What is the power multiplier for Legendary Super Saiyan?
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What is the power multiplier for Legendary Super Saiyan?
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Re: What is the power multiplier for Legendary Super Saiyan?
We don't have any sort of official one. But I also like to think it's basically Broli's own special combination of Super Saiyan 2 and SS Grade 3, so I consider it to grant about the same boost of roughly 100x base as those do. It works.
I've seen some say that it's something insanely large like tens of times stronger than SS1, based on base Gohan fighting SS Broli in movie 10, but as far as I'm concerned that's just the typical "warm up" type of fight that Toei likes to do in the movies.
I've seen some say that it's something insanely large like tens of times stronger than SS1, based on base Gohan fighting SS Broli in movie 10, but as far as I'm concerned that's just the typical "warm up" type of fight that Toei likes to do in the movies.
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Re: What is the power multiplier for Legendary Super Saiyan?
Not sure if it's a multiplier per se, so much as it's an addition to regular SSJ that puts him on par with SSJ2. He has a unique, dark green-haired transformation that's shown to be more powerful than SSJ Vegeta. Going regular SSJ while in this form is what triggered LSSJ. Meanwhile, his base form isn't that much stronger than base Goku. Had Goku gone SSJ2 during the Cell Games, this tells me that Movie 8 LSSJ would be equal to that. Movie 10's LSSJ is between that and SSJ2 Cell Games Gohan.
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As Kaboom and Dayspring noted, the LSSJ doesn't really have a multiplier. But that's part of what makes Broly's transformation seem so unnatural and freakish, you don't really know how much powerful he becomes. You just know that his power is... *sigh*... maximum.
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Legendary Super Saiyan = Super Saiyan Grade 3 imo
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He reached limit of his power in movie 8,,,than he decided to relise the energy to not explode or something...Lord Beerus wrote:As Kaboom and Dayspring noted, the LSSJ doesn't really have a multiplier. But that's part of what makes Broly's transformation seem so unnatural and freakish, you don't really know how much powerful he becomes. You just know that his power is... *sigh*... maximum.
Imo i realy don't know,,,he already proved to be stronger than anyone in just SSJ form so maybe he didn't got stronger when he transformed,,,only thing he could do in LSSJ is push his SSJ beyond it's limit which would explain him against SSJ2 Gohan who still could put up a fight better than any Z fighter in movie 8,,,also Gohan was not a kid and Broly actualy got stronger...
Re: What is the power multiplier for Legendary Super Saiyan?
The multiplier for the Legendary Super Saiyan form is 50 fold.
Now with/after Movie 15, it seems that it doesn't apply anymore (or at least, when mixed with Super Saiyan God powers).
Now with/after Movie 15, it seems that it doesn't apply anymore (or at least, when mixed with Super Saiyan God powers).
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As strong as Toei needs it to be to make him a threat. I know that seems like a cop-out answer, but this is Broly we're talking about.
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That doesn't really apply. Opening post acknowledges the multiplier for the regular Super Saiyan state and is clearly talking about Broli's "special" transformation.Dyno wrote:The multiplier for the Legendary Super Saiyan form is 50 fold.
Now with/after Movie 15, it seems that it doesn't apply anymore (or at least, when mixed with Super Saiyan God powers).
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Ah, that horrible and unnamed transformation movie-only. That form doesn't have an official multiplier.
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Unnamed? It was originally named Super Saiyan Final Form, and then into Legendary Super Saiyan.Dyno wrote:Ah, that horrible and unnamed transformation movie-only.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Super Saiyan Final Form? Never heard of it, where it was name like that?
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In a section of the 2nd TV Special comic adaptation, where it detailed the Super Saiyan forms up to Cell arc. Super Saiyan Full Power was called Super Saiyan Grade 4, and Super Saiyan 2 was called Super Saiyan Grade 5. The "Super Saiyan Full Power" & "Legendary Super Saiyan" terms were used in the Daizenshuu years later, with LSS being reused in the modern video-games to describe Broli's form, and the term "Super Saiyan 2" was later used in the manga.Dyno wrote:Super Saiyan Final Form? Never heard of it, where it was name like that?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Think I have seen the image about it, but it is curious that I haven't even heard of this name in anywhere so far. Thank you for the information.
So it has indeed a name, cool. Let the "Legendary Super Saiyan" to the form it really belongs.
So it has indeed a name, cool. Let the "Legendary Super Saiyan" to the form it really belongs.
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Something > A Super Saiyan that has achieved a different evolution!!
Broli appeared in the movie "Burn Up!! A Red-Hot, Raging, Super Fierce Fight". His final form resembles Super Saiyan Grade Three. But his speed is ultra first-class, and he could be called a Super Saiyan who has achieved a different evolution than Goku and the others!
Broli appeared in the movie "Burn Up!! A Red-Hot, Raging, Super Fierce Fight". His final form resembles Super Saiyan Grade Three. But his speed is ultra first-class, and he could be called a Super Saiyan who has achieved a different evolution than Goku and the others!
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Re: What is the power multiplier for Legendary Super Saiyan?
In a way I kind of like the idea that Broly is just a mutant who "mastered" Super Saiyan Grade 3. So he gets all the benefits of the form without the drawback. However that would mean that there are Grade forms for the other levels (ex: Super Saiyan 3 Grade 3.)
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For the longest time, I agreed. It's even possible his mutation is that he keeps powering up and nothing else. This would counteract the energy drain of Grade 3, while the speed drop can still exist. For example, Grade 2 sees a boost, while Grade 3 sees a loss. Since the others are all in Grade 1, the net value would still be a boost, even though he's seeing the drop like Trunks and Goku's manga Grade 3. The only reason it's an issue is because Cell was faster than Grade 2, so a loss would be detrimental.Bacon Skittles wrote:In a way I kind of like the idea that Broly is just a mutant who "mastered" Super Saiyan Grade 3. So he gets all the benefits of the form without the drawback. However that would mean that there are Grade forms for the other levels (ex: Super Saiyan 3 Grade 3.)
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