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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by KaiserNeko » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:46 pm

It will be, honestly.

Buu needs to be a saga where we refresh. That joke will need to be retired proper.
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Post by FoolsGil » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:56 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:It will be, honestly.

Buu needs to be a saga where we refresh. That joke will need to be retired proper.
Might I suggest Krillin punching his V card with Eighteen, the resulting Kamehameha Wave fires and blows the Owned count to smithereens? Followed by a montage of all the owned moments with Barbara Streisand's The Way We Were Playing in the Background? :P

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Post by Noah » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:29 pm

KaiserNeko wrote:It will be, honestly.

Buu needs to be a saga where we refresh. That joke will need to be retired proper.
But... Dabura stone spit, Super Boo's chocolate beam... :cry:
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by jcogginsa » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:35 pm

Noah wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:It will be, honestly.

Buu needs to be a saga where we refresh. That joke will need to be retired proper.
But... Dabura stone spit, Super Boo's chocolate beam... :cry:
Super Boo if I recall could be played as a last stand instead of a owned moment. Like how the destructo Disk shattering on Cell wasn't counted.

As for the Dabura spit...Piccolo Owned count: 1

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:44 pm

I like the owned count and don't think it should be retired. Just use it for the times he legitimately gets owned.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Danfun64 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:34 pm

I apologize if my critique of World's Strongest was too harsh (and in hindsight I think it was...)

I imagine that if you guys adopt BOG/Resurrection'F'/Super that the Krillin Owned Counter would be reset at that point, as it is transitioning into a new series...that is, if the Krillin Owned Counter is kept at all after Boo.
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Post by BlazingBarrrager » Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:40 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:I like the owned count and don't think it should be retired. Just use it for the times he legitimately gets owned.
It's going to retire nonetheless since the only two things that happen to Krillin in the Buu saga is getting spat on by Dabura and getting turned into chocolate after trying to stall. Aside from that, the jokes are generally going to come from Mr. Satan. Really if they were going to do one last owned count outside of the Cell saga it would be the spit scene. Super Buu turning everyone to chocolate is more like the Kienzan failure on Cell than funny.

...though I do wonder how they'll play out Mr. Popo in that scene. lol

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:40 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
KaiserNeko wrote:It will be, honestly.

Buu needs to be a saga where we refresh. That joke will need to be retired proper.
Might I suggest Krillin punching his V card with Eighteen, the resulting Kamehameha Wave fires and blows the Owned count to smithereens? Followed by a montage of all the owned moments with Barbara Streisand's The Way We Were Playing in the Background? :P
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Post by dbzfan7 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:17 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:I like the owned count and don't think it should be retired. Just use it for the times he legitimately gets owned.
I agree. Hell there was some completely made up owned counts instead of legitimate ones. I think the joke should be kept to legit manga owns, or anime if you want to get a few more out.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:58 am

So Will Dumplin return for Xenoverse 2 or Project fusion if its localized.

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Post by ShadowBardock89 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:25 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:So Will Dumplin return for Xenoverse 2 or Project fusion if its localized.
Or Spudz?
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Post by Saiga » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:33 am

Retiring the KOC with him sleeping with 18 would be pretty tasteless IMO. She shouldn't be treated like his prize or reward for putting up with crap.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:43 am

What's next? Having an "18 Owned" count and adding to it when Krillin tells her to go back in the kitchen while he fights Freeza's troops?
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Post by Kid Buu » Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:50 am

Saiga wrote:Retiring the KOC with him sleeping with 18 would be pretty tasteless IMO. She shouldn't be treated like his prize or reward for putting up with crap.
Not that I condone it, but it's clearly why she was created.

Hilarious how Toriyama can take a generic thug like #17, add boobs and give her a random crush on one of the protagonists, and she becomes one of the more popular characters in the series.
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Post by FoolsGil » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:17 am

Saiga wrote:Retiring the KOC with him sleeping with 18 would be pretty tasteless IMO. She shouldn't be treated like his prize or reward for putting up with crap.
My suggestion wasn't made to demean Eighteen as a prize, but my favorite bittersweet trope is Earn Your Happy Ending. Krillin was bitchslapped through a house and never looked back, Why not retire the Count when he's finally achieved happiness? I don't see it as demeaning Eighteen as a character, she's going to become the mother of his child, how is adding fireworks going to make her a reward, if everything else before it didn't?

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Post by MozillaVulpix » Wed Jun 15, 2016 3:54 am

I honestly don't mind the KOC, either. It's only obnoxious in Season 1 where Krillin would be made the Butt Monkey for no reason other than TFS felt like it. Popo kicking him off the lookout just for opening his mouth is one example I can think of. Or when his legitimately awesome moments like killing most of the Saibamen are glossed over because...reasons.
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Post by rereboy » Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:11 am

Saiga wrote:Retiring the KOC with him sleeping with 18 would be pretty tasteless IMO. She shouldn't be treated like his prize or reward for putting up with crap.
Why? Getting someone like 18 and then a family is his dream and the very opposite of him getting owned. And after he gets his dream, can he really get owned like before? That's why it would make sense for the joke to stop at that point. I don't see how that translates into her being a prize... she gets with him because she wants to.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:20 am

Exactly. Even if the joke was played as described earlier - the owned count being destroyed by an energy blast, akin to the 'Galick Gun' joke we'd already had with Vegeta and Bulma's sex - I wouldn't really view it as 18 being demeaned as Kuririn's 'reward'. It's more so Kuririn finally achieving what he's always wanted out of life, happiness that he gets to share with a partner.

Besides, I see people listing 'legit owned moments' for him in the Boo arc, and...I'm not really seeing it. Dabura's spit? Piccolo gets turned to stone too, so hardly just a Kuririn thing. Getting killed by Super Boo? Kinda happens to everyone else on the Lookout too, and especially considering the way he specifically tries to buy time for everyone to get away even though he knows he's beyond way outclassed? How...How exactly is that an 'owned' moment? On any level?

I mean, I guess I'd be fine with it if it actually were treated as such in the Abridged, because I understand that one joke does not mean that that's the character in a nutshell in reality...but the fact that some are already legitimately seeing that as an 'owned' moment is kinda depressing to say the least.
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by Saiga » Wed Jun 15, 2016 10:24 am

Kid Buu wrote: Not that I condone it, but it's clearly why she was created.
I was going to bring up Toriyama's comment on that before, but either way that's just one part I really wish they wouldn't remain faithful to.
MozillaVulpix wrote:Or when his legitimately awesome moments like killing most of the Saibamen are glossed over because...reasons.
Hah, I remember that one bugging the shit out of me in season 1. Maybe because it's the kind of thing that can easily be misconstrued as genuine commentary on Kuririn's achievement?
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Re: DragonBall Z Abridged

Post by jcogginsa » Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:54 pm

You know, in my ways Krillin feels like the Main character of this arc in the same way Vegeta was on Namek

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