Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
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Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Is there an in-universe explanation for why Beerus didn't put an end to the Androids rampage in the future?
Battle of Gods lines up about a year after 17 and 18 killed Gohan, so it seems feasible that he would wake up wondering about the Super Saiyan God, only for Whis to inform him there is only one Super Saiyan left, but his planet is being terrorised by a duo of genocidal Androids. Out of curiosity and his sense of right and wrong, he crushes the Androids and seeks out Trunks.
Any logical reason for why this wouldn't happen?
Kind of inspired by a question asked by Tectorman in another thread.
Battle of Gods lines up about a year after 17 and 18 killed Gohan, so it seems feasible that he would wake up wondering about the Super Saiyan God, only for Whis to inform him there is only one Super Saiyan left, but his planet is being terrorised by a duo of genocidal Androids. Out of curiosity and his sense of right and wrong, he crushes the Androids and seeks out Trunks.
Any logical reason for why this wouldn't happen?
Kind of inspired by a question asked by Tectorman in another thread.
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Whis: "Well, Lord Beerus, it seems Freeza was defeated by a Super Saiyan from Earth named Son Goku while you were asleep. Twice, in fact."
Beerus: "A Super Saiyan? Really. Could he be the Super Saiyan God? Maybe we should go to Earth."
Whis: "Perhaps. The Saiyan has also died, however. He's become a regular student of the North Kaio. There's another Super Saiyan still on Earth too, but he's much weaker than Son Goku is now."
Beerus: "Ah, okay. No reason to waste time going to Earth then. Let's pay the North Kaio a visit."
Beerus: "A Super Saiyan? Really. Could he be the Super Saiyan God? Maybe we should go to Earth."
Whis: "Perhaps. The Saiyan has also died, however. He's become a regular student of the North Kaio. There's another Super Saiyan still on Earth too, but he's much weaker than Son Goku is now."
Beerus: "Ah, okay. No reason to waste time going to Earth then. Let's pay the North Kaio a visit."
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Simple. Beerus didn't wake up, since the Oracle Fish didn't give him a prophecy about Goku, since Goku was destined to die in this timeline. The Oracle Fish can only read the future, not another timeline altogether.
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
On top of the whole "he was asleep" thing, the androids weren't a threat to the cosmos. They were a threat to Earth's way of life, but not even all of the planet, let alone all of existence. They were a significantly smaller threat than Freeza ever was.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Beerus is a neutral character. He doesn't insert himself into conflicts just to take sides and the cyborgs weren't really that big of a threat to the universe for Beerus to have to step. And besides, he ain't got time to deal with cyborgs and shit. Badass super cats need their sleep.
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Do people who die of natural causes even keep their bodies in the other world? Because if they do, the better question is why Goku didn't tell Trunks about the RoSAT...
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Same reason Supreme Kai didn't bother lending a hand against Frieza;
Gods are not selfless, benevolent, all loving beings working for the greater good. Their primary concern is what affects them. The cyborgs weren't bothering him nor were they interesting to him, ergo Beerus has no interest in finding them or putting a stop to them.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
I don't see what that has to do with having a body in the afterlife, but the short answer is that Goku's an idiot. He didn't even think to show Gohan how to go SSJ during that three-year gap.fadeddreams5 wrote:Do people who die of natural causes even keep their bodies in the other world? Because if they do, the better question is why Goku didn't tell Trunks about the RoSAT...
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
You need to reach an emotional breaking point in order to become SSJ. What reason would Gohan have for that? He was barely even an effective training partner.Dayspring wrote:I don't see what that has to do with having a body in the afterlife, but the short answer is that Goku's an idiot. He didn't even think to show Gohan how to go SSJ during that three-year gap.fadeddreams5 wrote:Do people who die of natural causes even keep their bodies in the other world? Because if they do, the better question is why Goku didn't tell Trunks about the RoSAT...
