Most memorable BS dub lines / names

[ABED]

I'm sorry, but you have to be twisted to the core if that's your response to blowing someone up/skewering him. FUNimation did an exemplary job portraying Freeza as a sadistic, appalling individual that truly relished in the misery he caused others.

But that's not him, he tends to not think it's a big deal as opposed to making silly comments.

[Kaboom]

Freeza isn't the Joker. There's different ways of being portrayed as a homicidal jerk, and cracking stupid and unfunny jokes after killing someone just plain isn't the Freeza way of doing it. He's more like the Penguin or Black Mask, in that for him it's all business.

Besides, the bottom line remains and trumps all else that if it's not what he was saying in the original Japanese, then it's not what he should be saying in English either. Attempts to give things more "flavor" be damned.

[ABED]

Freeza isn't the Joker. There's different ways of being portrayed as a homicidal jerk, and cracking stupid and unfunny jokes after killing someone just plain isn't the Freeza way of doing it. He's more like the Penguin or Black Mask, in that for him it's all business.

Besides, the bottom line remains and trumps all else that if it's not what he was saying in the original Japanese, then it's not what he should be saying in English either. Attempts to give things more "flavor" be damned.

Yes and no, yes, he's not like the Joker who will make jokes as he beats someone to death, but he's not all business either. He's much more laid back about torturing people, though there are times when he takes glee in it, but I don't recall any out and out jokes. Otherwise, I agree, the translation doesn't get the character at all, regardless of whether someone enjoys the embishments or not.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Besides, the bottom line remains and trumps all else that if it's not what he was saying in the original Japanese, then it's not what he should be saying in English either. Attempts to give things more "flavor" be damned.

I dunno...I mean, I agree with this in theory, and fully agree with it about 90% of the time, but I again point towards Android 13 who absolutely has no personality in the original version. In a case like that, I really can't blame FUNi for doing something with the guy...even if it's questionable for anyone, anywhere, to ever think of Goku as a 'city boy'...

In the case of Freeza though, yeah, I fully agree.

[Lord Exor]

There is artistic merit in reversioning a work for a different audience, even if the general consensus on sites like these deems otherwise. I do not believe that someone should be constrained or bridled in the scope of their adaptation for the sake of consistency or accuracy, especially if revisions are subjectively beneficial.

There's a reason the Joker is seen as a far more heinous villain than the Penguin or the Black Mask; mirthfully murdering and torturing others for pleasure is beyond detestable, and dressing it with gleeful repartee is a surefire method of provoking victims. Darth Vader doesn't chortle with perverse exuberance as he kills people--Darth Sidious does, so guess who is more evil?

[ABED]

There is artistic merit in reversioning a work for a different audience, even if the general consensus on sites like these deems otherwise. I do not believe that someone should be constrained or bridled in the scope of their adaptation for the sake of consistency or accuracy, especially if revisions are subjectively beneficial.

How do you figure? The show is the show, the artwork and dialog and story all work together. It's not like they are adapting something whole clothe (for lack of a better word), they have the animation and the characterizations need to work with that. Everything about Freeza speaks of a upper crust aristocrat, not a granny spouting cheesy jokes.

There's a reason the Joker is seen as a far more heinous villain than the Penguin or the Black Mask; mirthfully murdering and torturing others for pleasure is beyond detestable, and dressing it with gleeful repartee is a surefire method of provoking victims. Darth Vader doesn't chortle with perverse exuberance as he kills people--Darth Sidious does, so guess who is more evil?

Joker is pure evil who kills with glee. Freeza has no compunctions about it either. Joker also does things with pinache that Black Mask doesn't. Palpatine doesn't make annoying jokes, he just laughs. As for who is more evil, that's like asking "Who is more evil, Mao or Stalin?"

[Quebaz]

The entire reason you should give the Portuguese dub a watch in 4 videos.

Part 1,2, 3 and 4

Warning, these videos contain: bad acting, so few actors who'll recognize who is voicing who in just 5 minutes, 4th wall jokes, filters for both Cell and Piccolo and António Semedo voicing everyone.

[Sandubadear]

The entire reason you should give the Portuguese dub a watch in 4 videos.

