Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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by alakazam^ » Fri Apr 08, 2016 9:58 pm
Cipher wrote:So if the placeholder title is just "Then, the Super Dragon Balls," that doesn't really imply a wish will be granted in the episode. It could easily be (and I hope it is) hinting that finding the last one will become the focus after the tournament, starting with that episode.
The other one is a bit more specific, but still doesn't necessarily mean we'll see a wish made. I just can't imagine it not feeling very convenient and rushed.
This is a good guess. The use of the chant as a title could mean the episode is focused on discussing about the Super Dragon Balls rather than a wish being made.
Either way, I wonder what happens to the Universe 6 fighters. They don't need to know about the Super Dragon Balls (even though they are seeing them) but if they stick around they'll surely know what they are and what they can do and I find it hard to believe some of them wouldn't want to have a wish granted (maybe Frost decides to invade Namek

). Toriyama likes simple stories and he most likely isn't thinking that ahead but it would be a HUGE loose end.
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by kinisking » Fri Apr 08, 2016 10:51 pm
Xeztin wrote:I know this sounds like something out of fan-manga, but I hope Goku absorbs Shenron and Vegeta Porunga to make them stronger and to also eliminate the other Dragon Balls at the same time. It could have been foreshadowed with Super's Volume 1 art covers, or it could just be... art. I got that idea from Heroes when Goku does that God kamehameha Shenron like attack.
Well, since we're making other characters irrelevant why not make the dragonballs too

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by SaiyaSith » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:10 pm
I don't understand why people keep saying that making a wish with the Super Dragon Balls right now would be too rushed... Did you think that the whole plot of the show is building up to this wish? We have no idea where the series is going... They made their first wish during the 12th episode of the original Dragon Ball anime.
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by KidGoku>3 » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:14 pm
Pannaliciour wrote:Nejishiki wrote:Let's see the execution before declaring it doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be fair to the anime staff if we dismissed it without giving it a chance to explain itself, although the translations seem to hint that Goku is doing this as a desperation move.
I mean, that if he can use kaioken why not use against cell when needed? Why not use against buu when needed?
Uhmm because Kaoiken is a god technique and back then he didn't have god ki. You're saying it makes no sense when in fact it makes A LOT of sense now.
When he used Kaoiken he couldn't maintain it and it was dangerous because his body couldn't handle it properly. Now that he has god ki he should be fine. How do you not see this ?
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by Polyphase Avatron » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:15 pm
Is it true that Toriyama said in an interview that there's going to be a white-haired Super Saiyan form?
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by jcogginsa » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:17 pm
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Is it true that Toriyama said in an interview that there's going to be a white-haired Super Saiyan form?
He said he originally planned for Super Saiyan Blue to have white hair, but changed it because it would clash with the color scheme of a future villain. So it's possible it'll be reused, but not confirmed
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by alakazam^ » Sat Apr 09, 2016 1:28 am
SaiyaSith wrote:I don't understand why people keep saying that making a wish with the Super Dragon Balls right now would be too rushed... Did you think that the whole plot of the show is building up to this wish? We have no idea where the series is going... They made their first wish during the 12th episode of the original Dragon Ball anime.
It's not because of the number of episodes, it's because in one episode Champa is wreacking havoc while someone is appearing and, in the next one, the title suggests the dragon is summoned. It seems too fast-paced since they still have to find the last ball.
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by Pannaliciour » Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:37 am
KidGoku>3 wrote:Pannaliciour wrote:Nejishiki wrote:Let's see the execution before declaring it doesn't make sense. That wouldn't be fair to the anime staff if we dismissed it without giving it a chance to explain itself, although the translations seem to hint that Goku is doing this as a desperation move.
I mean, that if he can use kaioken why not use against cell when needed? Why not use against buu when needed?
Uhmm because Kaoiken is a god technique and back then he didn't have god ki. You're saying it makes no sense when in fact it makes A LOT of sense now.
When he used Kaoiken he couldn't maintain it and it was dangerous because his body couldn't handle it properly. Now that he has god ki he should be fine. How do you not see this ?
Wtf are you smoking? First of all this doesnt make sense AT ALL! And second, you contradict yourself.
Kaioken is a god techniek and back then he didnt have god ki????? So in saiyan arc goku had god ki because he used kaioken? Yeah thats why people could sense him right?
And then you claim back then he had kaioken but couldnt maintain it because he didnt have god ki??? What is it now, did he or did he not have kaioken back then?
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by dbgtFO » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:22 am
alakazam^ wrote:SaiyaSith wrote:I don't understand why people keep saying that making a wish with the Super Dragon Balls right now would be too rushed... Did you think that the whole plot of the show is building up to this wish? We have no idea where the series is going... They made their first wish during the 12th episode of the original Dragon Ball anime.
It's not because of the number of episodes, it's because in one episode Champa is wreacking havoc while someone is appearing and, in the next one, the title suggests the dragon is summoned. It seems too fast-paced since they still have to find the last ball.
It fits with it being Monaka. Like Beerus said, Monaka once destroyed a planet in his anger. This time he destroys the nameless planet only to reveal the final super dragon Ball beneath the crust.
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by Khin » Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:54 am
Monaka will be on a rampage in episode 40 and end up destroying the planet which will end up being the Last Super Dragon Ball.After a while,they manage to calm him down.They then,summon the dragon of the gods.Goku or Beerus wish for Monaka's berserk mode to vanish.But his power remains.
Seeing how Monaka was with Jaco in the opening,i think he'll stick around.
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by SaiyaSith » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:16 am
dbgtFO wrote:alakazam^ wrote:SaiyaSith wrote:I don't understand why people keep saying that making a wish with the Super Dragon Balls right now would be too rushed... Did you think that the whole plot of the show is building up to this wish? We have no idea where the series is going... They made their first wish during the 12th episode of the original Dragon Ball anime.
It's not because of the number of episodes, it's because in one episode Champa is wreacking havoc while someone is appearing and, in the next one, the title suggests the dragon is summoned. It seems too fast-paced since they still have to find the last ball.
It fits with it being Monaka. Like Beerus said, Monaka once destroyed a planet in his anger. This time he destroys the nameless planet only to reveal the final super dragon Ball beneath the crust.
More like Future Trunks appears to stop the Super Dragon Ball wish.

