"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by fadeddreams5 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:41 pm

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fadeddreams5 wrote:How in Kami's name do you "collect" planets?

Did the Namekian's shave fragments from one of them, or did they actually find them all throughout the universe (wtf...)?

Will they have repercussions after usage?!

So many questions! If they end up being perfect in every way, I'll feel that's very lame. It would have been MUCH preferable if there were 12 Super Dragon Balls. One in each individual universe.
I'm guessing they took pieces from one of them. They're planet sized, a house-sized chunk would be more than sufficient :lol:

That would eliminate the potential all the other universes have. It would mean that if one arc is about the Super DBs, then they'd have to explore all 12 universes in that arc, and that's be incredibly rushed and boring. Plus, it wouldn't make sense considering the rules of how the universes work, namekians don't exist outside of universe 6 and 7.
They could originate from other universes, but already have been collected by Champa off-screen, so no need to go to other universes. These dragon balls might not be affiliated to namekians. >.>
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TKA » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:36 am

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Except for the fact that it was noted that Bardock and Gine's relationship was odd? Not to mention that we saw very little of Gine. For all we know, she may have been pretty spunky and strong-willed personality-wise (just not in the situation that we saw), while still not really being a fighter.
Your first point is the only real legit thing. The second one defies occam's razor. She's presented as Saiyan Mother Teresa.

It bothers me that Goku's parentage is "odd" because he's supposed to be typical low-class garbage and not special. But this is probably off-topic in regards to this thread, no?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Rozay » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:53 pm

I might be in the smaller group, but I for one REALLY like that Piccolo, Buu, and a new character round out the group. That was the thing that excited me the most about this tournament. Especially Piccolo. Because while, yeah, Gohan is technically stronger than both, three saiyajins would feel kind of boring to me. Plus, if Majin Buu is a long shot to be any kind of relevant, the humans... well...

I really wish Piccolo and Buu weren't going to be the jobbers though (especially Piccolo), but yet we know they most likely are there to do just that. At least Piccolo could get a power-up, though the timeline of five days doesn't particularly suggest anything substantial can be achieved.

Also... I was not on board with this "parallel universes" theme, because of the possibilities it gives Toriyama to simply copy characters and reverse personalities or something along those lines. So, I was REALLY fearful hearing about the "Universe 6 saiyajins". Though also excited, because of course that opens up many possibilities. I hope Toriyama doesn't go all "Saint Seiya Lost Canvas" on us. But it's not entirely out of possibility.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FoolsGil » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:47 pm

I also have no problem with Buu and Piccolo fighting. Especially Buu. It's easier to kill Goku than it is to kill Buu.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Sun Nov 29, 2015 7:54 am

My prediction for the tournament.

1rst Round:
Goku vs. U6 guy = Goku loses
Mysterious 5th member vs. U6 guy = The 5th member wins
Piccolo vs. U6 guy = Piccolo wins
Buu vs. U6 guy = Buu loses
Vegeta vs. U6 guy = Vegeta wins

2nd round:
The guy who beat Goku vs. the 5th member = The 5th member wins
Piccolo vs. The guy who beat Buu = Piccolo loses
The guy who beats Piccolo and Buu vs. Vegeta = Vegeta loses

Finals:
The guy who beats Vegeta vs. The 5th member = The 5th member loses

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Rozay » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:01 am

I'm guessing this tournament is composed of five battles only and whichever team wins the most battles, wins. My guess is that Goku, Vegeta and the strongest guy Beerus faced win, and Piccolo and Buu lose. Predictable, yeah.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Khin » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:03 am

Rozay wrote:I'm guessing this tournament is composed of five battles only and whichever team wins the most battles, wins. My guess is that Goku, Vegeta and the strongest guy Beerus faced win, and Piccolo and Buu lose. Predictable, yeah.
yeah,that is far too predictable,knowing Toriyama,he would probably make Goku fight first and then make him lose.And I'm 80% sure that the Universe 6 team would win.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:08 am

Goku's been losing a lot of battles recently, not sure if Toriyama would make him lose again.

