"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by raulvalente » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:56 pm

The last episode Naoki Tate supervised was #18, right? Does that mean that he had enough time to properly supervise the drawings and correct the ones that needed correction for Episode #25?

Sorry for this type of questions, I'm just curious about anime production aspects. I find them very interesting to discuss. How much time would be ideal for presenting a good-looking episode in Super terms?

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Post by Sodhi » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:52 pm

raulvalente wrote:The last episode Naoki Tate supervised was #18, right? Does that mean that he had enough time to properly supervise the drawings and correct the ones that needed correction for Episode #25?

Sorry for this type of questions, I'm just curious about anime production aspects. I find them very interesting to discuss. How much time would be ideal for presenting a good-looking episode in Super terms?
Not only that Naoki Tate did the 2nd most key animation for episode 23, so his episode will likely suffer. By suffer I mean it wont be his best because of time constraint.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:52 pm

raulvalente wrote:The last episode Naoki Tate supervised was #18, right? Does that mean that he had enough time to properly supervise the drawings and correct the ones that needed correction for Episode #25?

Sorry for this type of questions, I'm just curious about anime production aspects. I find them very interesting to discuss. How much time would be ideal for presenting a good-looking episode in Super terms?
Since Tate did key animation for Episode #23 I do expect Episode #25 to suffer should he be the only good animator. At least based on the preview we know he will be personally handling the Kamehame-Ha scene.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:10 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Shida hasn't been an animation supervisor for anything in ten years, other than key animation he only storyboards for other directors. I do wish Shida would be a supervisor for at least one episode. He was supervisor for the Openings of the 1990s game openings.
But we can still expect something from him right?! I'm not following One Piece. The last things I know from him Is Sabo getting the mera mera fruit and a part of the last Once Piece opening.

Isn't this from him?!
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Post by Sodhi » Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:54 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote: But we can still expect something from him right?! I'm not following One Piece. The last things I know from him Is Sabo getting the mera mera fruit and a part of the last Once Piece opening.
Last thing he did in terms of animation was this
https://sakuga.yshi.org/post/show/17429 ... i_shida-on
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Nope its not from him, its from a key animator named Takahashi Yuya.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Dec 22, 2015 2:20 am

Yes, that was Takahashi Yuuya, probably paying a heavy tribute to Shida's scene from the film. The cool part in Episode #14 is by Oonishi Ryou, who did the Super Saiyan God transformation in the movie, too.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:21 pm

Oh I see. I need more tributes to Shida then. :lol:
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:31 am

Getting Shida to do something himself would be nice. Hopefully Hayashi will come back and do something better than his Episode #2 cuts.
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:05 am

If they really do farm more CGI into next year's Precure, is it possible it might free up some of the animators who do multiple Toei series to come do some stuff for Super?
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:21 pm

Chuquita wrote:If they really do farm more CGI into next year's Precure, is it possible it might free up some of the animators who do multiple Toei series to come do some stuff for Super?
Depends. I do not necessarily foresee PreCure using more CG with the next series, but it depends on the series director. More CG also will not necessarily mean less work for good animators, either. Folks will continue to work where they like. Majin Bone was CG heavy but Toei still produced a half dozen series instead of giving staff more time.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Michsi » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:33 pm

Aside from One Piece, PreCure, World Trigger, Robot Girls Z and DBS what other shows are they currently producing? I looked at their Wikipedia page and to me it seems they had a lot more shows running alongside DB and DBZ in the late '80s, early '90s. Actually the entire section for "2010 - present " seems kinda meager compared to the previous decades.

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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:38 pm

The Wiki page is poorly formated. Toei is producing Kindaichi, the new PreCure, One Piece Film Gold and probably some other little things I am forgeotting about.
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Post by Basaku » Wed Dec 23, 2015 1:53 pm

Likely Sailor Moon Crystal Season 3 already or soon-to-enter production

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Post by Michsi » Wed Dec 23, 2015 2:23 pm

JulieYBM wrote:The Wiki page is poorly formated. Toei is producing Kindaichi, the new PreCure, One Piece Film Gold and probably some other little things I am forgeotting about.

I already mentioned PreCure. And even if it's poorly formated, is the information incorrect ? I think I could see around 5/6 series being done during the 1990/1991-1992 period.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:10 pm

Michsi wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:The Wiki page is poorly formated. Toei is producing Kindaichi, the new PreCure, One Piece Film Gold and probably some other little things I am forgeotting about.

I already mentioned PreCure. And even if it's poorly formated, is the information incorrect ? I think I could see around 5/6 series being done during the 1990/1991-1992 period.
Try the Japanese Wiki. Also, Maho Tsukai is like having an additional series in production, so it is something to keep in mind. Toei is very busy right now, especially with movies in production.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by Michsi » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:26 pm

I don't understand Japanese to cross-check with the English one, but again, they seemed fairly busy back then too.

Either way, some quality management is in order if they bit off more than they can chew, but if what people are saying is true about good merchandise sales then I guess they have no reason to change their policy.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Wed Dec 23, 2015 3:38 pm

Toei is the only studio strong enough to handle so many series at once but even then planning is so very important. OLM handles multiple series at once but scheduling is good there, so the series are better off.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by coola » Thu Dec 24, 2015 6:09 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnYi4CjcAFY Thank you for your sacrifice, Mr. Toriyama :)
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:06 am

coola wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnYi4CjcAFY Thank you for your sacrifice, Mr. Toriyama :)
Seriously?! That joke went way too far now.
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

Post by coola » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:41 am

I know i keep repeating myself, but i just don't get it, Toei have in it's hands license to one of the most popular anime series of all time, yes, i get and understand, that anime is mostly used as commercial for merchandise, anime such as Creamy Mami did that too, to promote then new strategy known as media mix, and there was lot of care put into it, and next Studio Pierrot anime in that line. It is Dragon Ball, for god sake. If i were head director, i would make sure to produce as best looking anime as possible, even having to hire animators/scenarists, just for Dragon Ball Super.
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