Which characters/scenes had "more to it" in Dubs?

[Kid Buu]

I liked it when Gohan did a Masenko animation and shouted out Masenko instead of Kamehameha in the original version.

[MajinMan]

After fully transitioning to the Japanese version, I can't really say that I think the dub did any scene better than the original. I guess giving #13 somewhat of a personality is one thing they did better because it was just a movie and they gave it more substance without really detracting from anything. As for the actual anime and series, I can't think of a character or scene they improved.

[EXBadguy]

You're asking this question in a pro-Japanese Dragon Ball forum.

*smh* Yeah man, I really should've known better. So yeah, mods, lock this thread if you want since the answer to this question is obvious.

[Cetra]

Chris Sabat gives Vegeta some really funny lines in GT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duNxfv2400I

[zDBZ]

Can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but: a strict translation from Japanese sometimes makes for awkward English, and in comparing the original Funi dub to "Kai" or the manga, every now and again I'll find something that benefited from a looser approach to the translating IMO.

[emi_b7]

In the Latin American dub, Vegeta says "insecto" (insect, in case you don't have advanced knowledge of the Spanish language lol) a lot, it's kind of his go to insult, you know, as in "all of you, insects, are not match for me, the Prince of all Sayans blah blah blah". Anyway, in the Cell games, in one of those token scenes were something happens and they show EVERY character's reaction (I think it's right after Goku gives up), Cell calls the Z warriors "insectos" and, when they show the reactions, a pissed off Vegeta thinks to himself "grr not only did he steal my cells, he also stole my lines". I always thought that was both ridiculous and amusing.

[Khin]

I'm not that much of a Funi Dub fan.But the way they make Kaioshin's first appearance is way better than the original in my opinion.

[dario03]

Vegeta's final Flash.

[B]

Can't think of a specific example off the top of my head, but: a strict translation from Japanese sometimes makes for awkward English, and in comparing the original Funi dub to "Kai" or the manga, every now and again I'll find something that benefited from a looser approach to the translating IMO.

Do you have examples from the Kai dub that you would call "awkward?"

[Soppa Saia People]

You're asking this question in a pro-Japanese Dragon Ball forum, where the supporters of such rule the roost and if you like a dub, you're treated like a scrub.
Ballsy, but stupid.

It's not 2004 anymore, almost no one acts like that. Besides there are plenty of pro funi dub fans on here.

[Ajay]

Obviously this.

[DanielSSJ]

For scenes, I liked the one where Future Trunks explained that there was a timeline where Goku as a kid fought Gero one time and spared his life, giving it a bit more build up to the relationship of Dr Gero and Goku.

I'd like to point out that Goku never fought Dr. Gero at all. He had never heard of the man until Trunks showed up. Anyway, as a whole, it was Funimation's job to translate the original material. Making things up, whether they made sense or not, means that they're not doing their job correctly. Punching up existing dialogue is one thing, but changing stuff outright kind of irritates me.

[Darkton]

Y'all're bitches.

I like the scene in Movie 5 where Cooler illustrates how little he was on the Cold Family food chain, as opposed to the scene in Japanese where all that happens is that Coola's just bragging.

And, I kinda like the scene where Vegeta tells a story of how he became a Super Saiyan as opposed to it being a clip show full of filler. The dialogue actually makes things seem faster, especially in the Westwood Dub with Brian Drummond's great delivery.

[Fionordequester]

Do you have examples from the Kai dub that you would call "awkward?"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=exy_bHHCwF4

[EXBadguy]

For scenes, I liked the one where Future Trunks explained that there was a timeline where Goku as a kid fought Gero one time and spared his life, giving it a bit more build up to the relationship of Dr Gero and Goku.

I'd like to point out that Goku never fought Dr. Gero at all. He had never heard of the man until Trunks showed up. Anyway, as a whole, it was Funimation's job to translate the original material. Making things up, whether they made sense or not, means that they're not doing their job correctly. Punching up existing dialogue is one thing, but changing stuff outright kind of irritates me.

Yeah, uh no disrespect, but I already said that I'm aware of them screwing up some of the original material. I'm just saying that some lines in certain scenes sounded more cooler then the original ones. Of course, it still ain't objectively right to switch shit up, but yeah, some switch-ups I didn't really mind.

[TheBalishChannel]

The scenes where nobody talked in the original, and the dub has them blabbing or playing music

Yes, that adds more.. In the literal sense it does!

Though I agree that there are quite a few scenes in the dub that had needlessly put in, questionable dialogue, I feel most of it is justified and pretty well-executed. As Darkton mentioned earlier, scenes like Vegeta's explanation to the androids on how he became a Super Saiyan really do benefit from the added dialogue as it helps to give it more purpose and emotion.

Another really stand-out example of added dialogue is only in the original English dub for Tree of Might during the climactic scene in which Turles and Goku have a standoff. In the original Japanese version, along with both Pioneer's and FUNimation's own Uncut English dubs, they just stare at each other for almost an entire minute with nothing driving the scene beyond the rather cheerful music.

In the original English dub, not only did Shuki Levy's/Ron Wasserman's score help accentuate the tense moment, but the additional lines also helped to give the scene more energy. It's written in such a way that each of the character's lines are relevant to each shot in order to focus on certain aspects of the Tree of Might. For instance when Turles starts talking about the fruit, it zooms in on the fruit; when Goku talks about the energy given to him from the Tree of Might, the scene cuts to a shot of the God rays shining through the branches of the trees. It's very well done and is intelligently written.

I made a comparison of the original Japanese version vs. the original English dub here. The English dub starts at 1:20.

Also, the rhyme at the beginning, intentional or not, is badass. FUNimation's Uncut dub later changed this line to, "I have the power of nature inside" which I assume was done to make it less "corny."

[ABED]

THis isn't a great example, but could have been had FUNi done it well, but in the filler scene where Muten Roshi catches up Marron and the audience up on the Red Ribbon Army there's an explanation. In the original, as I recall, it was just a lot of music and images. The original takes for granted that the audience saw or remembers a story that occured 4 or 5 years ago. They don't have him talk every single second, but a few lines to give context to everything would've been appreciated, especially to the American audience who never saw those episodes.

It's very well done and is intelligently written.

It's not as bad is at could've been, but I still prefer the original and the JPN music isn't nearly as cheerful as you claim it is. I like the lack of dialog in the scene. It adds to the tension of the scene, like it's a matter of which one of them is going to make the first move, including talk.

[Kakarotto92]

I only know the Funi dub from youtube clips but one instance where I think its script greatly improved the original is definitely Majin Vegeta's iconic "What do you know of meaningless?!" speech in the tournament arena. Funi's script really nailed Vegeta's tragic despair at that moment, definitely a character defining speech.

[ABED]

Except that Vegeta's rage and reasons for doing what he did at that moment had ZERO to do with Freeza.

[Fionordequester]

Except that Vegeta's rage and reasons for doing what he did at that moment had ZERO to do with Freeza.

You mean, IN THE JAPANESE VERSION, his rage and reasons for doing what he did had zero to do with Freeza. But that's not what this thread is focused on .