Part 1,2, 3 and 4

Warning, these videos contain: bad acting, so few actors who'll recognize who is voicing who in just 5 minutes, 4th wall jokes, filters for both Cell and Piccolo and António Semedo voicing everyone.

Dodoria: "Só preciso de alguns segundos pra acabar com vocês, meus lindos"

LMFAO

Dodoria sounds like he is singing at the opera.

[Lord Exor]

There is artistic merit in reversioning a work for a different audience, even if the general consensus on sites like these deems otherwise. I do not believe that someone should be constrained or bridled in the scope of their adaptation for the sake of consistency or accuracy, especially if revisions are subjectively beneficial.

How do you figure? The show is the show, the artwork and dialog and story all work together. It's not like they are adapting something whole clothe (for lack of a better word), they have the animation and the characterizations need to work with that. Everything about Freeza speaks of a upper crust aristocrat, not a granny spouting cheesy jokes.

There's a reason the Joker is seen as a far more heinous villain than the Penguin or the Black Mask; mirthfully murdering and torturing others for pleasure is beyond detestable, and dressing it with gleeful repartee is a surefire method of provoking victims. Darth Vader doesn't chortle with perverse exuberance as he kills people--Darth Sidious does, so guess who is more evil?

Joker is pure evil who kills with glee. Freeza has no compunctions about it either. Joker also does things with pinache that Black Mask doesn't. Palpatine doesn't make annoying jokes, he just laughs. As for who is more evil, that's like asking "Who is more evil, Mao or Stalin?"

A few things: First of all, I've never quite managed to comprehend this infatuation with likening Linda Young's Frieza with a "granny." Did your grandmother have an androgynous rasp? Moreover, do you know of any elderly women in your life that do? In all my years on this Earth I have yet to hear anyone whose natural voice resembles Linda Young's Frieza. The stereotypical "smoker" voice also isn't quite analogous--think more Harvey Fierstein. So for the sake of sound debate, let's avoid the embellishments and hyperbole, shall we?

Second, there is absolutely nothing about Linda Young's portrayal that contradicts the visuals of the series. If it's discordant in any way with what you see on-screen, then that's purely an artifact of cognitive bias; you're aware that the interpretation diverts from the Japanese source material, and thus you're inclined to see inconsistencies where there are none. Frieza drinks wine in flashback sequences--that doesn't automatically translate to sesquipedalian loquaciousness and an affable pretense.

Third, it is possible to quantify the maliciousness of fictional characters. Yes, Joker is evil in excess of the likes of the Black Mask; Palpatine is evil in excess of Vader; and FUNimation's take on Frieza is evil in excess of Toriyama's original vision by virtue of simply how thrilled he is to harm people. It isn't just business for him, he sees the excruciating agony of lesser beings as hilarious, and goes out of his way to demean others.

[precita]

A Freeza line I found weird is that when Goku is forming the Spirit Bomb and Piccolo jumps in to kick Freeza out of the way (he was about to shoot Goku in the face), Freeza seems to completely have forgotten about Piccolo.

He says something like, "I spy with my little eye one Namek who seems to have survived." Like...did Freeza completely forget about Piccolo and that he never killed him? He doesn't even seem to recognize him. Was this the same in the original?

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

FUNimation dub:
Every corny Frieza line
Piccolo: "Get outta the tub"
Vegeta: "And I drink plenty of juice"
Vegeta: "This is going to be easier than coloring inside the lines"
Yamcha: "Cat loves food, yeah yeah yeah!"

Ocean dub:
Every line that was written to coincide with the censors ("I see their parachutes")
Vegeta: "Your father was a brilliant scientist Kakarot!"

Big Green dub:
Every line in this dub is painful but one that stands out is when Goku is on King Kai's planet in Movie 8 and he says that before he does anything that he "would really like to EAT" with extreme emphasis on the eat.

Speedy dub:
Piccolo:"GOHAN! BLOW DE WISSLE! BLOW DE WISSLE DAT U PLEY FOAR ME!"
Every other line in this dub

[ABED]

A Freeza line I found weird is that when Goku is forming the Spirit Bomb and Piccolo jumps in to kick Freeza out of the way (he was about to shoot Goku in the face), Freeza seems to completely have forgotten about Piccolo.<br abp="737"><br abp="738">He says something like, "I spy with my little eye one Namek who seems to have survived." Like...did Freeza completely forget about Piccolo and that he never killed him? He doesn't even seem to recognize him. Was this the same in the original?

