Worst point in the series ?

[sintzu]

I can't believe I forgot about this.

You don't know how lucky you are.

[DBZAOTA482]

I can't believe I forgot about this.

You don't know how lucky you are.

Yeah, I can't believe people are pointing to most of the Cell Saga over those horrific episodes... but then again that's the Kanzenshuu community for ya.

[Captain Strawberry]

The Android stuff like Future Trunks is full of plot holes

[Soppa Saia People]

I can't believe I forgot about this.

You don't know how lucky you are.

Yeah, I can't believe people are pointing to most of the Cell Saga over those horrific episodes... but then again that's the Kanzenshuu community for ya.

For me at least, the first 15 (excluding episode 1 and 2) are easily skipble but with those islands a lot stuff happens, so if you skip ahead you're gonna be left in the dark.

[rey2187]

I'll agree with everyone who said the fight between Vegeta/Trunks and Cell. It's a bore because we know Cell will reach his perfect form and defeat Vegeta so we're just left waiting around for it to happen. I also think the fight between Gotenks and Boo inside the room of spirit and time tends to really drag on and on, though it's not as bad in the manga.

[Marjo]

Male boy frontal nudity, Gohan peeing scenes, the rebellious orphan segment, Gohan Krillin & Bulma meeting the space orphan group, & yes, that Fake namek segment was also cringeworthy as well.

[Zephyr]

The Namek arc in the anime is always the worst part for me to rewatch. Every bit of it drags on, whilst being sparsely spiced up by actual interesting plot details. It starts off with some boring filler. The interesting three-way struggle for the Dragon Balls is interesting conceptually, but it always puts me to sleep. Shit gets real when the Ginyus show up, but once Goku and Ginyu switch bodies, it drags on like crazy. And, of course, the already mentioned "5 minutes on Namek". Might as well lump in the Garlic Jr. into that stretch as well, since it immediately follows this slog, and keeps things dreadfully dull.

Current runners up for me:
- the Grade II Super Saiyans fighting 2nd form Cell
- the literally epic (and not in a necessarily good way) fight spanning SSj3 Gotenks to the innards of Buu
- Super's first two arcs
- GT's first stretch after they launch into space, and the Super 17 arc

[IAmTheMilkMan]

As far as the anime goes, I would say most of the filler and it's effect on the pacing in general. Anytime two characters just stare at each other for extended periods of time is embarrassing.

As for the manga/Toriyama-written portion, I always think of the end of the fight with Cell when Goku uses instant transmission to transport the about-to-self-destruct Semi-Perfect Cell to Kaio Sama's planet, and then once that happens and Cell destructs, SURPRISE! Cell doesn't die. And he's back to his complete form. And he's back on Earth.
"But how in the world is this possible!?" everyone asks.
CELL: "Oh, because of, uh, a core or something in my head that allows me to completely regenerate if it isn't destroyed, which it wasn't, so, you know... Phew!"
EVERYONE: "But how did you get here if you exploded on Kaio's planet?"
CELL: "Well I know instant transmission now! Because... I... saw Goku use it?" *shrug* "Anyway, I'm stronger now, too, because Saiyan Cells! Woo-hoo!"
EVERYONE: "Okay... but why did you regenerate to your complete form even though you no longer have #18?"
CELL: "I don't know, I guess I just don't need her anymore!"
EVERYONE: "You don't need her anymore? How come?"
CELL: "Because... I... uh... TOO MANY QUESTIONS! DIE, TRUNKS!"

Lazy writing, in my opinion. Granted, this does lead up to one of the most iconic events in the series, but I feel like we could have arrived at that moment in a different, at least somewhat believable way.

Also, I am 100% of the belief that Goku had plenty of time to zip over to the about-to-explode Cell, transport him to Kaio's planet, grab Kaio, and transport back without dying. I believe, in any other instance, Goku would have done just that, but instead Toriyama had to find a way to quickly get rid of him for that final Kamehameha.

In Dragon Ball, the Pirate Cave and the Wedding Dress portions are a chore to get trough. Especially the Wedding Dress, as it happens between a great arc and nothing, as the series ends there, leading it to fall flat on it's face.

The Wedding Dress arc is 100% filler, so you can actually skip it completely and you won't miss a beat.

A lot of people are mentioning the pirate cave during the Red Ribbon arc and I urge you to seek out the manga for that portion. The Red Ribbon arc is the first time where the anime really started to pile on the filler, and the entire arc suffers greatly for it. It's a different, much more enjoyable experience in the manga, for my money.

