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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:20 pm

nite_jay wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:Misinformation. I hate it and I hate how it spreads.
TheGreatness25 wrote:Excellent post. Look, Kanzenshuu at one time simply did not allow you to post "Hercule" or "Frieza" but now you can, I'd imagine because this place grew beyond that and wants to show acceptance to all fans (even of the "evil" Funimation dub). So let's not police the fans on what version of the names they use.
Tbf, that I in Freeza looks ugly as fuck :lol:
Same! Whenever I see "Frieza" I unintentionally read it as "Fryza". :lol:
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:30 pm

Nothing wrong with Frieza. To me, anyway. :P
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:39 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Nothing wrong with Frieza. To me, anyway. :P
http://www.VegettoEX.com/2009/12/16/why ... s-me-nuts/
Those are basically my mine problems with it, it's the only dub name I activily dislike. Like I can put up with Tien, but Frieza ? Naw.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:42 pm

When people say "That's not canon" or "that's only in the anime" as a way to shut down your arguments, or when it's completely irrelevant.

I just don't like when people in general force their viewpoints on others in this franchise. like if you say Gotenks ssj3 would beat gohan, you get laughed at in a condescending way "HAHAHAHHA! Gohan is stronger kid! You don't know dragonball! You're stupid. you're wrong. accept it. accept it! TELL ME I'm RIGHT! (foams at the mouth)"

Not everyone needs to use the same power scale as you, not everyone needs to hate and like what you hate and like.

OH! And people who look down on you for liking the dub! They keep saying toonami and funimation ruined dragonball, when really all it did was make it, and anime BOOM in the west. I don't care if you dislike rock music/faulconer and hate goku sounding like a man. "Goku sounding like a man is non canon! The canon version is the female voice! You're just a scrub!" If you hate it so much then either change the track to the japanaese score, or watch the subs. Either way shut up and stop attacking the dub like a weaboo. because all the "DUB IS CANCER!" stuff is so stupid it hurts. It's like when you see someone say George Lucas ruined star wars, or that'd it'd be better if he was never born and Irvin kershner never had to deal with him. I mean heck, while we're at it, let's get rid of Tomas Edison so we don't have to deal with electricity bills! We'll have FREE electricity!....Yep....no flaw in the logic there!

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Anime Kitten wrote:Nothing wrong with Frieza. To me, anyway. :P
http://www.VegettoEX.com/2009/12/16/why ... s-me-nuts/
Those are basically my mine problems with it, it's the only dub name I activily dislike. Like I can put up with Tien, but Frieza ? Naw.
It's one letter though....doesn't change how it's pronounced. Also I find the name Tien much better then TEN. Like what? Where's his brothers nine, eight and seven?
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:43 pm

Fans who are can't accept that the main audience of Dragon Ball is children. More specifically young boys. Yeah, Dragon Ball can be enjoyed by anyone, but ultimately the audience that Toei/Toriyama/Bandai are aiming for is children.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:46 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:http://www.VegettoEX.com/2009/12/16/why ... s-me-nuts/
Those are basically my mine problems with it, it's the only dub name I activily dislike. Like I can put up with Tien, but Frieza ? Naw.
Yeah, I read that, funnily enough. I don't get the issue though. And I agree with LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta on "Ten".
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:52 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:Nothing wrong with Frieza. To me, anyway. :P
http://www.VegettoEX.com/2009/12/16/why ... s-me-nuts/
Those are basically my mine problems with it, it's the only dub name I activily dislike. Like I can put up with Tien, but Frieza ? Naw.
It's one letter though....doesn't change how it's pronounced. Also I find the name Tien much better then TEN. Like what? Where's his brothers nine, eight and seven?
It kinda does. His name isn't Ten though, it's Tenshinhan. And the name change really serves no purpose other then to give him a last name, it's like changing Yamuchas name to Yama Cha.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:56 pm

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Soppa Saia People wrote: http://www.VegettoEX.com/2009/12/16/why ... s-me-nuts/
Those are basically my mine problems with it, it's the only dub name I activily dislike. Like I can put up with Tien, but Frieza ? Naw.
It's one letter though....doesn't change how it's pronounced. Also I find the name Tien much better then TEN. Like what? Where's his brothers nine, eight and seven?
It kinda does. His name isn't Ten though, it's Tenshinhan. And the name change really serves no purpose other then to give him a last name, it's like changing Yamuchas name to Yama Cha.

I know its Tenshinhan but if they kept it without the I then they'd call him Ten shinhan. Which is silly. Even tenshinhan sounds silly. It's like one of those names you hear people change their names from so it's not awkaward every time they meet people, like nina dobrev changing her name

Also are you saying Frieza is pronounced differently then Freeza?
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by ABED » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:16 pm

I don't think Tenshinhan sounds silly at all, certainly not any sillier than Tien Shinhan or just Tien.
Either way shut up and stop attacking the dub like a weaboo.
This grinds my gears, terms like this. You don't want to be attacked for liking the dub, don't attack other people for liking the original. It goes both ways.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:22 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:

It's one letter though....doesn't change how it's pronounced. Also I find the name Tien much better then TEN. Like what? Where's his brothers nine, eight and seven?
It kinda does. His name isn't Ten though, it's Tenshinhan. And the name change really serves no purpose other then to give him a last name, it's like changing Yamuchas name to Yama Cha.

