Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by VegettoEX » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:02 am

ABED wrote:I don't agree. Kids' shows by their nature have to be written with a level of simplicity because of the intellectual development of children.
I don't agree with your not agreeing.

We've been occasionally throwing Animaniacs on via Netflix. The kids' cartoon. Holy shit that show is raunchy. Never understand half that stuff when I casually watched when I was... I guess 11 or so.

(To be fair, I didn't really watch it that much, so maybe I just missed all that stuff.)

Kids' shows don't HAVE to be EXCLUSIVELY written on that level. That's part of the entire point being made here where those kinds of shows (and the evergreen examples of things like Pixar movies) have things that can appeal to adult sensibilities as well, despite being far from the target demographic.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by ABED » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:09 am

Kids' shows don't HAVE to be EXCLUSIVELY written on that level. That's part of the entire point being made here where those kinds of shows (and the evergreen examples of things like Pixar movies) have things that can appeal to adult sensibilities as well, despite being far from the target demographic.
There's not just two levels, there are many levels. And Animaniacs wasn't really that raunchy. It had a few double entendres, not what I would call raunchy.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by omaro34 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:09 am

I'm 38 years old, happily married, and with 2 kids. I'm a basketball/boxing guy first and always will be, but Dragonball will always be in my heart.

I grew up with Dragonball, and I loved it. Me and my kids watch Super every weekend together, and we all enjoy it for the most part (my kids enjoy it a little more than I do because I'm always comparing it to Z, but I enjoy it nonetheless despite my criticisms of Super on these forums).

Now if it gets in the way of your priorities such as your job and family, then that is an entirely different story.

Age is but a number my friend. Dragonball is the only cartoon/anime that I will watch with my kids and be genuinely invested into the show unlike other cartoons. Last Halloween I had a cape and turban costume for my son because he likes Piccolo just like I do. We all enjoy the show for different reasons, but I can honestly say that as long as Dragonball continues, I will always be interested in it no matter how old I get.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by MetaMoss » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:35 am

I'm only 20 myself right now, so I can't speak from personal experience, but my father, who introduced me to the series and was a pretty big fan himself, was 40 when he started watching DBZ back in 1998. He was a pretty darn socially adjusted adult, so I don't think you have too much to worry about. If you still enjoy watching Dragon Ball and it doesn't get in the way of your responsibilities, then why stop?
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:52 pm

I'm 25 and I will always enjoy the stuff I grew up with. I think liking kids stuff after your teens or maybe after the age of 10, will have people look down because people are raise to give up on childish things at a certain age if you want society to accept you. You will immediately be shunned by most adults if you still like children's stuff. Most people still view comic books as mindless junk for kids and feel like that you should be reading real literature instead. Most people that are 30 & older that well educated at a high paying job don't really watch kids shows or animated shows. They seem to just watch sports, the news or TV shows like The Wire, CSI, Law & Order, Empire, Game of Thrones, etc. I did ask if many adults that are not in their 20's if they have seen shows like Rick and Morty, Mike Tyson's Mysteries and Aqua Teen, they said no. They mainly know about the Fox Animated shows, but it seems like the late night AS shows are more popular with the nerdy geeky type of people.

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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by DreamedArtist » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:12 pm

I am 27 going 28 and I will always love watching classic Anime/Cartoons and I will never give 2 shits about what anyone thinks. It's like video games and movies same idea and If I wanna watch my porn then I WILL >:(

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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:25 pm

