"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

[Ajay]

Judging from some thick lines I saw on the art from Episode 23, I think the animator supervisor will be Seizo Toma or Naoki Tate.

The episode looks far too ugly to be Toma (also I don't think the line-art really matches his style), and it's much too soon to be Tate. It could be Ishikawa or someone new entirely.

[kinisking]

I dont understand the hate for NEP. It looks more than fine to me. If someone could maybe show screenshots of what they dont like I would understand better

[Ajay]

I dont understand the hate for NEP. It looks more than fine to me. If someone could maybe show screenshots of what they dont like I would understand better

Sure. Here's some keyframes from the preview:

Spoiler:

They're not totally awful, but they're not great. I think it's going to be a mixed bag.

[Chuquita]

I do appreciate whoever decided to change the pressure setting on their tablet pen so their line-art has varying degrees of thickness. That's one of the things I'm sorely missing from DB and Z. You loose style when all the line-art is uniform in thickness.

[Sodhi]

So will super be affected by this or no?

[Chuquita]

Probably. OP's movies get more love put into them than the weekly OP TV series does. I don't know to what extent we'll be hit though--there are others on the forum who could better answer just how badly Super will be affected.

[Sodhi]

Probably. OP's movies get more love put into them than the weekly OP TV series does. I don't know to what extent we'll be hit though--there are others on the forum who could better answer just how badly Super will be affected.

I am so jealous of One Piece right now.

[raulvalente]

Let's at least hope that this won't affect any fight episodes production, or that Toei manages to find a schedule that won't be so hard for DBS.

[LightBing]

A new One Piece movie ..., that's a bad sign for Super's animation. Not matter how much I enjoy One Piece, Dragon Ball will always be ahead of it. This also greatly reduces the changes of this month's announcement being a DB movie.

[Lord Beerus]

A new One Piece movie ..., that's a bad sign for Super's animation. Not matter how much I enjoy One Piece, Dragon Ball will always be ahead of it. This also greatly reduces the changes of this month's announcement being a DB movie.

Why? There's nothing to say that a Dragon Ball Movie can't happen a year or two after a One Piece movie. Hell, Battle Of Gods was released only four months after One Piece Film Z.

[LightBing]

A new One Piece movie ..., that's a bad sign for Super's animation. Not matter how much I enjoy One Piece, Dragon Ball will always be ahead of it. This also greatly reduces the changes of this month's announcement being a DB movie.

Why? There's nothing to say that a Dragon Ball Movie can't happen a year or two after a One Piece movie. Hell, Battle Of Gods was released only four months after One Piece Film Z.

Wouldn't the announcement be to soon? The hype and build up would die, if he had to wait one year or more.

[JulieYBM]

Watanabe Koudai, who worked on Dragon Ball Z: Fukkatsu no F and Dragon Ball Super Opening #1, is the animation supervisor for Go! Princess PreCure Episode #47. Don't expect him back on Dragon Ball for a while, especially if he sticks around to work on the final episode, Episode #50.

[FortuneSSJ]

Why? There's nothing to say that a Dragon Ball Movie can't happen a year or two after a One Piece movie. Hell, Battle Of Gods was released only four months after One Piece Film Z.

The production quality difference of those two movies are like day and night.

[Chuquita]

Toei definitely favors One Piece when it comes to movies. Fortunately for me they favor Precure when it comes to weekly series and that prevents me from being completely jealous of One Piece. (And keeps me from disliking it too.)

I like Precure way more than One Piece.
I like DB the most of the three though.

[JulieYBM]

The PreCure movies also have a history of being better than the One Piece movies, especially the last two where Oda has demanded that the characters always remain on model.

[Chuquita]

The PreCure movies also have a history of being better than the One Piece movies, especially the last two where Oda has demanded that the characters always remain on model.

Oda's not a fan of smears or squash and stretch? 0_0
That's surprising considering how much Disney influence is in his artwork. His snakes are right out of Disney's The Jungle Book.

I'd wonder what Toriyama's thoughts on "on model" are, but I think he probably wouldn't care as long as he doesn't have to be the one drawing it. I could be wrong though.

[JulieYBM]

I'm going by what @Sun_Chopper has said but it is worth nothing that the last two films have been mostly devoid of animation that breaks from the models by Satou Masayuki. I believe Satou has been praised by Oda for being able to draw like him, too.

[Theophrastus]

The PreCure movies also have a history of being better than the One Piece movies, especially the last two where Oda has demanded that the characters always remain on model.

Did having to stay on-model actually cause the animation in Strong World and Film Z to suffer any (I actually haven't watched them)? Or are you just against the principle of forcing the key animators to draw a certain way because it stifles the expression of their own creativity?

[Araki]

Did having to stay on-model actually cause the animation in Strong World and Film Z to suffer any (I actually haven't watched them)? Or are you just against the principle of forcing the key animators to draw a certain way because it stifles the expression of their own creativity?

It's entirely subjective, Film Z has clearly great production values. It's probably the best-looking Toei animation movie i ever watched.

Many people have a bad reaction whenever everything goes off-model for the sake of animation, and it's an understandable decision, as styles suddenly changing in the middle of a movie can be off-putting to a fair share of the audience. I mean, One Piece is so well known and relevant in Japan now that i doubt we would ever see something like the movie 6 by Mamoru Hosoda again, don't matter if Oda had a say in the matter or not. Dragon Ball isn't much different.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Apparently a South Korean studio named "art on" is contributing backgrounds to Super.