I know its Tenshinhan but if they kept it without the I then they'd call him Ten shinhan. Which is silly. Even tenshinhan sounds silly. It's like one of those names you hear people change their names from so it's not awkaward every time they meet people, like nina dobrev changing her name

Also are you saying Frieza is pronounced differently then Freeza?
Ten Shinhan sounds (and looks) a hell of a lot better then Tien Shinhan. Also Tenshinhan is awkward ? It's 3 syllables.
No but it looks like it is.
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Either way shut up and stop attacking the dub like a weaboo.
This grinds my gears, terms like this. You don't want to be attacked for liking the dub, don't attack other people for liking the original. It goes both ways.
The term "wee a boo" in general just really annoys me, it's such a "I don't want to have a discussion, therefore I'll start name calling". It's so childish.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:28 pm

"[insert obligatory game sequel] is the best DBZ game evar!!!"
Hate to break it to ya, but some of those games apply to more than Dragon Ball Z. I don't mind using it as a general term for casual to non-fans, but still. Also, "Dragon Ball Z Xenoverse".
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:36 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:"[insert obligatory game sequel] is the best DBZ game evar!!!"
Hate to break it to ya, but some of those games apply to more than Dragon Ball Z. I don't mind using it as a general term for casual to non-fans, but still. Also, "Dragon Ball Z Xenoverse".
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:29 pm

ABED wrote:I don't think Tenshinhan sounds silly at all, certainly not any sillier than Tien Shinhan or just Tien.
Either way shut up and stop attacking the dub like a weaboo.
This grinds my gears, terms like this. You don't want to be attacked for liking the dub, don't attack other people for liking the original. It goes both ways.

You mis understand. I don't attack people for liking the original, I just don't like people who attack people for liking a version other then their own preference. I'm not upset they prefer the Japanese version, I'm upset they have to attack people who like the dub.


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LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote: It kinda does. His name isn't Ten though, it's Tenshinhan. And the name change really serves no purpose other then to give him a last name, it's like changing Yamuchas name to Yama Cha.

I know its Tenshinhan but if they kept it without the I then they'd call him Ten shinhan. Which is silly. Even tenshinhan sounds silly. It's like one of those names you hear people change their names from so it's not awkaward every time they meet people, like nina dobrev changing her name

Also are you saying Frieza is pronounced differently then Freeza?
Ten Shinhan sounds (and looks) a hell of a lot better then Tien Shinhan. Also Tenshinhan is awkward ? It's 3 syllables.
No but it looks like it is.
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Either way shut up and stop attacking the dub like a weaboo.
This grinds my gears, terms like this. You don't want to be attacked for liking the dub, don't attack other people for liking the original. It goes both ways.
The term "wee a boo" in general just really annoys me, it's such a "I don't want to have a discussion, therefore I'll start name calling". It's so childish.
I just prefer those 2 dub names. That's me though.

And I don't go around attacking people if that's what u think. I only call people a weaboo if they start a first attack and act like a weaboo(someone who will attack people for liking the dub and be Japanese version eletists).

Weaboo is a good term. Just don't use it wrong, which you're not noticing that I'm not doing. As I didn't call anyone a weaboo accept the people I'm referring to who will attack people for liking the dub. I mean if there was someone attacking someone for liking the Japanese version and being a dub eleitist, I'd call them a westaboo. Like what you like, just don't attack people. Both have their strengths. IMO insults aren't bad as long as you don't throw the first one, but sticking up for yourself is called for at times, and also its fun to mock jerks.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by nite_jay » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:41 pm

Soppa Saia People wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote: It kinda does. His name isn't Ten though, it's Tenshinhan. And the name change really serves no purpose other then to give him a last name, it's like changing Yamuchas name to Yama Cha.