I don't really care what people are into, as long as it isn't harmful to others. For kids shows, there is a line between them. Shows like Barney & Friends, Thomas the Tank Engine, and Dora the Explore are aim to an audience between 2-5 years old kids (Kids that are not even in the 1st grade yet). Shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, DBZ and Transformers are shows aim to kids, but they can have serious moments and don't feel dumb down. Most people would feel like that person is a pedophile if they see an 20-50 year old adult literally watching Barney on their own (Without watching it with their children or their grand children).
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:08 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't really care what people are into, as long as it isn't harmful to others. For kids shows, there is a line between them. Shows like Barney & Friends, Thomas the Tank Engine, and Dora the Explore are aim to an audience between 2-5 years old kids (Kids that are not even in the 1st grade yet). Shows like Adventure Time, Regular Show, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, DBZ and Transformers are shows aim to kids, but they can have serious moments and don't feel dumb down. Most people would feel like that person is a pedophile if they see an 20-50 year old adult literally watching Barney on their own (Without watching it with their children or their grand children).
Those 'most people' would be irrational individuals, in that case, who one shouldn't trust to use a stove, let alone raise a child. To call someone something as damning as a 'pedophile' for watching a television series is leaps and bounds beyond any sort of sanity and logic.

Shin-chan and Doraemon are aimed at kids but have strong adult fan bases who appreciates those works as art. There's probably someone out there who appreciates the set and prop design of Thomas the Tank Engine or Barney, too.

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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by TripleRach » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:12 pm

precita wrote:
SpiritBombTriumphant wrote:EDIT: Just thought of this. There are teenagers and adults who watch My Little Pony. Just remember that there are worse out there if you really are bothered watching this show in your 30s.
Yeah, but, those people, well...you know. We know how they're stereotypes online and offline. Even if isn't fair I suppose.
I find it hard to see the issue with this. Yeah, I've heard a few horror stories about "Bronies," but I've also heard similar stories about other fandoms. People can be weird, and stereotypes are often derived from reality in some way, but blanket labeling groups of people rarely has positive or accurate results.

Everyone lives their lives and enjoys their hobbies in different ways. There are plenty of stereotypes about DB fans too, and even Kanzenshuu members specifically. But obviously we're not all the same here.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by Soppa Saia People » Thu Aug 04, 2016 4:17 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote:[spoiler]As a 32 year old myself, a few points.

First, I hate to break this to precita but you are indeed already legally an adult once you've hit your early 20s (by most countries' laws anyway). By 21 you're allowed to drink, gamble, drive, vote, and work a full time job - preferably spaced apart rather than all at once. :wink:

And Dragon Ball meanwhile is (in many cases rather obviously) a show that's aimed predominantly at middle school children in Japan. So if you're only just now having some kind of "Oh my god, am I'm too old for this shit?!" personal crisis at 30, you're probably more than a decade late on that. Adolescence has been over for you since roughly the mid-2000s or so, never mind childhood well before that.

I'm not trying to be nasty or asshole-ish there: I just bristle a bit when people look at their 20s, even in small/subtle ways, like its some kind of an extension of their childhood or teenage years when it should be anything but. It should be a time for serious growth as a human being (regarding aspects of your life that you have actual control over at least: that's not at all a knock on people who are genuinely stuck financially/economically in ways beyond their control, especially in these current times), and I've frustratingly known far, far, FAR too many people the past decade who don't at all see it that way.

Secondly, and of course most importantly, you ARE also taking care of your important adult responsibilities right? Money, food, roof over your head, etc? If so, then yeah, no problems there either.

Thirdly however, and more to the point: watching & liking A kids' show (or movie or book or whatever) as an adult is perfectly fine. I'll go the extra mile and even say that watching/reading & liking a FEW kids' shows/movies/books here and there as an adult is perfectly fine.

The way I see it though (and this is where I part ways pretty damned heavily and significantly with a tragically gigantic amount of present day geek culture and places like this community here) is that problems only start to arise if you're watching & liking almost damn near EXCLUSIVELY kids' media and little to nothing else besides. But I'd even go so far as to argue that that's a problem no matter what age you are, kid or adult.

No one, not even actual little kids, should be restricted to a media intake of almost exclusively children's programming & material. That way lies madness. Intellectually & creatively speaking that's roughly equivalent to trying to live on a diet of absolutely nothing but M&Ms, McDonald's, Doritos, and Yoo-Hoo. And make no mistake, with FLEETINGLY rare exceptions, children's media as a whole is in 99% of most cases the media/art equivalent of junk food (your Douglas Adams-types being particularly rare unicorn exceptions).

