4:3 vs 16:9 poll

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Cipher » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:30 pm

I like everything cropped into a center triangle regardless of its original aspect ratio. It just looks better that way. And it fills up all the space on my strange, triangular TV.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:47 pm

Pokewhiz7 wrote:May I ask what the point of this is? You know exactly what the results are going to be.
This is the point:
Cipher wrote:I like everything cropped into a center triangle regardless of its original aspect ratio. It just looks better that way. And it fills up all the space on my strange, triangular TV.
:lol:

When FUNimation did their survey, everybody believed that majority voted for 16:9.
The real goal is something that is not welcomed here, so I cannot explain it.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by ParkerAL » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:52 pm

I voted in your poll, Kojiro Sasaki, but I feel you're being needlessly unclear with your posts here.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Gaffer Tape » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:04 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:When FUNimation did their survey, everybody believed that majority voted for 16:9.
The real goal is something that is not welcomed here, so I cannot explain it.
Actually, a former FUNimation employee admitted on Twitter that 4:3 won the poll, but they chose to ignore it anyway.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:15 pm

ParkerAL wrote:I voted in your poll, Kojiro Sasaki, but I feel you're being needlessly unclear with your posts here.
What do you mean?

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:18 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:This is the point:
Cipher wrote:I like everything cropped into a center triangle regardless of its original aspect ratio. It just looks better that way. And it fills up all the space on my strange, triangular TV.
:lol:

When FUNimation did their survey, everybody believed that majority voted for 16:9.
The real goal is something that is not welcomed here, so I cannot explain it.
I will never forgive FUNimation for that 4:3/16:9 survey debacle. Executive Meddling at its worst.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by ParkerAL » Fri Feb 05, 2016 4:27 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:What do you mean?
You haven't explained the purpose of your poll, even though someone asked.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Man-Child » Fri Feb 05, 2016 7:41 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote: Can you remind me from where this info came from? If you ask me, I don't think that early movies (DB1-3, DBZ1-3) were meant to be seen in 16:9: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/110232 - looks like random center crop.
Weren't those films shown in 16:9 when they premiered on the screen? I may've been wrong in suggesting that they were made solely to be seen in widescreen, but it seems like that aspect ratio was in mind when the animators worked on the films.

I still think, for the most part, that the cropping makes the movies look too tight, but The Dead Zone actually turned out the best imo.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:48 pm

Man-Child wrote:Weren't those films shown in 16:9 when they premiered on the screen? I may be wrong in suggesting that the films were made solely to be seen in widescreen, but it seems like that aspect ratio was in mind when the animators worked on the films.
Yes, I remember that, but I forgot what was the source of this info.
Man-Child wrote:I still think, for the most part, that the cropping makes the movies look too tight, but The Dead Zone actually turned out the best imo.
I posted some shots from The Dead Zone:
1. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160778
2. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160779
3. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160780
4. http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/160781

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Ajay » Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:53 pm

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From Kanzenshuu's own "Dragon Box Significance" page - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/features/funi ... nificance/

Kei has noted that the movies have been shown theatrically in 4:3 before, I believe. So whether that holds any weight on the matter, I don't know.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Puto » Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:07 am

For what it's worth, for the first two DB movies, they vertically shifted the OP to make for better widescreen framing when centre-cropping, and adding huge awkward borders when watching it in 4:3.

What were those 4:3 shots taken from? They look really nice.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Zillamon51 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:01 am

DB/Z/GT shows: 4:3 OAR, so no picture is cropped.

Movies: 16:9 OAR, as they were intended to be seen in theaters.

DBZ Kai: 16:9. Since the whole point of the show is to refresh it for modern sensibilities, I actually wish Funi released the widescreen version.

DB Super: 16:9. As a new production, I assume that's OAR.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:24 am

Zillamon51 wrote: DBZ Kai: 16:9. Since the whole point of the show is to refresh it for modern sensibilities, I actually wish Funi released the widescreen version.
You can always adjust the settings on your TV and switch to widescreen if your watching the Funimation Kai DVDs/Blu-Rays. I think the fact it was released internationally in full screen just goes to show there's nothing stopping Funimation from releasing DBZ in 4:3, they just refuse to.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kuririn Fan » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:44 am

Zillamon51 wrote:DB/Z/GT shows: 4:3 OAR, so no picture is cropped.

Movies: 16:9 OAR, as they were intended to be seen in theaters.

DBZ Kai: 16:9. Since the whole point of the show is to refresh it for modern sensibilities, I actually wish Funi released the widescreen version.

DB Super: 16:9. As a new production, I assume that's OAR.
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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Pokewhiz7 » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:09 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:
Zillamon51 wrote: DBZ Kai: 16:9. Since the whole point of the show is to refresh it for modern sensibilities, I actually wish Funi released the widescreen version.
You can always adjust the settings on your TV and switch to widescreen if your watching the Funimation Kai DVDs/Blu-Rays. I think the fact it was released internationally in full screen just goes to show there's nothing stopping Funimation from releasing DBZ in 4:3, they just refuse to.
The biggest problem with that being that Kai was selectively panned and scanned, and you can only center crop a DVD or Blu-ray. You also will not get anything extra on the sides, and it will be lower resolution (640x360 instead of 853x480 on DVD, for example).

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:43 pm

Hey Puto! Shots were taken from DBZ Movie 1 trailer (from Dragon Box: The Movies).

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by DB1984 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:57 pm

Here's why I believe the films were intended for cropping. The following images are from DBZ Movie 2.

Top: Dutch dub in 4:3

Bottom: Dragon Box in 16:9

Look at the top image. Look at all that wasted space. The bottom image has all of that space filled up.

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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by Zenith » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:28 am

While I am in the camp that 4:3 is best, I'm not super hardcore about this debate. I've seen footage from the Dragon Boxes, the Level sets and the more recent Season sets, and it doesn't really bother me all that much. Yes, I know we technically lose 25% of the picture when it is cropped, but it truly just doesn't bother me all that much. To each his own, I suppose.


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Re: 4:3 vs 16:9 poll

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:18 pm

Just for fun I did this comparison just to see the quality difference. The trailer looks soo good tho a bit on the warm side
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