"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:34 pm

That was nice, shame Piccolo's fight was so short. The strategy appears to be different here, I don't know what's being said, from the visuals I assume Piccolo is fighting at a distance to tire Frost out.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by apex_pretador » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:35 pm

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generalred3 wrote:They don't. I think its clear Piccolo got stronger. The disagreement comes in when some try to place him on God tier all of a sudden...
At the moment it is
Piccolo fans= God tier
neutral= maybe God tier
Piccolo haters= not God tier
Piccolo is my favourite character by far, and I won't put him ANYWHERE NEAR SSG.
He's close to base god goku / vegeta though.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sandubadear » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:35 pm

Eeeh, it was ok, but it loses some points since it had nothing new. I also liked the anime version of Piccolo vs. Frost more.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:36 pm

The fights here are once again far more interesting. It really sucks though that Piccolo's fight was such an afterthought. Did Goku really need his fight to be so long?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:38 pm

Zombie wrote:
Draconic wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Piccolo looked even with Frost though.
He did in the anime too.
No he didn't.
They were practically even but was a different kind of fight in the manga and Piccolo was going to win easily remember in the anime.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:39 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:The fights here are once again far more interesting. It really sucks though that Piccolo's fight was such an afterthought. Did Goku really need his fight to be so long?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:41 pm

apex_pretador wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
generalred3 wrote:They don't. I think its clear Piccolo got stronger. The disagreement comes in when some try to place him on God tier all of a sudden...
At the moment it is
Piccolo fans= God tier
neutral= maybe God tier
Piccolo haters= not God tier
Piccolo is my favourite character by far, and I won't put him ANYWHERE NEAR SSG.
He's close to base god goku / vegeta though.
God base Goku and Vegeta is still God tier.
dbzfan7 wrote:The fights here are once again far more interesting. It really sucks though that Piccolo's fight was such an afterthought. Did Goku really need his fight to be so long?
No it didn't, I immediately thought Goku fan service as he will not be seen fighting for a long time.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:42 pm

Zombie wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:The fights here are once again far more interesting. It really sucks though that Piccolo's fight was such an afterthought. Did Goku really need his fight to be so long?
Goku and Vegeta manga.

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I already coined the term Goku and Vegeta Show, featuring Beerus and Whis. :P
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LuckyCat » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:43 pm

Very awesome choreography, and I love the way the blasts exploded off that dome showing that the fights aren't contained to a measly ring.

All that info about Frost's background appears to be missing from the manga. That likely means he won't be a significant character in the rest of the U6 arc.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:44 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Zombie wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:The fights here are once again far more interesting. It really sucks though that Piccolo's fight was such an afterthought. Did Goku really need his fight to be so long?
Goku and Vegeta manga.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ShinTenshin » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:47 pm

The real difference is that Goku SS Versus Frost is much longer.
That is far better to explain how Frost is actually exhausted.
Seems like chapter 10 confirm Frost is totally exhausted against Piccolo.
His power seems extremely lower because Goku say it !!
The power decrease is clear.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:48 pm

ShinTenshin wrote:The real difference is that Goku SS Versus Frost is much longer.
That is far better to explain how Frost is actually exhausted.
Seems like chapter 10 confirm Frost is totally exhausted against Piccolo.
His power seems extremely lower cause Goku say it !!
The power decrease is clear.
Have you got it translated then..

