Do you truly think DBZ is the best anime ever?

[RedRibbonSoldier#42]

I think Prince of Tennis is the best anime ever.

I think Dinosaur King is the best anime ever.

Which is it?

[Cipher]

Which is it?

Beyblade.

[nite_jay]

I don't even think DBZ is the best out of the Dragonball series, let alone all of Japanimation.

[Lord Beerus]

Hell no. It's not even the best shonen anime of its era. I mean, I enjoy the shit of out large chunks of DBZ, but I've never once thought of it as anywhere never the cream of the crop in terms of anime.

[FortuneSSJ]

Well in ways yeah. I definitely think it's the most entertaining anime ever. It's got mass appeal, the characters are all good, the story is interesting without being overly complex so it can be enjoyed by any age, a lot of action, a lot of comedy, colourful show, good music etc.

It doesn't have any vital downsides to it, it doesn't get bogged down by flashbacks, there are no sob stories, it's not too Japanese, there's no filler battles where you'll have the supporting characters fight like a dozen henchmen before Goku fights the main villain because they just jump straight to it.

So I can see why a lot of people would think it was the greatest.

I think this sums up my thoughts very well.

For what it's worth Dragon Ball Z is #344 on myanimelist.net

MAL is not a bible. It's just another site and their review system is flawed.

Forget haters giving 1 to mainstream stuff, their system should not allow people to review something before x episodes aired.
A lot of people started trashing DB super, when the polemic episode 5 came out and gave it bad reputation, while they didn't even know we would get new stuff.
Those reviews don't say anything worh reading. It's just hate that doesn't help anyone.

How do you make a good review of show with 55+ episodes and no end on sight, after episode 5?! You don't.

And for what it's worth, if MAL was a thing when Dragon Ball debut it would rank much higher. Different times, different circumstances.
Those rankings aren't to be taken literally.

[kinisking]

Well in ways yeah. I definitely think it's the most entertaining anime ever. It's got mass appeal, the characters are all good, the story is interesting without being overly complex so it can be enjoyed by any age, a lot of action, a lot of comedy, colourful show, good music etc.

It doesn't have any vital downsides to it, it doesn't get bogged down by flashbacks, there are no sob stories, it's not too Japanese, there's no filler battles where you'll have the supporting characters fight like a dozen henchmen before Goku fights the main villain because they just jump straight to it.

So I can see why a lot of people would think it was the greatest.

I think this sums up my thoughts very well.

For what it's worth Dragon Ball Z is #344 on myanimelist.net

MAL is not a bible. It's just another site and their review system is flawed.

Forget haters giving 1 to mainstream stuff, their system should not allow people to review something before x episodes aired.
A lot of people started trashing DB super, when the polemic episode 5 came out and gave it bad reputation, while they didn't even know we would get new stuff.
Those reviews don't say anything worh reading. It's just hate that doesn't help anyone.

How do you make a good review of show with 55+ episodes and no end on sight, after episode 5?! You don't.

And for what it's worth, if MAL was a thing when Dragon Ball debut it would rank much higher. Different times, different circumstances.
Those rankings aren't to be taken literally.

I don't know where he got that number? It's popping up as #207 for me.

[Hellspawn28]

I go on MAL and MAL is pretty much the anime and manga of IMDB. Maybe nowhere as terrible but their rating system works very similar. People can rate a 1/10 or 10/10 without seeing the show or movie. Not to mention the site is filled with young people and a lot of them refuse to watch old shows unless it's from 2005 - current. One person said that Elfen Lied was too old for them .

[LightBing]

MAL is not a bible. It's just another site and their review system is flawed.

Forget haters giving 1 to mainstream stuff, their system should not allow people to review something before x episodes aired.
A lot of people started trashing DB super, when the polemic episode 5 came out and gave it bad reputation, while they didn't even know we would get new stuff.
Those reviews don't say anything worh reading. It's just hate that doesn't help anyone.

How do you make a good review of show with 55+ episodes and no end on sight, after episode 5?! You don't.

And for what it's worth, if MAL was a thing when Dragon Ball debut it would rank much higher. Different times, different circumstances.
Those rankings aren't to be taken literally.

That's why I said for what it's worth. Hellspawn28 describes it pretty well above. Still, it's a reasonable source for comparing pre-2000 animes. Since those animes don't suffer from the flow of love and hate that most anime instigate just by being released.

I don't know where he got that number? It's popping up as #207 for me.

That's for Dragon Ball. I didn't even noticed.

[Akira]

That's like asking "What is the best movie ever?" or "What is the best video game ever?" Or even for a particular era. Ask 100 people, and you'll probably average around 75 different answers (Some of them will probably say the same things). Is Dragonball or Z specifically the best ever? No, you could argue it on half a dozen critical measurements, and it would probably come up short to something else on almost every count. It is far from the best animated show I've ever seen, so no I don't think it is the best ever, not by a long shot. Is it my favorite? Well, yes, it is, but that doesn't make it the best. There really isn't anything more than that to be said, is there?

