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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:38 am

ekrolo2 wrote:Can't wait for all those speculation videos about how the mysterious fighter is 100% either Broly or Bardock.
Why anytime there's something new a good amount of fans assume it has something to do with Broly ?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:39 am

LightBing wrote:Maybe it's an Makaioshin. One can dream.
Nah, the Makaioshins are weaker than the Kaioshins at this point, according to Toriyama.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:41 am

sintzu wrote:Why anytime there's something new a good amount of fans assume it has something to do with Broly ?
There's a weird fixation, a need to shoehorn Broly into everything. I guess it comes mostly from fans obsessed about power levels, as Broly isn't that interesting a character. Or people who have fond memories of the movies.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:43 am

It would be funny if Goku fails the test and Boo doesn't.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:44 am

Wait What test?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:46 am

pacz360 wrote:Wait What test?
Vegeta suggested a simple written test, so dumb monsters won't join the tournament.
Todd Blankenship ‏@Herms98 26m26 minutes ago
Beerus in fact says Whis couldn't participate in the tournament, though he doesn't say why.
Semi-confirmation Whis isn't originally from U7?
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Post by EmmaWinters » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:50 am

Herms98 wrote:The Namekians “shaved down” pieces of these original DBs to create their own. Champa wants to use them to switch U7 and U6's Earths.
If the Namekians used the Super Dragon Balls to create their own, how did God and Muuri pull off making their own sets?
Herms98 wrote:Vegeta even says Gohan probably has the highest potential out of all of them (remember those days?), but Goku says he only studies now.
Can't wait to hear the complaints about this one.
Herms98 wrote:Universe 7 team: Goku, Vegeta, Boo, Piccolo, and "strongest person Beerus ever fought" (who in a shock twist ISN'T Whis).
BUU AND PICCOLO?! That's going to be lots of fun. So glad it isn't a Saiyan team.
Herms98 wrote:Tournament rules same as Tenkaichi Budokai, plus a written test per Vegeta's suggestion
I can't wait to see Goku struggle with this.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:51 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Nah, the Makaioshins are weaker than the Kaioshins at this point, according to Toriyama.
With Vegeta and Freeza getting to such plateau's of strength by training. It wouldn't be impossible for a Makaioshin to get there.

So if this is like Baba's Tournament the supposed order would be:
1st - Piccolo
2nd - Boo
3rd - Vegeta
4th - Goku
5th - New guy/girl

I hope Piccolo isn't there just to get gusted into another planet...; so that the reader can go :o , who ever did that is so strong!
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:52 am

EmmaWinters wrote:
Herms98 wrote:Tournament rules same as Tenkaichi Budokai, plus a written test per Vegeta's suggestion
I can't wait to see Goku struggle with this.
It'll probably be like when Naruto took a test at the beginning of part 1.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by King Jacku » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:58 am

The written test is pretty suspicious. Obviously it SEEMS like it has something to do with Gohan, but I've lost faith. Watch it be a gag moment where Satan has to teach Boo how to write and read.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:00 am

King Jacku wrote:The written test is pretty suspicious. Obviously it SEEMS like it has something to do with Gohan, but I've lost faith. Watch it be a gag moment where Satan has to teach Boo how to write and read.
It's obviously not gonna be something too hard, otherwise Goku wouldn't pass either. I'm sure Boo and Goku are around the same level of intelligence.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:05 am

Doctor. wrote:
It's obviously not gonna be something too hard, otherwise Goku wouldn't pass either. I'm sure Boo and Goku are around the same level of intelligence.
Did Buu ever say a grammatically correct sentence ?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:08 am

Doctor. wrote:I'm sure Boo and Goku are around the same level of intelligence.
Seriously?! Buu can barely express himself properly as a rational being.
Besides, Buu is more of a "dumb strong" kind of fighter, while Goku is a fighting specialist, which does require some level of intelligence. I think SSJ3 Goku vs Buu goes with my point. I don't see them at the same level at all.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:15 am

Araki wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I'm sure Boo and Goku are around the same level of intelligence.
Seriously?! Buu can barely express himself properly as a rational being.
Besides, Buu is more of a "dumb strong" kind of fighter, while Goku is a fighting specialist, which does require some level of intelligence. I think SSJ3 Goku vs Buu goes with my point. I don't see them at the same level at all.
Isnt super buu the smartest version of buu.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Kishido » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:16 am

I will wait for the whole chapter but I do not get one stuff about this Super Dragon Balls.

Why are 6 of them in U6 while one is at U7 and Bulma is searching for it?

Are they shared between the 2 univeres or are there 2 sets of Super Dragon Balls?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ekrolo2 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:17 am

Gohan's contribution is obviously going to be him tutoring Goku and Boo so they don't get murdered on the test.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by SaiyaSith » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:29 am

I'm a little confused about this part. Does Champa have 6 regular Dragon Balls or 6 Super Dragon Balls?

Birusu16's translation:

"Champa says "As expected. A long time ago it was just one huge wish ball that was split into 7. And there is a limit to the wishes.
However, once you assemble the 7 Dragon Balls into one, the scale is different. One is a big as a planet. A Wish Star, if you want. That's how big it is.
And there are no limits, they grant ANY wish. They are called "Super Dragon Balls". Beerus mocks Champa, he still needs another Dragon Ball to create a Super DB."

Herms' translation:

"It's taken Champa "decades" to gather 6 Super DBs (apparently these are all from his universe, but it's not 100% clear)."
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:29 am

Yay Piccolo and Buu!

Also already figured that was one of the things Vegeta likes about Bulma, but interesting to get confirmation about Gokû having a thing for how strong willed Chi-Chi is. His preferences haven't come up before.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:30 am

I hope Whis helps Piccolo become a god,using the namekian book of legends. They shouldn't just say, do your best weakling....I want Piccolo to wreck some shit again.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:33 am

SaiyaSith wrote:I'm a little confused about this part. Does Champa have 6 regular Dragon Balls or 6 Super Dragon Balls?

Birusu16's translation:

"Champa says "As expected. A long time ago it was just one huge wish ball that was split into 7. And there is a limit to the wishes.
However, once you assemble the 7 Dragon Balls into one, the scale is different. One is a big as a planet. A Wish Star, if you want. That's how big it is.
And there are no limits, they grant ANY wish. They are called "Super Dragon Balls". Beerus mocks Champa, he still needs another Dragon Ball to create a Super DB."

Herms' translation:

"It's taken Champa "decades" to gather 6 Super DBs (apparently these are all from his universe, but it's not 100% clear)."
That first one was fake, ignore it. They are all giant sized, Champa has six of those, and there's nothing about them splitting or needing to put together.
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