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:50 pm

I'm not a piccolo hater at all. I'm more neutral but on the positive side regarding him. No way he's god level. 8 months of training with a weakened gohan isn't going to take him there, especially when he got tired against base gohan. If Piccolo is around base goku level, that means gohan's around goku's level which I dont see happening from 8 months of training. I don't think Gohan or piccolo are stronger than mystic gohan at this point.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by namekiansaiyan » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:53 pm

kinisking wrote:I'm not a piccolo hater at all. I'm more neutral but on the positive side regarding him. No way he's god level. 8 months of training with a weakened gohan isn't going to take him there, especially when he got tired against base gohan. If Piccolo is around base goku level, that means gohan's around goku's level which I dont see happening from 8 months of training. I don't think Gohan or piccolo are stronger than mystic gohan at this point.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:56 pm

kinisking wrote:I'm not a piccolo hater at all. I'm more neutral but on the positive side regarding him. No way he's god level. 8 months of training with a weakened gohan isn't going to take him there, especially when he got tired against base gohan. If Piccolo is around base goku level, that means gohan's around goku's level which I dont see happening from 8 months of training. I don't think Gohan or piccolo are stronger than mystic gohan at this point.
Nah Gohan is just secretly an uber badass now. When he busts out SSJ he'll be just around Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan selves now, or maybe Super Duper Gohan with a saiyaman outfit. :P :wink:
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by kinisking » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:07 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
kinisking wrote:I'm not a piccolo hater at all. I'm more neutral but on the positive side regarding him. No way he's god level. 8 months of training with a weakened gohan isn't going to take him there, especially when he got tired against base gohan. If Piccolo is around base goku level, that means gohan's around goku's level which I dont see happening from 8 months of training. I don't think Gohan or piccolo are stronger than mystic gohan at this point.
Nah Gohan is just secretly an uber badass now. When he busts out SSJ he'll be just around Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan selves now, or maybe Super Duper Gohan with a saiyaman outfit. :P :wink:
Lmao, as a gohan fan, I'd be so pissed if he was as strong as them right now. That would completely devalue god mode. He should either train under whis, do a ritual, or use his smarts to easily understand how god ki works himself (maybe be like oh this is like something i studied in class. That way we could even get an explanation. Never going to happen though). I
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:12 pm

kinisking wrote:
dbzfan7 wrote:
kinisking wrote:I'm not a piccolo hater at all. I'm more neutral but on the positive side regarding him. No way he's god level. 8 months of training with a weakened gohan isn't going to take him there, especially when he got tired against base gohan. If Piccolo is around base goku level, that means gohan's around goku's level which I dont see happening from 8 months of training. I don't think Gohan or piccolo are stronger than mystic gohan at this point.
Nah Gohan is just secretly an uber badass now. When he busts out SSJ he'll be just around Goku and Vegeta's Super Saiyan selves now, or maybe Super Duper Gohan with a saiyaman outfit. :P :wink:
Lmao, as a gohan fan, I'd be so pissed if he was as strong as them right now. That would completely devalue god mode. He should either train under whis, do a ritual, or use his smarts to easily understand how god ki works himself (maybe be like oh this is like something i studied in class. That way we could even get an explanation. Never going to happen though). I
Well I'd be happy and annoyed. Happy is that he's somewhat potentially relevant. Annoyed because the reason is dumb. But hey with all the PL wanking going around lately, I guess that means I can wank Gohan even further as an SSJ right? The shiny golden Super Gohan in his saiyaman outfit doing poses, and being about on par with SSJ Goku/Vegeta. Yes I Saiya Can! :lol:
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:14 pm

apex_pretador wrote:Piccolo's close to base god goku / vegeta though.
Base God Goku and Vegeta are on par with 4th form Freeza after his training.

Piccolo is weaker then Ginyu/Tagoma who's way below 1st form Freeza.

Piccolo at the very most is on par with Base Goku and Vegeta during the Buu arc and even that's a big stretch.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by ArchedThunder » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:14 pm

The Goku fight was honestly mostly the same but with a few more unique shots of Goku kicking Frost's ass, not really massively better if you ask me. I also dislike that Frost did the Freeza pose.
The Piccolo fight was worse than the anime.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by alakazam^ » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:19 pm

Chuquita wrote:Re: Super's manga cover

It's so cute! (☆▽☆)
Definitely gonna pick up a copy once it's listed.
You can already pre-order it from CDJapan.

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