Anyways, Beerus isn't that kind of god. He's no overseer just some purple cat who destroys thing.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
We saw Goku have Gohan imagining Freeza was killing Goku and the others as a catalyst to transform when he and Goku were in the Room of Spirit and Time, so why would it need to be any different if he had tried earlier during those three years?DBZAOTA482 wrote:You need to reach an emotional breaking point in order to become SSJ. What reason would Gohan have for that? He was barely even an effective training partner.Dayspring wrote:I don't see what that has to do with having a body in the afterlife, but the short answer is that Goku's an idiot. He didn't even think to show Gohan how to go SSJ during that three-year gap.fadeddreams5 wrote:Do people who die of natural causes even keep their bodies in the other world? Because if they do, the better question is why Goku didn't tell Trunks about the RoSAT...
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Don't forget Bills only woke up not because of his dream, but because Oracle Fish predicted an "arch-rival" would appear. If "destiny/fate" is already established, then in Trunks' timeline, Oracle Fish didn't forsee anything because there wouldn't be a Super Saiyan God 39 years later. I'm most likely wrong, though. Just wanted to say something interesting/have something to think about.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
When Trunks/Cell went back in time, the timelines were split at the moment they arrived. Everything before that is the same and carried over to the new timelines. So Yogengyo had the prophecy that Beerus got excited over and decided to nap until the time came, but the Super Saiyan God dream likely happened in our "main" timeline after the split.
So in Trunks' timeline, Beerus either didn't have the dream and sought a challenge from elsewhere (and potentially ended up being wrong, like with the idol), or he had the dream and sought out Goku in the afterlife and probably never went to Earth.
So in Trunks' timeline, Beerus either didn't have the dream and sought a challenge from elsewhere (and potentially ended up being wrong, like with the idol), or he had the dream and sought out Goku in the afterlife and probably never went to Earth.
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Beeruses job, is to destroy planets, so that Kai's can recreate them. His job does NOT include making sure there are good people living on any planet. Actually if he ever decided to take care of the Android threat, he would most likely blow up Earth, maybe from orbit, maybe after defeating androids to make fun of them, but he would just destroy it, he does not need much reason to do that. So his help with android threat would actually be worse than leaving the androids living.
Than King Kai would create new planet, maybe identical as earth, maybe a new idea. And that would be it for Earth.
Than King Kai would create new planet, maybe identical as earth, maybe a new idea. And that would be it for Earth.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Why should he even bother?
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Because Toriyama has not created him in that time. He did not existed.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
No because he doesn't give a Shit. Beerus wouldn't give a damn for a single planet. WTF do earthling think they are the center of the universe ?Mnich wrote:Because Toriyama has not created him in that time. He did not existed.
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Given how everything important's more or less happened on it for the past few decades and likely many more stuff in the future, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to say Earth IS the center of the universe.shonenhikada wrote:No because he doesn't give a Shit. Beerus wouldn't give a damn for a single planet. WTF do earthling think they are the center of the universe ?Mnich wrote:Because Toriyama has not created him in that time. He did not existed.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
Define "Everything important", the only important thing that happened on Earth is the fact Buu was hidden there. And even this turned out not to matter that much in the end.ekrolo2 wrote: Given how everything important's more or less happened on it for the past few decades and likely many more stuff in the future, it wouldn't be that much of a stretch to say Earth IS the center of the universe.
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Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
But Goku wouldn't have died as a hero here. He would have died of a sickness. Would that still qualify him for a body and to be trained by King Kai?Kaboom wrote:Whis: "Well, Lord Beerus, it seems Freeza was defeated by a Super Saiyan from Earth named Son Goku while you were asleep. Twice, in fact."
Beerus: "A Super Saiyan? Really. Could he be the Super Saiyan God? Maybe we should go to Earth."
Whis: "Perhaps. The Saiyan has also died, however. He's become a regular student of the North Kaio. There's another Super Saiyan still on Earth too, but he's much weaker than Son Goku is now."
Beerus: "Ah, okay. No reason to waste time going to Earth then. Let's pay the North Kaio a visit."
Re: Why didn't Beerus stop the Androids?
I'd think that regardless of when and how Goku died, his past heroic deeds like saving Earth and defeating Freeza (twice!) would qualify him for afterlife benefits. I don't think you necessarily have to go down in a blaze of glory to be rewarded.
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