, but there's only one button on the remote.Eddie wrote:Yeah, I spaced out on that one. Gero's could also make them sleep. He could blow them up, though. That was the whole purpose of the bombs that Shenlong removed. Kuririn was supposed to blow 18 up.
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Besides didn't the scouter only have one button too?
Didn't seem to stop Vegeta from setting an alarm clock amongst other Things.
Didn't seem to stop Vegeta from setting an alarm clock amongst other Things.