Parts TFS did better than actual anime?

[Saturnine]

What they did better? Well, the pacing, the dialogue, the humor, the badassery and the characterization. Of course they have tons of liberties the anime makers and dubbers didn't have so it's not a fair comparison, but I would indeed say that the product itself is more entertaining than the anime. Unless you want to see full fights, then of course the anime is the way to go.

[Man-Child]

I'd say Team Four Star's original comedic dialogue for Z is much better than any of Funimation's attempts.

[jcogginsa]

The TFS versions of the Androids are done very well.

[ABED]

It's a parody, so none of it. It's akin to asking "Which part of Star Wars did Spaceballs do better"?

[Dbzfan94]

What they did better? Well, the pacing, the dialogue, the humor, the badassery and the characterization. Of course they have tons of liberties the anime makers and dubbers didn't have so it's not a fair comparison, but I would indeed say that the product itself is more entertaining than the anime. Unless you want to see full fights, then of course the anime is the way to go.

I'm confused about this. TFS has the better characterization of the anime/manga when TFS's characters are usually exaggerated or completely changed?

[jcogginsa]

What they did better? Well, the pacing, the dialogue, the humor, the badassery and the characterization. Of course they have tons of liberties the anime makers and dubbers didn't have so it's not a fair comparison, but I would indeed say that the product itself is more entertaining than the anime. Unless you want to see full fights, then of course the anime is the way to go.

I'm confused about this. TFS has the better characterization of the anime/manga when TFS's characters are usually exaggerated or completely changed?

Exaggeration doesn't equal bad.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

This thread is really terrible just like TFS and most of TFS is not even entertaining.
Answer: Nothing
Also most of what TFS does only provides cancer such as this thread,things like Goku is an bad parent, and annoying memes.
I saw an comment on an forum once on this subject to that Goku is an bad parent and pretty much sums TFS in general.
"Just idiots who clinged onto the meme "hurr durr Goku is a bad parent" after watching too much Team Four Star rather than reading the manga:
>Spent the first four years of his son's life, raising him with Chi-Chi.
>Brother from space comes and kidnaps his son.
>Dies trying to protect his child.
>Son is abducted by nemesis and forced to train to fight bigger threats.
>Goku comes back from the dead to protect friends and family after a year.
>Threat is defeated, Goku is hospitalized.
>Gohan then leaves Earth in search of namek. Gohan leaves his father.
>Goku, after a few days, is healed and follows after son.
>Arrives in Namek, saves his son from being killed by the Ginyu Force, ends up being beaten to near-death again, gets put in a healing pod.
>The instant he is healed he jumps into action to protect son and friends.
>Turns Super Saiyan, tells his son to get off the planet as he protects them from Freeza.
>They think he's dead, they wait for the 2nd round on the Namekian Dragon Balls to revive him.
>He's not dead, but he's off learning Shunkan Ido, which would be very important later on in the story.
>Shows up on time anyway.
>Spends the next few years training with Gohan, which Gohan insisted on joining to stop the Cyborgs.
>Spends another year with Gohan in the RoSaT.
>Spends the last few days on family vacation with Gohan and Chi-Chi before the Cell Games is about begin.
>Cell Games has finally arrived.
>Goku knows Gohan is the only one who is strong enough to beat Cell.
>Everyone thinks Goku is a nutjob.
>Goku is right all along.
>Gohan is a jobber and fucks up by torturing Cell rather than kill him, tries to blow up Earth.
>Goku saves everyone again and gets killed again.
>Asks not to be wished back again to life, thinking him being alive is the reason why bad guys keep coming. Bulma and King Kai agrees.
>Goku, Bulma and King Kai were right, 7 years of peace were followed while he was dead.
>On the fucking day he comes back to the living world there is another threat that could destroy the world."

Also this to:"B-But Team Four Star said he's a bad father! They have over one million subscribers! I need to listen to them!"
As well as nerds who think memes are actually funny.

[Silver Sinspawn]

I don't think anything is better in DBZ Abridged. That being said, the way the characterize Imperfect Cell (earlier on at least) is a nice touch, it gives him an extra helping of "serial killer style".

[Dbzfan94]

What they did better? Well, the pacing, the dialogue, the humor, the badassery and the characterization. Of course they have tons of liberties the anime makers and dubbers didn't have so it's not a fair comparison, but I would indeed say that the product itself is more entertaining than the anime. Unless you want to see full fights, then of course the anime is the way to go.

I'm confused about this. TFS has the better characterization of the anime/manga when TFS's characters are usually exaggerated or completely changed?

Exaggeration doesn't equal bad.

I never said it was. But that doesn't make it better either

[Ree]

...they get more views??? cant think of anything else

[jcogginsa]

...they get more views??? cant think of anything else

The androids

[coola]

>Everyone thinks Goku is a nutjob.
>On the fucking day he comes back to the living world there is another threat that could destroy the world."

- He is, for giving Cell Senzu Bean, not realising, that Gohan is not fighter like he is (Piccolo figured it out, despite spending less thime with Gohan)
- Threat, with would be ended with ease, if Goku didn't decide to make Vegeta happy (If Goku didn't return, Vegeta and Gohan would easiy kill Dabura and then Babidi)

[ABED]

>Everyone thinks Goku is a nutjob.
>On the fucking day he comes back to the living world there is another threat that could destroy the world."

