- Vegeta NEVER stated in his speech in the Buu arc that he didn't want to be the best/better than Goku anymore. The whole point of that scene was that he simply didnt hate Goku anymore and gets why Goku is Goku. Also, didn't he also declare that he would surpass Goku at the very end of the OG manga?DBZAOTA482 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 11:32 pmVegeta in the DBS anime is still obsessed with being better than Goku which he is supposed to have let go of his grudge against Goku.MrGohanks wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 12:25 pm"Vegeta is much more friendly and conversational in the manga"TobyS wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 8:13 pm
I've been meaning to make my first foray into DB video essays on this topic but no Vegeta is still an overly tsundere weird nutcase despite being like a 50 y.o with kids. He goes SS Blue when someone holds his kids wrong, Vegeta is much more friendly and conversational with the rest of the dragon team in the manga.
It's subtle but it's there. The anime just hams stuff up, like how they make chichi a complete psycho instead of a concerned parent.
No he isn't lol, in fact he's never been shown to be normally friendly to anyone in any DB media, its simply not who he is. And the seen of him going SSB when they hold baby Bra wrong is just a silly gag scene, there's nothing "tsundere" about it you're taking it way too seriously lol.
"Like how they made Chichi a complete psycho instead of a concerned parent"
She's just as psycho in the original manga, the anime never adds anything to characters that wasn't present in the OG manga. Admit it, you just have a clear bias for the manga.
The scene with Bra is obviously meant to be funny but it still exaggerates Vegeta's character in order for it to happen.
The anime adds a bunch of scenes where Chi-Chi is forcing Gohan to study every waking moment even forcing him to study when Goku is bed-ridden and there are killer androids on the loose, and buying weird shit like a study bed.
Chi-Chi in DBS also doesn't let Goten fight at all and rages at the very suggestion but unlike in Z she never calms down or make compromise. It goes against how she was in the Boo arc where she was the who taught Goten how to fight.
Either way, Vegeta is explicitly more obsessed with Goku in the DBS Manga and even GT (where he cheats his way into SSJ4 just to play catch-up) than he is in the DBS Anime (where he pretty much stops thinking about Goku at all once Jiren challenges him).
- "The scene with Bra is obviously meant to be funny but it still exaggerates Vegeta's character in order for it to happen."
Where is the exaggeration? It isn't even a particularly serious scene. I swear, people in this fandom over-scrutinize every little thing Vegeta does while never holding the same standards to any other character, not even the actual protagonist Goku. It's so stupid and annoying.
- The overbearing tiger-mom stuff with Chi-Chi is also in the original manga and in all Post-Z media, sure the Z anime added more scenes with this (which was Toriyama's idea) but the characterization is the exact same in the manga.
- "Chi-Chi never let's Goten fight", she was okay with Goten fighting in the Buu saga because Goku was dead and Gohan already became what she wanted him to be, plus when Buu was around Goten and Trunks was Earth's only defensive against Buu.
This no longer applies to Super, where Goku is back and there's plenty of foes way beyond Goten's level, nor GT where Goten is an adult and can do what he wants.