If i recall, the exact line is "I spy with my little eye, a pitiable Namek who GOT AWAY!!!"

Third, it is possible to quantify the maliciousness of fictional characters. Yes, Joker is evil in excess of the likes of the Black Mask; Palpatine is evil in excess of Vader; and FUNimation's take on Freeza is evil in excess of Toriyama's original vision by virtue of simply how thrilled he is to harm people. It isn't just business for him, he sees the excruciating agony of lesser beings as hilarious, and goes out of his way to demean others.

Sidious is more evil because he was the head of the empire, Vader was a lackey. One who eventually turned on him and saved his son. Now that doesn't absolve Vader of his guilt, it just means he's not pure evil. Palpatine's evil not because he laughs, he's evil because he does horrible things and doesn't care one iota, whereas Vader does have things that he cares about Hurting people isn't business for Freeza in the original, hurting people is like a man stepping on an ant. It's nothing to him.

did your grandmother have an androgynous rasp?

There was nothing androgynous about Linda Young's Freeza. It's clearly a woman and women can be raspy (e.g. Kathlene Turner). I didn't even bring up the rasp. Yes, no one sounds like that, but it's still clear as day that a woman, an older woman at that, is voicing Freeza. Ayres and Nakao have an almost effeminate delivery, but that's about it.

you're aware that the interpretation diverts from the Japanese source material, and thus you're inclined to see inconsistencies where there are none.

No, I'm aware of who the true character is and can see the clash of the visuals. If that's bias, then so be it, it doesn't make it any less true that the visuals don't match the character. Look at Freeza's posture, the way he carries himself, they way he drinks, even his pattern of speech and his choice of words. That's very posh.

[Lord Exor]

Linda Young wasn't elderly when she voiced Frieza, I'm sorry to say.

No, I'm aware of who the true character is and can see the clash of the visuals. If that's bias, then so be it, it doesn't make it any less true that the visuals don't match the character. Look at Freeza's posture, the way he carries himself, they way he drinks, even his pattern of speech and his choice of words. That's very posh.

I see that he's an overlord and gesticulates imperiously, but again, nothing to overtly indicate a fast-talking aficionado of overdone speeches. And forgive me if I'm wrong, but speech patterns and word choice are audio components, are they not?

Oh and Sidious's cackling does indeed accentuate his vile nature; only a true psychopath would bellow a hearty guffaw after murdering someone.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Found one I did not expect:

Krillin: So, if you could fuse together with somebody, anyone in the world, who would it be, I mean hypothetically?
Roshi: Gosh, that is a tough one, but I think I would pick your old girlfriend Marron. Heh.
Krillin: Ha ha! Right on. Bald and beautiful- so deadly!

Oh and Sidious's cackling does indeed accentuate his vile nature; only a true psychopath would bellow a hearty guffaw after murdering someone.

Speaking of, where did that Palpatine quote you sig'd a little while back come from?

[Lord Exor]

Found one I did not expect:

Krillin: So, if you could fuse together with somebody, anyone in the world, who would it be, I mean hypothetically?
Roshi: Gosh, that is a tough one, but I think I would pick your old girlfriend Marron. Heh.
Krillin: Ha ha! Right on. Bald and beautiful- so deadly!

Oh and Sidious's cackling does indeed accentuate his vile nature; only a true psychopath would bellow a hearty guffaw after murdering someone.

Speaking of, where did that Palpatine quote you sig'd a little while back come from?

The Republic Commando novels by Karen Traviss, now unfortunately non-canon.

[ABED]

Linda Young wasn't elderly when she voiced Freeza, I'm sorry to say.

No, I'm aware of who the true character is and can see the clash of the visuals. If that's bias, then so be it, it doesn't make it any less true that the visuals don't match the character. Look at Freeza's posture, the way he carries himself, they way he drinks, even his pattern of speech and his choice of words. That's very posh.

I see that he's an overlord and gesticulates imperiously, but again, nothing to overtly indicate a fast-talking aficionado of overdone speeches. And forgive me if I'm wrong, but speech patterns and word choice are audio components, are they not?