[Dbzfan94]

"Best" is purely opinion so that's not really a definitive yes or no.

But is DB/Z the most enjoyable for me personally? Hell yeah it is

[Cipher]

That's like asking "What is the best movie ever?"

You mean you can't make an objective statement about a superlative entry in what is not only not a distinct genre, but simply a regional identifier within a broad medium?

Madness. The best anime is this 1933 Toho short animated film about youkai: https://youtu.be/WyGvGMa2RFg

[Dbzfan94]

I think Dinosaur King is the best anime ever.

Is Fox News an anime? That's the best anime ever

[One Piece Nation]

No not even close I have said this on youtube many times before Dragon ball was great in its time but now I want more than just half a chapter of backstory I want 2 or 3 chapters detailing the backstory. I want to cry over characters when they die I did not even tear up at future bulma's death and its not because i don't care about her. In Naruto when I did not give a crap about [spoiler]asuma when he died[/spoiler] i nearly cried because of how sad his death was. Dragon Ball Has made me cry one time that was when Goku die in the cell games when i saw it at like 10 years old on the other hand One Piece made me cry over a ship. Dragon Ball can be deeb at times but the story is simple and it does make me care about the characters the way One Piece or Naruto does. I don't care if goku becomes the strongest like he wants to But I do care about Naruto being Hokage or Luffy being Pirate King I care about the goals and dreams of the characters. I just dont care as much with dragon ball because so much time is spent on Goku and Goku will never change.

sorry for the bad grammar

[Nejishiki]

I'd argue Dragon Ball's lack of flashbacks works in its favor. It can kill the pacing when it's overdone. Personally, I prefer characters to recall their stories in the past tense instead of dedicating visual time towards those accounts. The weight of their stories should be able to stand on their own, yet I will admit it's been executed well before in a few of my favorite films. Those films utilized it in limited doses, however.

To answer the thread, I don't think I can make a judgment like that. Dragon Ball does well in what it tries to accomplish and it entertains me all the same. The same could be said for mostly any media I consume. It's just a matter of what you're looking for at any given moment.

[ABED]

I'd argue Dragon Ball's lack of flashbacks works in its favor. It can kill the pacing when it's overdone. Personally, I prefer characters to recall their stories in the past tense instead of dedicating visual time towards those accounts. The weight of their stories should be able to stand on their own, yet I will admit it's been executed well before in a few of my favorite films. Those films utilized it in limited doses, however.

To answer the thread, I don't think I can make a judgment like that. Dragon Ball does well in what it tries to accomplish and it entertains me all the same. The same could be said for mostly any media I consume. It's just a matter of what you're looking for at any given moment.

Both methods have their plus and minuses. For instance, if you just tell it in dialog, it can come off simply as boring exposition where it's just some dude talking.

[Nejishiki]

Right, it's always about the execution. Anything can be done well so long as the writing structure allows for it. In Dragon Ball's case, I just can't think of many situations where it could be justified. Just to throw an example out there, do we need a flashback of Goku with his Grandpa Gohan? We're presented with enough information to gather that they were very close before his passing, long before we meet the character proper. With Dragon Ball, it works well with how it just pushes the narrative forward, allowing necessary expository breaks when necessary at the right pace, before heading off once more.

[ABED]

It's not the information that makes it work. The DB that Goku always sees as his grandpa's memento in a weird way acts in a similar way for the audience. I think the flashback to King Vegeta's doomed coup attempt worked quite well.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

As far as entertainment goes DB is great but I find YYH, Naruto, OPM more entertaining.

I think DB can compete for the title of the"most popular anime". That would be more appropriate. In Japan, One Piece outclasses it but worldwide besides Pokemon maybe DB is the most popular.

- Travis

[sangofe]

I love dbz, but it's far from the best anime on any aspect, being the entertainment aspect, or the technical aspects.

[MCDaveG]

My most favorite, yes, as I do not enjoy anime much fanatically.
I was a huge kung-fu and wuxia movie genre fan to begin with, so I do enjoy fighting series.
I do enjoy Gundam, as I love robots and they have cool design (not a fan of Super Robot genre)
And I like things like Samurai Champloo and Cowboy Bebop and old anime like Space Battleship Yamato.

I don't think it is the best anime, and frankly, I don't like anime culture, the modern one in general,
but Dragon Ball was probably the best big hit franchise anime I saw.
One Piece is kinda boring with unfunny jokes. Naruto was kinda good-ish, but got boring with one huge villain plotline being stretched over whole series.
The other fighting shows I liked a lot, seconds to Dragon Ball were Saint Seiya and Yu Yu Hakusho.
Nowadays, I did like Jojo's Bizzare Adventure, but only until the third arc with Stands, where I left after third episode, as I didn't liked that concept.

In my opinion, Dragon Ball is and will be the best Shonen anime... except for Dragon Ball Super, ha.