Not that adult media doesn't have more than its fair share of crappy junk food as well mind you, but its nowhere near as endemic as it is to the foundational nature of children's media, which by its very definition HAS to avoid exploring numerous topics, ideas, and concepts too closely and practice a certain degree of creative conservatism and rigid filtering (and I'm not at all just talking about surface-level stuff like swearing and violence either): something which becomes completely and especially needless by the time you're even a young teenager, much less a full blown adult.

This has for some years now become incredibly unpopular and unfashionable to point out, but its more than long overdue now I'd say: while its certainly true that you should never consider yourself too old for occasionally indulging in (some) child-like pursuits even as an adult, an unhealthily large number of people in the current cultural climate often tend to go WAY too far in the wrongheaded extreme of showing how “truly mature and un-selfconscious about their adulthood” they are by way of proudly and excessively wallowing in almost nothing but exclusively children's fluff as an adult.

A significant degree of people now seem to have taken a certain C.S. Lewis quote about “putting away childish things, including the desire to appear very grown up” WAY too excessively far and are using an otherwise perfectly valid and lovely sentiment (which largely amounts to “don't lose some of that youthful exuberance as you get older and don't use adulthood as a reason for getting too big of a self-important stick up your ass”) as a justification for running with it over a cliff of self-insulating infantilism, dashing headlong well over the line between “young at heart” and “manchild”.

Not letting adulthood stamp out any sense of good humored silliness in you seems to be increasingly mistaken right now for being one and the same thing as throwing away any and all semblance of intellectual curiosity for exploring more mature and deeper ideas and concepts in art/fiction. And I would argue that remaining a fan of children's material as an adult in and of itself is totally fine, but can indeed get to become a problem should you find yourself taking it to THAT far of an extreme where children's media is almost literally ALL that you're a fan of for vast stretches of your life. As a depressingly large number of people nowadays often tend to.

Even much of the absolute, mountain-peak smartest kids' material absolutely cannot act as a substitute of any sort for the degree of genuine depth and enrichment you'll find in older-skewed works. A healthy, growing mind (child or adult) absolutely NEEDS exposure to and reflection upon ideas and concepts that are well far apart from and beyond the children's realm. Cutting yourself off from that entirely (or close to entirely), at any age, will do nothing but harm for yourself in the long run.

A kids' show/book/movie every once in a while as an adult is one thing. But too much of that sort of thing at the expense of other, vastly more denser and enriching material will almost assuredly stunt your mental growth.

So long as you're keeping the time you spend with stuff like Dragon Ball in relative moderation and are balancing your viewing & reading habits out with a wide variety of other, vastly less junky stuff, then throwing the odd, occasional children's thing into an otherwise varied mix of media consumption is completely harmless and nothing to be at all embarrassed about.

Certainly not in this day and age especially, where a significant chunk of the online culture has for quite some years now sadly seemed to be hitting 25/30-ish years old without barely ever having moved a great deal too far outside the safety of the same comfort zone of movies and TV shows from when they were 7 years old (or stuff on a very closely similar spectrum). That's not a good thing. At all.

So long as you're not taking it anywhere near that far though, there's obviously no harm or shame to be had in indulging the odd child's work as an adult. Just be sure that your book/DVD shelf isn't overwhelmingly flooded predominantly with stuff from and relating to various cartoon/kids' TV blocks and suchlike. If (if) something like that is indeed the case for you, then I'd certainly more than recommend taking it easy for awhile on the cartoons and getting as far outside of that comfort zone as possible via exploring much, much more of what else is out there that's not so strictly cordoned off for small children. You'll be beyond amazed at a lot of what you'll find. And none of it is anything to be the least bit scared of or intimidated by.