Whis and Beerus kind of already implied that Monaka isn't who Beerus said he was. He's been knocked out the whole tourney from Goku's kamehameha.

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by LightBing » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:53 am
Isn't the Nameless Planet in neutral territory? The Super Dragon Balls are supposed to be distributed between Universe 6 and 7.
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by Hugo Boss » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:56 am
I can see the Dragon of Gods being summoned in Ep. 41 and the wish being granted (or not) in Ep. 42. I have to admit Monaka revealing Nameless Planet to be the last Super Dragon Ball is a pretty strong preview.
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by Khin » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:00 am
Universe 6 = 3 Balls
Universe 7 = 3 Balls
Neutral Space = 1 Ball
1,2,3 star balls [Universe 6] | 4 star ball [Neutral space] | 5,6,7 star balls [Universe 7]
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by Kuririn Fan » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:58 am
SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Universe 6 = 3 Balls
Universe 7 = 3 Balls
Neutral Space = 1 Ball
1,2,3 star balls [Universe 6] | 4 star ball [Neutral space] | 5,6,7 star balls [Universe 7]
Yeah, i also said that before and it's most likely true. It's not like Dragon Ball is something complex.
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by LightBing » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:07 am
Kuririn Fan wrote:SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Universe 6 = 3 Balls
Universe 7 = 3 Balls
Neutral Space = 1 Ball
1,2,3 star balls [Universe 6] | 4 star ball [Neutral space] | 5,6,7 star balls [Universe 7]
Yeah, i also said that before and it's most likely true. It's not like Dragon Ball is something complex.
By your logic we should take everything said at face value, Zuno said there are seven balls distributed between Universe 6 and 7. No mention of any neutral space. The theory isn't impossible, if comes into fruition Zuno lied by omission.
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by Hugo Boss » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:24 am
LightBing wrote:Kuririn Fan wrote:SSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Universe 6 = 3 Balls
Universe 7 = 3 Balls
Neutral Space = 1 Ball
1,2,3 star balls [Universe 6] | 4 star ball [Neutral space] | 5,6,7 star balls [Universe 7]
Yeah, i also said that before and it's most likely true. It's not like Dragon Ball is something complex.
By your logic we should take everything said at face value, Zuno said there are seven balls distributed between Universe 6 and 7. No mention of any neutral space. The theory isn't impossible, if comes into fruition Zuno lied by omission.
Couldn't that neutral space be common to the two universes? Or does it have to be a neutral space that doesn't belong to any of them?
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by LightBing » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:53 am
I don't think they elaborated on what neutral space really is, or it's location. Only that it's outside of Universe 6 and 7. At least that's what I remember.
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by shinmaru » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:18 pm
I think something will go terrible wrong with the Super Dragon Ball wish.
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by dbgtFO » Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:26 pm
LightBing wrote:I don't think they elaborated on what neutral space really is, or it's location. Only that it's outside of Universe 6 and 7. At least that's what I remember.
Yeah, I don't recall them elaborating on it either.
My assumption has always been, that it's just empty space right between the two universes, like a border of some sort.