DBZ Season 1 - High quality clips!

TheMajinRedComet · Post by **TheMajinRedComet** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:25 pm

Because grain is a easy thing to fix, but film damage isnt.

DBW · Post by **DBW** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:34 pm

TheMajinRedComet wrote:Because grain is a easy thing to fix, but film damage isnt.

Actually, it's the exact opposite of that. The sentence should read:

"Because grain is a cheap thing to fix, but film damage isnt."

It is easier to just run some DVNR filters; however, removing grain without distorting the material is extremely difficult, if not impossible. Cleaning film damage is a long and expensive process, but otherwise not that hard to do while keeping the integrity of the material (I'm sure most people cold do it with photoshop if they wanted).

email2003 · Post by **email2003** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:38 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:You all are a bunch of nerds you know that?

And!? Fans of Star Wars complained about the original trilogy being fixed and they complained about it and got their wish. They released the old Star Wars they wanted with nothing remastered or fixed. So what makes us nerds about DBZ?

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:28 pm

Wow, I mean, this shit looks fantastic. I mean really, look at it! Just fantastic work FUNimation!

Chaotic Strike · Post by **Chaotic Strike** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:34 pm

meh thats terrible can someone confirm those screen It would be appreciated as I may not buy any of these sets if they look like that.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:38 pm

Chaotic Strike wrote:meh thats terrible can someone confirm those screen It would be appreciated as I may not buy any of these sets if they look like that.

What exactly do you mean by confirm those screens? They're real, if that's what you're asking, but somewhat misleading. In scenes where the camera is purpsosefully shaking (like say from a character powering-up) fine black lines will occasionaly fade in and out, as in the pictures above. They only dissapear for a fraction of a second, but it is noticeable when it happens repeatedly.

b_boult · Post by **b_boult** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:39 pm

Hahaha wow that can't be real surely?

Since when does DVNR destroy thick black lines?

Edit: i was already posting sorry dude

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:41 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote: They only dissapear for a fraction of a second, but it is noticeable when it happens repeatedly.

Or when somebody purposely watches for them so they can find something to bitch about.

Chaotic Strike · Post by **Chaotic Strike** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:43 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:
Chaotic Strike wrote:meh thats terrible can someone confirm those screen It would be appreciated as I may not buy any of these sets if they look like that.
What exactly do you mean by confirm those screens? They're real, if that's what you're asking, but somewhat misleading. In scenes where the camera is purpsosefully shaking (like say from a character powering-up) fine black lines will occasionaly fade in and out, as in the pictures above. They only dissapear for a fraction of a second, but it is noticeable when it happens repeatedly.

k thanks if they stayed that way for more than 2 secs I wouldnt even bother buying those sets but still looking like a rent right now.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:50 pm

Chaotic Strike wrote:k thanks if they stayed that way for more than 2 secs I wouldnt even bother buying those sets but still looking like a rent right now.

I would recommend renting it first in any case, especially if that kind of thing will influence your decision to buy it. The video quality does suffer from a few problems from time to time, its up to you to decide whether it's worth buying anyways.

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:51 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:Or when somebody purposely watches for them so they can find something to bitch about.

Actually, I stumbled upon this when I was actually starting to enjoy the set. I didn't even know this kind of thing could happen, y'know?

But it is noticeable when these scenes occur and its quite bothersome.

EDIT: Might I add that the Oni-guy screencap is from a shot where his face is only visible for a few frames and I don't mean it's a short shot. I mean, the blurring completely ruins his face to the point where it can only be seen for a few frames.

ect5150 · Post by **ect5150** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:57 pm

Brad Redfield wrote:
Deus ex Machina wrote:Or when somebody purposely watches for them so they can find something to bitch about.

Actually, I stumbled upon this when I was actually starting to enjoy the set. I didn't even know this kind of thing could happen, y'know?

But it is noticeable when these scenes occur and its quite bothersome.

EDIT: Might I add that the Oni-guy screencap is from a shot where his face is only visible for a few frames.

I noticed the same things in other episodes as well, just through normal viewing. They did too much noise reduction in some cases and didn't bother to watch their own encodes before shipping it out the door. Otherwise, this type of stuff shouldn't have happened.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:11 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:You all are a bunch of nerds you know that?

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The Prince · Post by **The Prince** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:14 pm

Those "goof ups" are really too bad but fortunately they're not that noticable. I only noticed the Nappa shot.

Pieter · Post by **Pieter** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:20 pm

Those shots are amazing. I checked the ungrained dragonbox bootleg of the first shot and his entire mouth doesn't just disappear, though all grain is gone. I believe this got lost by some of their other filters, like the one used to repair damage.

Acid_Reign · Post by **Acid_Reign** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:26 pm

God, it's painfully apparent now that they either didn't check for any possible screw-ups at all, or just scrubbed along the collective timeline and said, "that looks good." Who would have guessed that a professional dubbing company could be so outrageously careless? I am immediately reminded of Photoshop beginners that filter-whore their graphics and then boast about how skilled they are.

The Prince · Post by **The Prince** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:28 pm

Acid_Reign wrote:God, it's painfully apparent now that they either didn't check for any possible screw-ups at all, or just scrubbed along the collective timeline and said, "that looks good." Who would have guessed that a professional dubbing company could be so outrageously careless? I am immediately reminded of Photoshop beginners that filter-##### their graphics and then boast about how skilled they are.

Lol! Fabulous choice of words. I'll agree it is very lazy and sloppy "remastering" but I still think it's worth the money.

email2003 · Post by **email2003** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:29 pm

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Just to show you the FUNi version compared to the bootleg/DragonBox DVD.

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:42 pm

Did Nappa forget to wipe off the toothpaste?

*goes off to watch those eps*

Holy crap, it's even worse in motion... it looks like Nappa's foaming at the mouth....

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:55 pm

Could you please rip that scene for me, Castor? I'd love to show it to some people who think that this isn't on the DVDs.