Stay as young at heart as you like and keep an open mind to look for cool things in unconventional places like sometimes maybe the kids' section: just be self-aware and conscious enough to not take it so ridiculously far that you end up hermetically sealing yourself inside of an insulating kid-friendly bubble and ignoring/missing out on all kinds of other amazing works that are both awesome in themselves as well as beyond indispensable nourishment to an ever-expanding adult mind.[/spoiler]
I 100% agree, there's nothing wrong with watching a few kid shows, but only watching kid shows will raise eyebrows.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:44 pm

You never too old to enjoy anything in life. Dragon Ball's target audience may be children, but that shouldn't prevent you from find enjoyment in the product if you're in your 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s etc.

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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by shinmaru » Thu Aug 04, 2016 8:25 pm

I look at it as art. Adults are the ones that make the series possible in the first place. We adults create the story and draw every frame and do most of the voice acting. I still watch Teen Titans Go sometimes with my kid, and to be honest, I like it as much as he does.

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Post by samuraix123 » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:05 pm

shinmaru wrote:I look at it as art. Adults are the ones that make the series possible in the first place. We adults create the story and draw every frame and do most of the voice acting. I still watch Teen Titans Go sometimes with my kid, and to be honest, I like it as much as he does.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by TheBlackPaladin » Thu Aug 04, 2016 10:55 pm

I regret not having much to say that's new, but if only to reinforce the common consensus...

Nope. Nothing wrong whatsoever (heck, you could be 70 and it would be OK to watch the show)! I mean, at the theatrical screening of RoF that I went to, I'd have to say that the overwhelming majority of theater-goers were in their mid 20's to late 30's. Heck, I'm nearly 30, and I'm one of the many people who were bummed that Hey Arnold! was never properly concluded, and I was also one of the many people who were through-the-roof happy to learn about the upcoming Jungle Movie in 2017, which will finally give the story a proper conclusion.

I think the whole idea of being "too old for a show" comes from the jerks we met in grade school. I used to be nervous as hell in my late teens about revealing that I liked Dragon Ball and other "kids shows" because I thought there was no one else out there like that. Well, you know what? Turns out there are tons of people out there like that. So, it's all good, I say! :D
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Post by ABED » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:22 pm

TheBlackPaladin wrote:I think the whole idea of being "too old for a show" comes from the jerks we met in grade school. I used to be nervous as hell in my late teens about revealing that I liked Dragon Ball and other "kids shows" because I thought there was no one else out there like that. Well, you know what? Turns out there are tons of people out there like that. So, it's all good, I say! :D
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:52 pm

DBZ was consider to be dead when I was in High School (2005-2009. I finish High School in May 2009) seeing that Naruto and Bleach where the biggest Shonen franchises at the time. I remember I did see people that was like "DBZ is still a thing?" and "People still like DBZ?" before 2014.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by sintzu » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:30 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:DBZ was consider to be dead when I was in High School seeing that Naruto and Bleach where the biggest Shonen franchises at the time.

I remember I did see people that was like "DBZ is still a thing?" and "People still like DBZ?" before 2014.
They were never as big as Z and they never will be.

Z is a classic that will always be a thing and will always be liked which I can't say for Naruto and Bleach considering how irrelevant they both became after 2010 which I think was after the pain and Aizen arcs.
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Re: Watching the series in your 30's, is that too old?

Post by VegettoEX » Fri Aug 05, 2016 2:42 pm

Something to consider:

These series are MADE BY people in their 20s/30s/40s, as well. At some point, there's obviously some adult sensibilities and tastes slipping in, just inherently because of who's creating it. Hell, Toriyama himself just slipped by the 60 mark!

(And on a personal note, something like Kanzenshuu doesn't up and get created by a teenager, either. Well... I mean... it technically was created by a teenager... 18ish years ago, though... the state its in now with its sensibilities and goals and overall mantra isn't something a teenager can do, though.)

Doesn't mean, at the end of the day, it's not still "for kids", but eh.
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Post by sangofe » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:30 pm

Who cares what others think? You decide what's right or wrong. If you decide you're too old, then you are. If you decide you're not, then you're not. Simple as that.

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Post by SupremeSSJ » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:33 pm

27 here. Still waiting for Dragon Boxes and Super, I'll be 40 by then LMAO :D

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