Plot Holes

Khin · Post by **Khin** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:47 pm

What are some plot holes in the series ? Here's some i know.

Trunks said that the time machine Cell took arrived one year before Freeza and King Cold.Okay.But when Cell explains his origin to Piccolo later, he said that the machine was already set for.Piccolo then speculates that the Future-Future Trunks must have set it for that date in order to tell them he defeated the Androids.
When Cell explains his origin to Piccolo,he said that Future Trunks cell could've also been collected.But Cell's timelines in the one where Goku died from the heart virus.So Future Trunks shouldn't exist in Cell's timeline.(Though i can't remember if this part is anime only)
This is an obvious one and fixed.Future Trunks telling Goku that the Android are Android 19 and 20.
Also a fixed one.Jheese and Burta's scouters reads Vegeta's Power level against Recoome as 20,000,when his Power level when he arrived on Namek was 24,000.
The Dragon Balls being active in the Freeza Arc when they used it to revive the Namekians when it was used to revive Goku not too long ago.

There is probably more of them.And i think some of them might have an explanation for it.

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Sat Mar 12, 2016 10:54 pm

The most famous one is probably when Goku goes looking for the Dragon Balls 8 months after they were used.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:12 am

Sources: Dragon Ball vol. 34 (p.73) & vol. 35 (p. 77), Akira Toriyama, 1984-1995

The ultimate "this is inconsistent therefore does not count" breaker.

Analytic · Post by **Analytic** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:24 am

Tyro wrote:The most famous one is probably when Goku goes looking for the Dragon Balls 8 months after they were used.

Only came into this thread to post this, but you beat me to it.

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 · Post by **Super Saiyan Turlast x4** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:33 am

Everyone in the Boo saga thinking Gohan was gone forever despite the fact that he's the only one who's never been revived before.

I don't think the last one is a plot-hole. Kami allowed Goku to bring everyone back right after the battle with Daimao. I believe he made his wish like a day or so before.

Analytic · Post by **Analytic** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:36 am

Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:Everyone in the Boo saga thinking Gohan was gone forever despite the fact that he's the only one who's never been revived before.

Completely forgot about that. It's amazing how dumb Toriyama unintentionally makes his characters.

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:37 am

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:What are some plot holes in the series ? Here's some i know.

Also a fixed one.Jheese and Burta's scouters reads Vegeta's Power level against Recoome as 20,000,when his Power level when he arrived on Namek was 24,000.

The Dragon Balls being active in the Freeza Arc when they used it to revive the Namekians when it was used to revive Goku not too long ago.

Vegeta might be suppressed
Kami died & got revived, and same happened to DB's

Cetra wrote:Cell's regen

The ultimate "this is inconsistent therefore does not count" breaker.

I have an explanation:

Cell regenerated from IT KHH because he was able to survive without his upper body (thanks to freeza's cels) and had most of his ki preserved.
When cell self-destructed, he regenerated from his head core due to the special ability of his core.

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:59 am

Plot holes:

When bulma used DB's, everyone killed on that day was revived, and no one even thought of gohan, kibito & kaioshin being revived. They thought gohan was dead.
The people killed by majin vegeta were already brought back to life by bulma, so why bothering including that in vegeta's words, and goku agreeing with him (even though he knows they were brought back)
Kaioshin thought SS gohan (vs dabura) >>> SS2 gohan (tournament) , he said that "What if it wasn't gohan's full power"
"WOw, what an amazing performance gohan. Too bad kibito wassn't here to see your awesome power"
SS gohan (MUCH weaker than CG) can seemingly fight an opponent stronger than perfect cell with a slight advantage
Kaioshin saying that he can never forget that fearful-awful face of majin buu, while it was the face of great kaioshin. Not to mention that it was kid buu who killed the kaioshins, not fat buu.

Desassina · Post by **Desassina** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:40 am

Not really a plot hole, but an incovenience that has to do with Gotenks using fusion inside the RoSaT, while the characters outside should have spoken in mili seconds.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:42 am

Cell ha no Regen without THE cell. That is the point of the scene. His friend Freeza cannot help him here and it would also make the core pretty much unnecessary. He was also shocked. It only is okay because DB can live without Logic.

Kuririn Fan · Post by **Kuririn Fan** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:59 am

Pilaf gang being young and Kibitoshin defusing finally erased the last bit of hope of GT being canon.
I love it.

Analytic · Post by **Analytic** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:13 pm

^ Or perhaps the Pilaf Gang used the Dragon Balls to become old again and Kibito and Kaioshin fused again in between the gap between DBS and DBGT.

Doctor. · Post by **Doctor.** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:26 pm

The Dragon Balls were active again only after 8 months between the first arc and the RRA arc.

Cetra · Post by **Cetra** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:29 pm

Analytic wrote:^ Or perhaps the Pilaf Gang used the Dragon Balls to become old again and Kibito and Kaioshin fused again in between the gap between DBS and DBGT.

Not to mention plotholes mean this conclusion of a contradiction automatically cancelling out possibilities is wrong.

Kuririn Fan · Post by **Kuririn Fan** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:33 pm

Analytic wrote:^ Or perhaps the Pilaf Gang used the Dragon Balls to become old again and Kibito and Kaioshin fused again in between the gap between DBS and DBGT.

Why would they fuse again? They said it felt weird.

Analytic · Post by **Analytic** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:52 pm

Kuririn Fan wrote:
Analytic wrote:^ Or perhaps the Pilaf Gang used the Dragon Balls to become old again and Kibito and Kaioshin fused again in between the gap between DBS and DBGT.
Why would they fuse again? They said it felt weird.

I don't know. I'm not saying they necessarily did, just that it's a possibility.

Tyro · Post by **Tyro** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:10 pm

Doctor. wrote:The Dragon Balls were active again only after 8 months between the first arc and the RRA arc.

Good one! If only someone had posted that...

apex_pretador · Post by **apex_pretador** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Tyro wrote:
Doctor. wrote:The Dragon Balls were active again only after 8 months between the first arc and the RRA arc.
Good one! If only someone had posted that...

more than thrice?

Anyways, it is the biggest one probably apart from some in buu arc I mentioned.

buutenks · Post by **buutenks** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:38 pm

How do you guys notice these plot holes lol.

I mean sure the cell thing is pretty obvious. But rest i never noticed them lol.

Cipher · Post by **Cipher** » Sun Mar 13, 2016 6:05 pm

SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:[*]The Dragon Balls being active in the Freeza Arc when they used it to revive the Namekians when it was used to revive Goku not too long ago.[/list]

God and Piccolo were killed and revived within that time span; it's not unreasonable that the Dragon Balls would reactivate when they're brought back to life.

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