How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
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How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
You know how when fighters, whether it be MMA, Boxing, or any fighting sport, are ready to fight, they show their wins and losses.
Example: Mike Tyson 50 - 6 (50 wins to 6 losses).
What would Goku's record be?
First thing needed to solve this is a list of every one of his manga fights, along with the result. To make things simpler, we'll only include shown fights, and fights against opponents who posed a threat or were assumed to pose a threat. So his preliminary fights for the Tenkaichi Budokai don't count, except the one against King Chappa in the third tournament . And beating random Red Ribbon Army soldiers don't count.
The Fights- Dragon Ball:
- Goku vs. Yamcha: LOSS
- Goku vs. Giran: WIN
- Goku vs. Nam: WIN
- Goku vs. Jackie Chun: LOSS
- Goku vs. Colonel Silver: WIN
- Goku vs. Major Metallitron: WIN
- Goku vs. Murasaki: WIN
- Goku vs. Buyon: WIN
- Goku vs. General Blue: LOSS, saved by rat.
- Goku vs. General Blue II: LOSS, saved by Arale.
- Goku vs. Tao: LOSS
- Goku vs. Tao II: WIN
- Goku vs. King Chappa: WIN
- Goku vs. Pamput: WIN
- Goku vs. Krillin: WIN
- Goku vs. Tenshinhan: LOSS
- Goku vs. Tambourine: LOSS
- Goku vs. Tambourine II: WIN
- Goku vs. King Piccolo: LOSS
-Goku vs. King Piccolo II: WIN
- Goku vs. King Chappa II: WIN
- Goku vs. Chi Chi: WIN
- Goku vs. Tenshinhan II: WIN
- Goku vs. Piccolo Jr.: WIN
Goku has a 16 - 8 record in Dragon Ball.
The Fights - Dragon Ball Z:
Goku vs. Raditz: LOSS
Goku and Piccolo Jr. vs. Raditz: LOSS, needed Piccolo.
Goku vs. Nappa: WIN
Goku vs. Vegeta: LOSS. Vegeta would have won if Krillin and Gohan didn't come back.
Goku vs. Recoome: WIN
Goku vs. Jeice and Burter: WIN
Goku vs. Captain Ginyu: LOSS, lost his body.
Goku vs. Frieza: WIN, but used steroids.
Goku vs. Android 19: LOSS, was sick with diverticulitis (waits for someone to get the reference)
Goku vs. Cell: LOSS
Goku vs. Cell Junior: LOSS
Goku vs. Yakon: WIN
Goku vs. Fat Buu: TIE. Said he could have won, but withdrew from the match.
Goku vs. Buttenks: LOSS. Would have lost without fusing.
Goku vs. Kid Buu: LOSS. Yes, he would have lost without the Genki Dama.
That puts his DBZ record at 3 - 9 - 2 and his overall record at 19 - 17 - 2.
That's worse than many professional fighters, now that I think about it. Any major fights I missed out on?
Example: Mike Tyson 50 - 6 (50 wins to 6 losses).
What would Goku's record be?
First thing needed to solve this is a list of every one of his manga fights, along with the result. To make things simpler, we'll only include shown fights, and fights against opponents who posed a threat or were assumed to pose a threat. So his preliminary fights for the Tenkaichi Budokai don't count, except the one against King Chappa in the third tournament . And beating random Red Ribbon Army soldiers don't count.
The Fights- Dragon Ball:
- Goku vs. Yamcha: LOSS
- Goku vs. Giran: WIN
- Goku vs. Nam: WIN
- Goku vs. Jackie Chun: LOSS
- Goku vs. Colonel Silver: WIN
- Goku vs. Major Metallitron: WIN
- Goku vs. Murasaki: WIN
- Goku vs. Buyon: WIN
- Goku vs. General Blue: LOSS, saved by rat.
- Goku vs. General Blue II: LOSS, saved by Arale.