I know its Tenshinhan but if they kept it without the I then they'd call him Ten shinhan. Which is silly. Even tenshinhan sounds silly. It's like one of those names you hear people change their names from so it's not awkaward every time they meet people, like nina dobrev changing her name

Also are you saying Frieza is pronounced differently then Freeza?
Ten Shinhan sounds (and looks) a hell of a lot better then Tien Shinhan. Also Tenshinhan is awkward ? It's 3 syllables.
I don't really mind that many dub differences, and I by all means welcome any well informed Dragonball fan but, Tenshinhan flows a lot better than Tien Shinhan for me. The extra syllable added in Tien Shinhan just throws things off and sounds awkward.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by ABED » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:56 pm

IMO insults aren't bad as long as you don't throw the first one, but sticking up for yourself is called for at times, and also its fun to mock jerks.
True, but be clever. Weeaboo is too silly to be remotely insulted by.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:07 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta, I don't really think you understand with that word means. Being a weeaboo doesn't mean a person who attacks english dubs of anime or even disparages people because they prefer them. A weeaboo is a person who is obsessed with Japanese culture and has this myth in their head of Japan being all the ultimate culture wonderland with nothing wrong with it. They throw in little Japanese words in their sentences to be cute when they really don't know them and look down on others who don't. And I don't think it's right for you to just call someone that if they don't like your version of an anime. If they attack someone, call them ignorant or arrogant but weeaboo is not the right term to use in that situation.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:11 pm

nite_jay wrote:
Soppa Saia People wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:

I know its Tenshinhan but if they kept it without the I then they'd call him Ten shinhan. Which is silly. Even tenshinhan sounds silly. It's like one of those names you hear people change their names from so it's not awkaward every time they meet people, like nina dobrev changing her name

Also are you saying Frieza is pronounced differently then Freeza?
Ten Shinhan sounds (and looks) a hell of a lot better then Tien Shinhan. Also Tenshinhan is awkward ? It's 3 syllables.
I don't really mind that many dub differences, and I by all means welcome any well informed Dragonball fan but, Tenshinhan flows a lot better than Tien Shinhan for me. The extra syllable added in Tien Shinhan just throws things off and sounds awkward.
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2. I can respect that. For me it's the lack of it that sounds weird. I just think tien sounds best! :)
I'm not a big fan of the sub exclusive names. Taikoen for example sounds to much like kaioken.


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IMO insults aren't bad as long as you don't throw the first one, but sticking up for yourself is called for at times, and also its fun to mock jerks.
True, but be clever. Weeaboo is too silly to be remotely insulted by.
You'd be surprised by how much power people give to words (which is weird because if all the word can do is hurt you...why give it power?)

And I don't really care if it hurts somebody. Not my intent. It's more about making me and others laugh at the jerk's patheticness.



Bansho64 wrote:LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta, I don't really think you understand with that word means. Being a weeaboo doesn't mean a person who attacks english dubs of anime or even disparages people because they prefer them. A weeaboo is a person who is obsessed with Japanese culture and has this myth in their head of Japan being all the ultimate culture wonderland with nothing wrong with it. They throw in little Japanese words in their sentences to be cute when they really don't know them and look down on others who don't. """""""And I don't think it's right for you to just call someone that if they don't like your version of an anime.""""""""""""" If they attack someone, call them ignorant or arrogant but weeaboo is not the right term to use in that situation.
What I put into a lot of parentheses there I agree with, but you should re read my messages....Because I wasn't doing that. My message was the exact opposite of that. Go read it. I was saying those who HARRASS OTHERS FOR NOT AGREEING WITH SUB>DUB ARE WEABOOS. Big difference from just hating on them for not liking what I like.

From what I understand a weaboo is-someone obsessed with Japanese culture who thinks they know all about it but have limited knowledge, and look down on anyone who doesn't think Japanese is the only option.

If that's correct, then I used the words right. Someone who goes around bashing dub fans for liking the dub is in fact a weaboo. So I don't believe I'm using it wrong, if I am I'm not seeing it. I think bashing someone for liking sub OR dub is childish and douchey. Like if one version is so much better and the other sucks, then don't waste your time looking up GT or kai or super videos just to leave hate. The fans are gonna see it and be offended. I hate rap music, so I just avoid rap. I don't go to rap videos and interact with people I wont have naything but a fight with. There's no logic behind that.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Adrian Malacoda » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:13 pm

One thing about this fandom that really does grind my gears is the misconception that there is a singular "English version" of the franchise. Yes, the US dub is an English version - but so are the subs, the US released manga, and several other English dubs of various levels of quality. All of these are in English! None of these are any more official or any more English than another.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Bansho64 » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:18 pm

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta, even if they do insult the dub and people who like it, that doesn't make them a weeaboo. If they insult the people, that makes them ignorant and petty but not a weeaboo. You're making a big stretch between what a weeaboo is and what a jerk is. Harassment doesn't equal obsession.

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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:24 pm

Bansho64 wrote:LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta, even if they do insult the dub and people who like it, that doesn't make them a weeaboo. If they insult the people, that makes them ignorant and petty but not a weeaboo. You're making a big stretch between what a weeaboo is and what a jerk is. Harassment doesn't equal obsession.

I thought weaboos attack people for liking the dub. I'm not saying you cant prefer Japanese culture and not be a jerk. Tones of people here are respectfull about their separate opinion from my own. I'm always seeing the word used like this. Perhaps I'm using it wrong, kind of like how people use the word insanity as in the same thing as crazy. If I am, then my bad.
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