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Post by Sandubadear » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:15 am

Goku must lose, otherwise the "strongest guy" won't even fight, and I totally want to see him fight.
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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:29 am

Let's hope this arc makes up for super's first 2 disappointments....Although the new guy already makes a inconsistency....unless they fix it,because goku's supposed to be the 2nd strongest beerus ever fought.....Whis trained beerus so they had to have fought..... meaning goku would have to be at best third best. Let's also the new charatcers have some good personalities,Whis is okay but beerus is one I don't like. Maybe some females. No more always angry woman though,I feel like all the girls in dragonball save for blue launch are the exact same. (90% the same anyways.)
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Post by Kuririn Fan » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:31 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Let's hope this arc makes up for super's first 2 disappointments....Although the new guy already makes a inconsistency....unless they fix it,because goku's supposed to be the 2nd strongest beerus ever fought.....Whis trained beerus so they had to have fought..... meaning goku would have to be at best third best. Let's also the new charatcers have some good personalities,Whis is okay but beerus is one I don't like. Maybe some females. No more always angry woman though,I feel like all the girls in dragonball save for blue launch are the exact same. (90% the same anyways.)
Goku is the second strongest, not counting Whis. And then this new guy is the strongest.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sandubadear » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:42 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Let's hope this arc makes up for super's first 2 disappointments....Although the new guy already makes a inconsistency....unless they fix it,because goku's supposed to be the 2nd strongest beerus ever fought.....Whis trained beerus so they had to have fought..... meaning goku would have to be at best third best. Let's also the new charatcers have some good personalities,Whis is okay but beerus is one I don't like. Maybe some females. No more always angry woman though,I feel like all the girls in dragonball save for blue launch are the exact same. (90% the same anyways.)
Whis doesn't count for some reason. Goku also thought that Whis was the strongest ever fought, so everyone was fooled.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:46 am

Did they say not counting Whis? I didn't see that in the subs I saw.....if so that's another flaw with no streaming. Thanks Toei for great business savy.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:23 pm

Goku has always made it to the finals every time a tournament is done. He did in the 21st TB. He did with Baba's fighters. He did in the 22nd TB. He did in the 23rd TB. So it's pretty likely he'll be in the final fight. He still could lose that as history has shown.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:27 pm

The chapter honestly was really good,sad this isn't weekly. I really hope champa's team is done right. Hopefully at least 1 female saiyan. One with a better personality then fasha.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:28 pm

People keep seeing people going in circles every few by discussing tournament "rounds", but that's not how the tournament has been set up. It's supposed to be set up like the Uranai Baba matches.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:38 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:People keep seeing people going in circles every few by discussing tournament "rounds", but that's not how the tournament has been set up. It's supposed to be set up like the Uranai Baba matches.

Well the way champa made his ring was a lot like cell,and it was a lot like the world tournament with stand and everything. (which makes me think people will be there to watch?)

The scan I read didn't go into muc hdetail about how it goes down,just that it's 5v5. Don't forget they aren't selling these yet,people get different scans until they give us ways to buy this.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:46 pm

What? They are selling the only version that matters in this instance, the original Japanese. Herms has read the text. The implication, in addition to the rest of the basic information, is a match set up like Uranai Baba's tournament, based on the terminology used to discuss the team captains as in judo or kendo.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:47 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:What? They are selling the only version that matters in this instance, the original Japanese. Herms has read the text. The implication is a match set up like Uranai Baba's tournament, based on the terminology used to discuss the team captains.

I mean sold for the world,not just the Japanese. No reason they cant ship em out and translate em quickly. ANd I know about his translations,I mean for the majority on why people are in circles as you say,not everyone is reading the same chapter translation. :)
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:57 pm

It's not even about the translations people are reading away from this site. It would start doing the forums a lot of good if some of the members actually bothered to read what their fellow members were saying here before posting. I understand if they can't read every page, especially in some of the faster moving threads like this one. But it only takes a minute or two to skim at least the last page or two of a thread instead of just going "I didn't read anything prior to this, so sorry if it's been brought up already, but I think..."

I means some of the questions being asked are literally answered in the post above theirs. It's getting ridiculous to try and have a conversation here at some points.
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