- Goku vs. Tao: LOSS
- Goku vs. Tao II: WIN
- Goku vs. King Chappa: WIN
- Goku vs. Pamput: WIN
- Goku vs. Krillin: WIN
- Goku vs. Tenshinhan: LOSS
- Goku vs. Tambourine: LOSS
- Goku vs. Tambourine II: WIN
- Goku vs. King Piccolo: LOSS
-Goku vs. King Piccolo II: WIN
- Goku vs. King Chappa II: WIN
- Goku vs. Chi Chi: WIN
- Goku vs. Tenshinhan II: WIN
- Goku vs. Piccolo Jr.: WIN
Goku has a 16 - 8 record in Dragon Ball.
The Fights - Dragon Ball Z:
Goku vs. Raditz: LOSS
Goku and Piccolo Jr. vs. Raditz: LOSS, needed Piccolo.
Goku vs. Nappa: WIN
Goku vs. Vegeta: LOSS. Vegeta would have won if Krillin and Gohan didn't come back.
Goku vs. Recoome: WIN
Goku vs. Jeice and Burter: WIN
Goku vs. Captain Ginyu: LOSS, lost his body.
Goku vs. Frieza: WIN, but used steroids.
Goku vs. Android 19: LOSS, was sick with diverticulitis (waits for someone to get the reference)
Goku vs. Cell: LOSS
Goku vs. Cell Junior: LOSS
Goku vs. Yakon: WIN
Goku vs. Fat Buu: TIE. Said he could have won, but withdrew from the match.
Goku vs. Buttenks: LOSS. Would have lost without fusing.
Goku vs. Kid Buu: LOSS. Yes, he would have lost without the Genki Dama.
That puts his DBZ record at 3 - 9 - 2 and his overall record at 19 - 17 - 2.
That's worse than many professional fighters, now that I think about it. Any major fights I missed out on?
Last edited by Hero on Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
In regards to Super:
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
I'm not sure you can give him a win vs Radditz and a loss vs Vegeta. He would have lost both without the other people involved and both ended with him not winning but getting his way. I'm not sure he beat Radditz an more than he beat Vegeta honestly.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
True, I'm giving him another loss.GodKaio-Ken wrote:I'm not sure you can give him a win vs Radditz and a loss vs Vegeta. He would have lost both without the other people involved and both ended with him not winning but getting his way. I'm not sure he beat Radditz an more than he beat Vegeta honestly.
Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
He didn't lose against Golden Freeza... He had clearly won without outside interference. Sorbet helped.How is that Freeza's win at all? If he lost that, then a lot of his losses need to be turned to wins because the Z-fighters helped.Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
But the only time he had any big help was against Raditz and Vegeta, both ending with him disabled from the fight. Freeza kept standing after Sorbet helped him, got his ass kicked by Vegeta, but ultimately won that too. Goku's team whenever he wins, ends with him incapacitated and as good as dead if help isn't around. Freeza on the other, like I said above, would have still beaten everybody by himself and pretty much did.kinisking wrote:He didn't lose against Golden Freeza... He had clearly won without outside interference. Sorbet helped.How is that Freeza's win at all? If he lost that, then a lot of his losses need to be turned to wins because the Z-fighters helped.Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
You're forgetting his fight with Majin Vegeta, which he lost. It was a cheap shot by Vegeta, but he still lost.
Honestly, Vegeta. Why are you desperately competing with a guy you beat personally on two occasions?
Honestly, Vegeta. Why are you desperately competing with a guy you beat personally on two occasions?
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
Goku fought Yamcha twice: he lost the first time because he was hungry and in the next morning he fought Yamcha again and won.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
Yeah be beat Yamcha when they fought the second time and Goku wasn't handicapped.
On top of that he also beat...
Krillin
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The Mummy
Devil Man
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On top of that he also beat...
Krillin
Assistant Black
The Mummy
Devil Man
Grandpa Gohan
Drum
Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
While his record may not be the best there is a big difference between him and real life Profesional fighters.Hero wrote:
That puts his DBZ record at 3 - 9 - 2 and his overall record at 19 - 17 - 2.