- He is, for giving Cell Senzu Bean, not realising, that Gohan is not fighter like he is (piccolo figured it out, despite spending less thime with Gohan)
- Threat, with would be ended with ease, if Goku didn't decide to make Veget a happy (If Goku didn't return, Vegeta and Gohan would easiy kill Dabura and then Babidi)

He knows Gohan doesn't love fighting, but 1 - Gohan is far stronger than Cell, and 2 - He's the only one that could defeat Cell, so it doesn't matter what Gohan did or didn't like. He's the only one that can win, end of story.
That was a retcon. Super Saiyan 3 hadn't been created yet by Toriyama, and what would either side gain by Goku fighting at far less than his full strength? No one who brings up this argument ever answers this question. Goku likes testing his limits. If he's fighting someone whom he can beat with ease, what is he getting out of fighting Vegeta?

[dario03]

This thread is really terrible just like TFS and most of TFS is not even entertaining.
Answer: Nothing
Also most of what TFS does only provides cancer such as this thread,things like Goku is an bad parent, and annoying memes.
I saw an comment on an forum once on this subject to that Goku is an bad parent and pretty much sums TFS in general.
(cut for length)

Also this to:"B-But Team Four Star said he's a bad father! They have over one million subscribers! I need to listen to them!"
As well as nerds who think memes are actually funny.

TFS might of pushed it, but they did not start the Goku is a bad father thing.

[KaiserNeko]

One of the only reasons we made those jokes to begin with was because that mentality was a thing. We didn't start it by any stretch of the imagination.

[dbzfan7]

One of the only reasons we made those jokes to begin with was because that mentality was a thing. We didn't start it by any stretch of the imagination.

Toriyama himself thinks Goku is a bad father

Toriyama:
Goku isn't interested in child-rearing, probably. He's completely unqualified to be a father. (laughs) He doesn't even have a job. Goku wants nothing other than to get stronger, and it feels like he doesn't have any other instincts. So he shows absolutely no interest in things he's not interested in. I'd bet he wouldn't have had any interest in marriage, either.

Now this doesn't mean he's on the level of child abusers, drunken fathers, or those who absolutely hate their children. He's simply a completely unqualified dad who has absolutely no interest in being a father. People just horribly overblown that bad means he's automatically a horrible shitbag. Just because he is a bad father, doesn't mean he is a bad person, or detestable with his children. Goku is a terrible family man too. Makes perfect sense since he's a man child.

[ekrolo2]

Vastly improving on the personalities of Freeza's army is another one I want to add. Besides Vegeta and Tagoma, Freeza's army is pretty damn boring for me from Cui all the way to Captain Ginyu. TFS either giving them or exaggerating what few personality traits were there and making them fun to watch.

One of the only reasons we made those jokes to begin with was because that mentality was a thing. We didn't start it by any stretch of the imagination.

Toriyama himself thinks Goku is a bad father

Toriyama:
Goku isn't interested in child-rearing, probably. He's completely unqualified to be a father. (laughs) He doesn't even have a job. Goku wants nothing other than to get stronger, and it feels like he doesn't have any other instincts. So he shows absolutely no interest in things he's not interested in. I'd bet he wouldn't have had any interest in marriage, either.

Now this doesn't mean he's on the level of child abusers, drunken fathers, or those who absolutely hate their children. He's simply a completely unqualified dad who has absolutely no interest in being a father. People just horribly overblown that bad means he's automatically a horrible shitbag. Just because he is a bad father, doesn't mean he is a bad person, or detestable with his children. Goku is a terrible family man too. Makes perfect sense since he's a man child.

Thank you so, so very much for letting me know about this quote!

[Soppa Saia People]

...they get more views??? cant think of anything else

The DB shows were worldwide, TFS is mainly a US of A thing, so I don't get how they could get more views.

[Ree]

i meant individually from each part of the world, not combined.

[rereboy]

>Everyone thinks Goku is a nutjob.
>On the fucking day he comes back to the living world there is another threat that could destroy the world."

- He is, for giving Cell Senzu Bean, not realising, that Gohan is not fighter like he is (piccolo figured it out, despite spending less thime with Gohan)
- Threat, with would be ended with ease, if Goku didn't decide to make Veget a happy (If Goku didn't return, Vegeta and Gohan would easiy kill Dabura and then Babidi)

He knows Gohan doesn't love fighting, but 1 - Gohan is far stronger than Cell, and 2 - He's the only one that could defeat Cell, so it doesn't matter what Gohan did or didn't like. He's the only one that can win, end of story.

Also, it's funny how Piccolo was the one who first picked up Gohan and trained him because his power was probably going to be needed in the coming battles, which including throwing him into a giant boulder, leaving him in a desert for 6 months and beating him up constantly, and yet, some years later, when it's finally time to get the benefits of having put Gohan on that road, since at that point Gohan is the only one capable of defeating Cell and everyone else is pretty much irrelevant, Piccolo is the one who DOESN'T realize this and criticizes Goku for it .

Goku merely did what was necessary, like Piccolo did, only now it was even more necessary for Gohan to fight. The only unnecessary thing Goku did was to give Cell a senzu but Goku knew that it didn't even matter, he knew that Gohan far surpassed Cell's best so he viewed that action as having complete faith in Gohan.