Oh and Sidious's cackling does indeed accentuate his vile nature; only a true psychopath would bellow a hearty guffaw after murdering someone.

She's not elderly, but Freeza does come off as someone considerably older than middle aged. She didn't make him sound like a man in his prime.

Yes, those audio components go with his body language and Freeza is calm in the way that he moves. I'm not sure what you consider gesticulating imperiously. He's not flashy in that manner,

My point was that Sidious wasn't making jokes. Sure, he got off on being evil, but he didn't joke. The true measure of his evil was the fact that he was a dictator who didn't have any pretense about what he was after.

Psychopathic behavior isn't limited to laughing at murder. That wouldn't make you any more evil if you didn't laugh. It could just as easily be matter of fact. Freeza's evil is in that he doesn't give a damn about the lives he takes or ruins. Cheesy lines doesn't accentuate it. It's not interesting, it's not quirky, it's just cheesy and offputting. So many of the stupid lines are just that, stupid, but not in that tongue in cheek way that someone like Quarles from Justified did. The real Freeza is no less psychotic, he's not short on moments where he gets glee from killing people. When he destroyed Planet Vegeta he called the explosion "fireworks". He wasn't joking either, to him it was akin to fireworks and he got joy at the site of it like a child does on the Fourth of July.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Found one I did not expect:

Krillin: So, if you could fuse together with somebody, anyone in the world, who would it be, I mean hypothetically?
Roshi: Gosh, that is a tough one, but I think I would pick your old girlfriend Marron. Heh.
Krillin: Ha ha! Right on. Bald and beautiful- so deadly!

Oh and Sidious's cackling does indeed accentuate his vile nature; only a true psychopath would bellow a hearty guffaw after murdering someone.

Speaking of, where did that Palpatine quote you sig'd a little while back come from?

The Republic Commando novels by Karen Traviss, now unfortunately non-canon.

Karen Traviss was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars since Jar Jar Binks.

[Kamiccolo9]

Karen Traviss was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars since Jar Jar Binks.

Republic Commando actually isn't all that bad. Not nearly as bad as her post-NJO stuff, anyway.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Ok this might be a dead horse but this is complete BS :

"I am the hope of the Universe" - Saiyan Superman

[Lord Exor]

I'm not a huge fan of Traviss myself, but that quote was one of her better offerings.

Yes, those audio components go with his body language and Freeza is calm in the way that he moves. I'm not sure what you consider gesticulating imperiously. He's not flashy in that manner,

My point was that Sidious wasn't making jokes. Sure, he got off on being evil, but he didn't joke. The true measure of his evil was the fact that he was a dictator who didn't have any pretense about what he was after.

Psychopathic behavior isn't limited to laughing at murder. That wouldn't make you any more evil if you didn't laugh. It could just as easily be matter of fact. Freeza's evil is in that he doesn't give a damn about the lives he takes or ruins. Cheesy lines doesn't accentuate it. It's not interesting, it's not quirky, it's just cheesy and offputting. So many of the stupid lines are just that, stupid, but not in that tongue in cheek way that someone like Quarles from Justified did. The real Freeza is no less psychotic, he's not short on moments where he gets glee from killing people. When he destroyed Planet Vegeta he called the explosion "fireworks". He wasn't joking either, to him it was akin to fireworks and he got joy at the site of it like a child does on the Fourth of July.

Frieza's body language in no way belies Linda's portrayal; of all the criticisms that can be leveled against her, that's the least convincing. Dainty mannerisms can also be construed as simply effeminate or gender ambiguous, which is is certainly evocative of Frieza's aesthetics.

Furthermore, a matter-of-fact villain that doesn't take as much pleasure in the violence he/she spreads would be comparatively less monstrous, but no less destructive. We're not only gauging iniquity by effect alone. And if you can't see why spouting "pop goes the weasel"--upon causing someone to violently rupture--is disgustingly reprehensible, then I don't know what to tell you. The jokes aren't corny; they exemplify mood dissonance and showcase just how much of a beast he is. If I said that after blowing up your best friend, your hatred of me would most probably reach a fever pitch; bad enough that I killed him, I'm also making light of it.