That's worse than many professional fighters, now that I think about it. Any major fights I missed out on?
As the story progresses Goku clearly becomes much stronger than many of his opponents to the point where it's obvious to both so a rematch to gauge his improvement aren't really necessary.
In real life people don't go SS and instantly multiply their power by 50x.
So if Jon Jones for example were to lose to someone we'd need a rematch to figure out whether it was a fluke or not.
That isn't really necessary with say Raditz for example. Yeah Goku lost to him but who cares? He's obvious canon fodder now.
Interesting thread nonetheless.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
Wow damn, i'm starting to feel kinda bad for Goku in super , but couldn't Goku vs Black be tie?Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
Goku won almost all of his fights in GT expect for General Rildo (Probably would have won if Pan didn't step in) and Bebi Vegeta twice.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
A fair few of them were "Z victories" where he only wins because someone else jumps in to help him. Baby, Super 17 and Omega all would've killed him if it wasn't for other people helping him out.Hellspawn28 wrote:Goku won almost all of his fights in GT expect for General Rildo (Probably would have won if Pan didn't step in) and Bebi Vegeta twice.
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True, but he still won by the end of the day though.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
I think the fight being undecided is kinda the same thing as a tie.dbs fanboy wrote:Wow damn, i'm starting to feel kinda bad for Goku in super , but couldn't Goku vs Black be tie?Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
Nah, a tie is more objective, i.e. reaching a time limit, double knockout, both competitors admit defeat, etc. Black got sucked back to Future Trunks' timeline before an objective conclusion could be reached.Lord Beerus wrote:I think the fight being undecided is kinda the same thing as a tie.dbs fanboy wrote:Wow damn, i'm starting to feel kinda bad for Goku in super , but couldn't Goku vs Black be tie?Doctor. wrote:In regards to Super:
Goku vs Beerus - Loss
Goku vs Beerus again - Loss
Goku vs Golden Freeza - Loss
Goku vs Botamo - Win
Goku vs Frost - Loss
Goku vs Hit - Loss
Goku vs Copy-Vegeta - Tie
Goku vs Black - Undecided
Goku vs Zamasu - Win
Goku vs Black again - Currently losing
2 - 5 - 1
22 - 21 - 3
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
Goku wasn't the only one getting powered up from outside sources the villians were too whether it was db, dbz or dbgt I can't recall an major villian that didn't use outside source except Frieza, Broly and Janemba maybe Hildegarn. The rest are cheats.
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Re: How Many Fights Has Goku Won and Lost?
I agree that the first one is a loss, but I find fault with the reasoning. Along this train of thought, Goku "lost" as soon as the fight started since he and Piccolo agreed to fight together from the start. I'd more say he lost because he died at the end of it, though I suppose even then he stayed alive longer than Raditz did after getting hit.Hero wrote: Goku and Piccolo Jr. vs. Raditz: LOSS, needed Piccolo.
Goku vs. Kid Buu: LOSS. Yes, he would have lost without the Genki Dama.
The second one is a bit harder. I understand that there was a lot of behind-the-scenes help for it, but I don't think I can justify it with this other thought-experiment. If Goku had beaten Freeza with the Genki Dama on Namek would that also have been considered a loss? He was clearly outmatched and on his way to losing before using it.
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I think the Kid Boo one is more objective. Goku literally tagged out and Vegeta and Mr. Boo fought in his place, and then when it was Goku's turn to come back and fight, SS3 backfired on him and he almost passed out. Ultimately he "won" with a cheap-shot. Whilst with Freeza, it was always Freeza vs Goku with one sneak-attack from Piccolo, plus Freeza was always aware of the Genkidama, Boo only became aware at the end.Snow_Lilies wrote:The second one is a bit harder. I understand that there was a lot of behind-the-scenes help for it, but I don't think I can justify it with this other thought-experiment. If Goku had beaten Freeza with the Genki Dama on Namek would that also have been considered a loss? He was clearly outmatched and on his way to losing before using it.