[Kuririn Fan]

Cells exploded the instant Goku arrived at Kaios.

[IAmTheMilkMan]

Cells exploded the instant Goku arrived at Kaios.

No, he didn't. Goku still had time to turn to Kaio-sama and say "S-sorry, Kaio-sama. This was the only place I could go" before Cell actually exploded, during which time someone of Goku's speed would have been easily able to grab Kaio-sama, who was right there, and instant transmission back to safety. This is on top of the lengthy goodbye he had already given to his friends and Gohan back on Earth. You can call it comic book logic or whatever, but it still frustrates me.

[Captain Strawberry]

Cells exploded the instant Goku arrived at Kaios.

No, he didn't. Goku still had time to turn to Kaio-sama and say "S-sorry, Kaio-sama. This was the only place I could go" before Cell actually exploded, during which time someone of Goku's speed would have been easily able to grab Kaio-sama, who was right there, and instant transmission back to safety. This is on top of the lengthy goodbye he had already given to his friends and Gohan back on Earth. You can call it comic book logic or whatever, but it still frustrates me.

But in Dragon ball, everything is slowed for you

[xmysticgohanx]

most of pre z DB if we're talking canon

[Cipher]

There's still interesting Trunks/Vegeta stuff happening in the island portion of the Cell arc.

After Cell absorbs #18, though? That through the end of the arc is the only portion of the series that bores me in both the manga and anime.

Z's Namek arc is fucking impossible, though it's great in the manga and enjoyable in Kai, and large stretches of Super's first two arcs are inexcusably bad, though I like the material in the original movies.

Re: Pirate cave in the Red Ribbon Army arc: It's quite fun in the manga. It receives some of the anime's worst padding, though.

Dragon Ball Gt's 1st 15 episodes.

Never gotten the hate for these. They run a little on the boring side, but the atmosphere is so good, I don't care.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

I'm going to be perfectly honest and say the Resurrection F arc of Super because man, what a fucking mess of an arc that was. Wasted potential with what little new material they added to it, 1 to 1 one storytelling with the movie, terrible fight choreography on its own AND when compared to the movie and then top it off with some of the absolute WORST animation in Dragon Ball anything and then you have a recipe for an absolutely unwatachable arc of Dragon Ball that doesn't even compare to its superior movie counterpart. Even with some of Dragon Ball's top animation directors working on the arc like Tate and others, it just ended up looking like utter trash especially with Tate's animations sacrificing detail and character design for what little fluidity he can give which looked ugly the billions of times he did it in One Piece and it looked ugly here as well.

[Gorou]

Cells exploded the instant Goku arrived at Kaios.

No, he didn't. Goku still had time to turn to Kaio-sama and say "S-sorry, Kaio-sama. This was the only place I could go" before Cell actually exploded, during which time someone of Goku's speed would have been easily able to grab Kaio-sama, who was right there, and instant transmission back to safety. This is on top of the lengthy goodbye he had already given to his friends and Gohan back on Earth. You can call it comic book logic or whatever, but it still frustrates me.

He do not do this because he was willing to sacrifice himself, dying, from the beginning. For the same reason, he decided not to be resuscitated. Certain actions, from the reader's point of view, seem stupid, but should be analyzed from the point of view of the character.

Even Vegeta allowing Cell to become perfect, from his point of view, it was not such a stupid move, indeed was perfectly in character.

However, in the manga there is nothing that bored me. The pace is fitting with no deadlock.

There are two points, however objectively confusing, as Cell final regeneration , at all the initial part of the Buu saga, with Babidi. In the anime boring moments are countless.
At the end, my choose fall again to the first two arcs of Super.

[sintzu]

I'm going to be perfectly honest and say the Resurrection F arc of Super because man, what a fucking mess of an arc that was. Wasted potential with what little new material they added to it.

If this topic was about the most wasted potential in the franchise then Freeza coming back would easily make it into the top 3 cause there's so much they could've done but instead he was just a training exercise for Goku & Vegeta.

[Kuririn Fan]

most of pre z DB if we're talking canon

What? How? Why?

[Lord Beerus]

most of pre z DB if we're talking canon

What? How? Why?

Yeah, I'd certainly also love to hear the explanation for that opinion, too.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

most of pre z DB if we're talking canon

This statement requieres an indepth explanation.

[Bullza]

Most of the filler in Dragon Ball.