are you implying that Beerus is a walking Zombie now since elder kai offered his life in favor of ssj3 Goku.Khin wrote:How the hell that it change nothing ? It was stated that as long as Elder Kaioshin stays alive, Beerus would be fine. So there is no reason for Whis and Beerus to go to Kaioshin Realm and destroy Majin Boo. Heck, it was even shown how Whis was worried about Beerus when the Kaioshins was killed, but he realized that Beerus would be fine as long as Elder Kaioshin stays sealed in the Z-Sword.Kishido wrote:I read it and it won't change nothing
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What was implied is that if all Kaioshin dies, Beerus will die too. Back when Elder Kaioshin gave his life to Goku, the other Kaioshin is alive; so Beerus didn't die.Friezacooler wrote:are you implying that Beerus is a walking Zombie now since elder kai offered his life in favor of ssj3 Goku.
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so I take it as, it means all kaoshins from the 12 universes. cause I doubt Beerus or Whis would risk the cat his live during the Buy saga. so that statement can't just stand for universe 7 kaoshins. and even if elder kai has died his life span still within Goku, So don't know why Beerus didn't fall to the floor with Goku when the saiyan got laser gunned during R.O.F.Khin wrote:What was implied is that if all Kaioshin dies, Beerus will die too. Back when Elder Kaioshin gave his life to Goku, the other Kaioshin is alive; so Beerus didn't die.Friezacooler wrote:are you implying that Beerus is a walking Zombie now since elder kai offered his life in favor of ssj3 Goku.
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What do you mean ?Friezacooler wrote:cause I doubt Beerus or Whis would risk the cat his live during the Buy saga.
Why the hell would Beerus die in that scene ? Even if you assume Goku is linked to Beerus because of the Elder Kaioshin thing, Goku didn't die in RoF, he was just pierced.So don't know why Beerus didn't fall to the floor with Goku when the saiyan got laser gunned during R.O.F.
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He would have died if it wasn't for the sensu bean.Khin wrote:What do you mean ?Friezacooler wrote:cause I doubt Beerus or Whis would risk the cat his live during the Buy saga.
Whis would have definitely woken up Beerus, if his life was in danger during babidi's attack.
Why the hell would Beerus die in that scene ? Even if you assume Goku is linked to Beerus because of the Elder Kaioshin thing, Goku didn't die in RoF, he was just pierced.So don't know why Beerus didn't fall to the floor with Goku when the saiyan got laser gunned during R.O.F.
if Piccolo dies then Kami dies, so according to Whis if the Kaoshins die then Beerus dies. who the kaoshin they refer to is up for debate it could be all kaoshins, elder kai who is already death or Goku.
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He would have died, but that doesn't mean Beerus will also die.Friezacooler wrote:He would have died if it wasn't for the sensu bean.
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how does it not? it is same thing asKhin wrote:He would have died, but that doesn't mean Beerus will also die.Friezacooler wrote:He would have died if it wasn't for the sensu bean.
Piccolo and Kami.
Beerus dies if Goku dies.
or Beerus dies if all Kaoshins die but that would include Goku too since he has the life of a Kaoshin within him.
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As you said, Beerus presumably dies if all Kaioshins will die. There are other Kaioshins alive when Goku was in the brink of death in RoF, so it doesn't matter if Goku died at that time.Friezacooler wrote:how does it not? it same thing with Piccolo and Kami.
Beerus dies if Goku dies.
or Beerus dies if all Kaoshins die but that would include Goku too since he has the life of a Kaoshin within him.
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RE: Whis doing nothing to save Beerus.
I would expect that Whis doesn't regularly check in on the Kaioshin. If referring to his "do-over", that would require that he could 1) figure out and resolve the issue in 3 minutes, and 2) that he hasn't used that ability in a while. Since the trip to Earth takes as much time as an episode of anime, there's likely nothing he could do if Beerus were to suddenly drop dead.
I would expect that Whis doesn't regularly check in on the Kaioshin. If referring to his "do-over", that would require that he could 1) figure out and resolve the issue in 3 minutes, and 2) that he hasn't used that ability in a while. Since the trip to Earth takes as much time as an episode of anime, there's likely nothing he could do if Beerus were to suddenly drop dead.
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I think it might be a reach to assume that Whis and Whis-equivalents like Vados are all that invested in the fate of the gods in their universes as well. For all we know, it could simply be protocol for them to wait around for another God of Destruction to be appointed.
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Well isn't Elder Kaioshin a fusion originally? If you want to apply the logic that fusion automatically renders the person a non-Kaioshin in authority and species then Beerus should have disappeared the moment East Kaioshin fused with Kibito. I think a better explanation would be that Elder Kaioshin's position was transferred over to a successor. After all, we don't hear about countless generations of Kaioshins still being alive, do we? There's only four regular Kaioshins intended to represent the four cardinal points and a single Dai Kaioshin. Oh, but then you have the conundrum over whether South and Dai Kaioshin inside Buu still technically have their capacity to keep Beerus alive.
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Either its ANOTHER plot hole in super, no shock there or its that he just needs 1 supreme kai alive to live. There was never 0 supreme kais in Z. When buu attacked elder kai was in the sword. When elder kai died, supreme kai was alive.
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Re: A possible plothole? SPOILERS
Isn't Vegeta promised Whis to take the role of the god of destruction if he trains him, or something like?
So, is god of destruction a title, or a "birth privilege"? If Vegeta (or someone else) would take the role from Beerus, would his life be linked with the Kaioshins?
So, is god of destruction a title, or a "birth privilege"? If Vegeta (or someone else) would take the role from Beerus, would his life be linked with the Kaioshins?