Vegeta wasn’t warned in the future timeline

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Re: Vegeta wasn’t warned in the future timeline

Post by theherodjl » Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:58 am

Sadala Elite wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:05 am1. King Kai himself didnt know the exact location of New Namek. Goku had to sense the Namekians from Kai's planet to even find it himself.

2. The limitation was that neither Shenron nor Porunga could revive a large group of people at once that have been dead for over a year, not an individual (that's just Shenron).

3. The rest of the Z crew doesnt have the same relationship with King Kai as Goku does. King Kai is never shown doing favors for the other Z crew members.

And there's no reason to assume the Supreme Kais would help against the Androids either (considering that he ignored Freeza, who was terrorizing U7 for decades.)

4. Those are baseless assumptions and GT isnt even canon. And when did Dr. Briefs ever build a confirmed faster ship in the original manga?
1. Kaio found the Namekians after concentrating for a minute and pointed Goku in their general direction. Goku didn't find it on his own.

2. Citation for the time limitation on Porunga please?

3. And how does this answer why Goku didn't ask Kaio for the favor of asking him where New Namek was and giving Bulma directions to it's location? Or even tell Gohan about the ROSAT? Kaio can telepathically communicate to anyone throughout the universe, there's practically no limit on what distance and how many beings he can telepathically link for it. The question is still not answered.

4. GT IS canon as there is no one 'true' canon. There are differences between each continuity but none of them take precedent over the other as though the different continuities "don't count".
Have you forgotten about the fact that Dr. Briefs built Goku a ship to travel to Namek in just under a week and that on that ship, Goku trained in 100x Earth's gravity??? It was in the manga AND anime.
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Re: Vegeta wasn’t warned in the future timeline

Post by Sadala Elite » Fri Jan 31, 2020 5:27 am

theherodjl wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 1:58 am
Sadala Elite wrote: Fri Jan 31, 2020 12:05 am1. King Kai himself didnt know the exact location of New Namek. Goku had to sense the Namekians from Kai's planet to even find it himself.

2. The limitation was that neither Shenron nor Porunga could revive a large group of people at once that have been dead for over a year, not an individual (that's just Shenron).

3. The rest of the Z crew doesnt have the same relationship with King Kai as Goku does. King Kai is never shown doing favors for the other Z crew members.

And there's no reason to assume the Supreme Kais would help against the Androids either (considering that he ignored Freeza, who was terrorizing U7 for decades.)

4. Those are baseless assumptions and GT isnt even canon. And when did Dr. Briefs ever build a confirmed faster ship in the original manga?
1. Kaio found the Namekians after concentrating for a minute and pointed Goku in their general direction. Goku didn't find it on his own.

2. Citation for the time limitation on Porunga please?

3. And how does this answer why Goku didn't ask Kaio for the favor of asking him where New Namek was and giving Bulma directions to it's location? Or even tell Gohan about the ROSAT? Kaio can telepathically communicate to anyone throughout the universe, there's practically no limit on what distance and how many beings he can telepathically link for it. The question is still not answered.

4. GT IS canon as there is no one 'true' canon. There are differences between each continuity but none of them take precedent over the other as though the different continuities "don't count".
Have you forgotten about the fact that Dr. Briefs built Goku a ship to travel to Namek in just under a week and that on that ship, Goku trained in 100x Earth's gravity??? It was in the manga AND anime.
1. That doesnt negate the main point of King Kai not knowing where New Namek was before the Cell Games.

2. It was stated in the OG manga and anime after Porunga gets revived by Shenron.

3 & 4. 1st off, nowhere in Z was Dr. Briefs ever shown or stated to have build a faster ship than the one used to go to Old Namek. You made that up.

2nd off, the lack of fast enough means to reach New Namek in time (given the restrictions) is likely why Future Goku didnt even bother asking King Kai for the directions.

5. And finally, you forgot this last point: The Kais have zero incentive to help out the people of Earth if they themselves arent being threatened. Why would they help against the Androids (who can't ever even leave Earth) if they did nothing against Freeza (who dominated U7)?

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Re: Vegeta wasn’t warned in the future timeline

Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:23 am

theherodjl wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 11:52 pm
Koitsukai wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2020 10:49 pm I'm guessing Vegeta was devastated after Goku's death. So he stayed to challenge him again only now as SS but then Goku died and Vegeta well... that would be a nice spinoff, Vegeta's last days while being dead inside.
You know what would be a better spinoff?
Seeing what the Z Senshi were up to in the afterlife and why exactly none of them felt obliged enough to inform Gohan & Trunks about the ROSAT or New Namek. Kaio lives in the afterlife and could telepathically communicate and offer assistance with anyone in the living world...yet none of them took advantage of that despite being able to travel to Kaio's world whenever.
Trunks' future is just unnecessarily bleak and we still don't have a direct answer as to why everyone just gave up on Earth's fate.
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Re: Vegeta wasn’t warned in the future timeline

Post by blacksymbiote » Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:43 am

I always just assumed the tower was destroyed by the androids so the ROSAT was no longer an option. As to New Namek, they probably couldn't get there fast enough to revive anybody. By the way, wouldn't Vegeta have ended up in Hell in this timeline?

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