Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[JulieYBM]

Tate is better off not supervising this episode. This mini arc isn't really significant, so it's wise on Toei's part to let him focus on the upcoming arc. Naoki Tate's last episode was #38, so he will have at least 14 weeks for his next supervision appearance. That's plenty time for him to do his usual stuff. I wonder if Toei takes advantage of this mini arc to let the main staff focus the next arc by allowing them more weeks than usual in-between.

Shimanuki, Tate, and Karasawa really need to focus on the next arc. Yashima is doing better job sacrificing than Kitano, so I wouldn't mind him being on the rotation.

Tate can't supervise for fourteen weeks if there are no animators to do the key animation for him to supervise. Tate's next episode will probably look just as bad, especially if he has no good animators working under him. It's pretty clear nobody is giving Tate any favoring, despite being the series' one consistently-appearing good animator.

[ArchedThunder]

i seriously hate kitano. I hope he gets replaced by someone else.

I would love it if this was his last episode and with the reshuffling of staff he's basically replaced by Yoichi Onishi or Ken Otsuka.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

I feel like if that scene on Kaio's planet were drawn better, I'd have actually really liked it. It's not easy to do rotating background animation like that. I quite liked it for the most part. Someone should gif it (not me, I'm going to sleep).

Done.

You can tell it's inspired by this awesome scene from Battle of Gods:

[Sonicjamareiz]

Why is the art style so GT-esque in this episode with the huge shiny chins and pointy noses.

[Sodhi]

I would not be surprised if next episode would be yashima's solo. Guy really does his job.

[ArchedThunder]

I would not be surprised if next episode would be yashima's solo. Guy really does his job.

I don't know, some shots really scream Yashima, but there are also quite a fair amount of shots that looks a lot more polished that a typical Yashima episode and there seems to be a lot of animation. I'm thinking he might have a second supervisor with him for the first time on this show.
Watching the NEP again the next episode actually looks like it could be pretty okay.

EDIT: Looking back over it the only shots that REALLY look like typical Yashima to me are when Goku moves his arms after blocking a kick early in the NEP and then late in the NEP when he is flying at the screen while it rotates.

[Cursemark505]

Kitano is awful.

He makes even Toshio Deguchi look good in comparison. That's saying a lot.

[kinisking]

Tate is better off not supervising this episode. This mini arc isn't really significant, so it's wise on Toei's part to let him focus on the upcoming arc. Naoki Tate's last episode was #38, so he will have at least 14 weeks for his next supervision appearance. That's plenty time for him to do his usual stuff. I wonder if Toei takes advantage of this mini arc to let the main staff focus the next arc by allowing them more weeks than usual in-between.

Shimanuki, Tate, and Karasawa really need to focus on the next arc. Yashima is doing better job sacrificing than Kitano, so I wouldn't mind him being on the rotation.

Tate can't supervise for fourteen weeks if there are no animators to do the key animation for him to supervise. Tate's next episode will probably look just as bad, especially if he has no good animators working under him. It's pretty clear nobody is giving Tate any favoring, despite being the series' one consistently-appearing good animator.

What? Karasawa has been great.

[JulieYBM]

What? Karasawa has been great.

Karasawa's never been tested. We know Tate is a good animator from his prior work but Karasawa himself has never been trusted with an important shot that requires many drawings.

[ArchedThunder]

So did Lee Joo-hyon do Part A? Because that half didn't look too bad, not a whole lot of motion outside of the Galik Gun which was okay.

[kinisking]

So did Lee Joo-hyon do Part A? Because that half didn't look too bad, not a whole lot of motion outside of the Galik Gun which was okay.

I thought the Galick gun was great. I feel like we're finally getting to DBZ levels of destruction during combat. But i'm starting to agree with the people that said galick gun is popping up too much. He used it like once in DBZ but now it's starting to become Vegeta's kamehameha

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Animation Supervisors
Lee Joo-hyon & Kitano Yukihiro

Is this the first time we have a korean supervisor (at least in SUPER)?

[MajinMan]

Well, at least they used one of their worst animators/supervisors on a fillerish episode. Maybe they didn't want Tate working hard on this episode so he could focus on something later down the line in the new Trunks arc.

[dbgtFO]

My hopes and dreams are shattered!

It's only so many times you get a chance to make a pun with Tate's name.
Consider my opinion of you in Taters

[Ajay]

Consider my opinion of you in Taters

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Speaking on Tate. I went back and rewatched the episode. He did quite a bit more than I originally thought. My guesses from the NEP weren't actually as wrong as I thought. Here's what I believe to be his work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrQ-TV1KcZ4

I'm a little iffy on the Gotenks transformation itself, but the Monaka reactions are definitely him. It's very strange seeing his work so heavily filtered through another supervisor.

I wonder how these uncredited situations come about. Was he just sat in an office and Kitano was like, "Hey bud, wanna do a couple of cuts to make sure this is done on time?"

[JulieYBM]

Consider my opinion of you in Taters

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Speaking on Tate. I went back and rewatched the episode. He did quite a bit more than I originally thought. My guesses from the NEP weren't actually as wrong as I thought. Here's what I believe to be his work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrQ-TV1KcZ4

I'm a little iffy on the Gotenks transformation itself, but the Monaka reactions are definitely him. It's very strange seeing his work so heavily filtered through another supervisor.

I wonder how these uncredited situations come about. Was he just sat in an office and Kitano was like, "Hey bud, wanna do a couple of cuts to make sure this is done on time?"

What probably happened was the episode was falling behind, there were some action-heavy cuts that needed to be done and Tate was the only good animator the production assistant could find. That or Tate originally planned on being the animation supervisor but was pulled off to work on One Piece: Heart of Gold and these cuts were all he managed to finish.

[Lord Beerus]

What a stinker, visually speaking, this episode was. Kitano should be kicked out of rotation for how he supervised this catastrophe.

[ArchedThunder]

I doubt they pulled Tate off of the show for something else, the dude's been working on nothing but Super for almost a year and he's one of the best animators on the show. I'm betting he has 47.

[FortuneSSJ]

Back to the main episode itself though, I feel like if that scene on Kaio's planet were drawn better, I'd have actually really liked it. It's not easy to do rotating background animation like that. I quite liked it for the most part. Someone should gif it (not me, I'm going to sleep).

This made me laugh.

[A Man named RJ]

Kitano is awful.

He makes even Toshio Deguchi look good in comparison. That's saying a lot.

Jeez, you cant get much worse than this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ha5Cg_QsqY

(when the manga looks like this)

Spoiler:

I invoke the Animator Draft.
DB super gets Deguchi, and Kitano gets shipped off to One Piece where he'll have a bit more time and staff to do the episodes. I also vote that DB super shows up on Yoshikazu Tomita's schedule


--WOAH that was ugly. I cant help but feel that the Upcoming One Piece Tv Special may have something to do with it..... That Said i have no idea why Toei wouldnt just put it in the basic anime as a filler arc. It would advertise the movie, it would put the show back a little bit, and it wouldnt leech animators from other projects.

And is it just me, or does the NEP look like something on episode 24 levels of garbage? How on EARTH do you get such a spectacular quality downgrade, the entire episode felt like it was Uchiyama on Steroids, hell, even that planet rotating cut looked like that Cut during the Uchiyama episode where goku fights 19, and next episode only looks worse.


This Episode was just horrid, with only one decent shot in there of Kaio's rotating Planet... that's it