"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Khin]

He treated Trunks as annoyance. He could have killed him at any time, and even mused as much when Trunks tried to fight him for killing Mai, saying you have no chance. And Super Saiyan 2 Trunks didn't even get a hit in when he first met Black.

When Trunks said Black was stronger in the future, it's because Black was only matching Super Saiyan 2 Goku when he's at least as strong as Super Saiyan 3 Goku.

As I said before, this should be continued in the Power Level Thread, since we're clearly becoming off-topic here. Thank you!

[Bullza]

So that'd make this saga at least 17 episodes so far. This is good, this is just what the show needed. Hopefully it can stretch it out to over 20 episodes.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm glad the Zeno killing Black title was fake. Goku does not seem like someone who will summon someone to defeat a person. Goku likes to defeat people with his own power and would be lazy to summon Zeno just to defeat a threat.

[Khin]

Still, I'm not going to get my guard down or else I'd end up being extremely disappointed, they could just easily have Goku accidentally pressing the button or something like that. Toriyama mentioned Zen'ou being involved in the Black and Zamasu stuff, so he will probably do something. I saw speculations that Zen'ou might erase all alternate timelines at the end of the arc, not sure how what to feel about that though.

[Hellspawn28]

I think Zeno may step in and find away to restore everything. It's possible that he is unaware on what is going on in Trunks timeline or Black found away to have Zeno from getting in the way.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

So that'd make this saga at least 17 episodes so far. This is good, this is just what the show needed. Hopefully it can stretch it out to over 20 episodes.

24 with all the post slice of life /impact from the arc and stuff, is definitely a possibility now.

[namekiansaiyan]

What the titles actually mean:

Episode 62: Trunks gets beat up by Black for the third time in this arc and starts being emotional. Vegeta steps in all arrogant.

Episode 63: Vegeta thinks Black got lucky last time, consequently gets beat up again by Black and has one of his sulks. Goku gets prepared to fight Black for the third time and thinks he knows how to beat him.

This arc is just a bunch of constant rematch fights and is the definition of boring. This is what happens when you have such few characters on each side.

The next arc needs to hurry up now. I am also probably the only person here who likes the tournament arc more at this stage.

The mystery of the construction of Black and the unfolding of Zamasu's fall makes this a good Arc. It's also not easy to guess ever, and has us always double taking.

You're right on the lack of characters, though. Would be awesome to include in Hit or maybe even Cabba. It benefits from lack of the weak ones like Piccolo, though.

Hit and weaker characters yes, Cabba, no.
And guess what?
Trunks is also very weak in this situation so your last comment makes you look like an idiot.

You are ultimately just easily satisfied. My point about a bunch of rematches seems true though.

In a few weeks you and others will most likely be complaining about the mystery and outcome. I am looking forward more to the story in Xenoverse 2 than this arc.

For the next arc I want a traditional bad guy with henchmen who is just evil as I feel Super needs that now.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

What the titles actually mean:

Episode 62: Trunks gets beat up by Black for the third time in this arc and starts being emotional. Vegeta steps in all arrogant.

Episode 63: Vegeta thinks Black got lucky last time, consequently gets beat up again by Black and has one of his sulks. Goku gets prepared to fight Black for the third time and thinks he knows how to beat him.

This arc is just a bunch of constant rematch fights and is the definition of boring. This is what happens when you have such few characters on each side.

The next arc needs to hurry up now. I am also probably the only person here who likes the tournament arc more at this stage.

The mystery of the construction of Black and the unfolding of Zamasu's fall makes this a good Arc. It's also not easy to guess ever, and has us always double taking.

You're right on the lack of characters, though. Would be awesome to include in Hit or maybe even Cabba. It benefits from lack of the weak ones like Piccolo, though.

Hit and weaker characters yes, Cabba, no.
And guess what?
Trunks is also very weak in this situation so your last comment makes you look like an idiot.

You are ultimately just easily satisfied. My point about a bunch of rematches seems true though.

In a few weeks you and others will most likely be complaining about the mystery and outcome. I am looking forward more to the story in Xenoverse 2 than this arc.

For the next arc I want a traditional bad guy with henchmen who is just evil as I feel Super needs that now.

That was completely uncalled for. There are better ways to phrase than that one.

[Sodhi]

Since the blu ray till #72 were announced, I though that this arc itself will go up to #72. Its looking more and more like that might be the case.

[Swifticuffs]

The mystery of the construction of Black and the unfolding of Zamasu's fall makes this a good Arc. It's also not easy to guess ever, and has us always double taking.

You're right on the lack of characters, though. Would be awesome to include in Hit or maybe even Cabba. It benefits from lack of the weak ones like Piccolo, though.

Hit and weaker characters yes, Cabba, no.
And guess what?
Trunks is also very weak in this situation so your last comment makes you look like an idiot.

You are ultimately just easily satisfied. My point about a bunch of rematches seems true though.

In a few weeks you and others will most likely be complaining about the mystery and outcome. I am looking forward more to the story in Xenoverse 2 than this arc.

For the next arc I want a traditional bad guy with henchmen who is just evil as I feel Super needs that now.

That was completely uncalled for. There are better ways to phrase than that one.

This guy rampages the forums angry all the time. Pay him no mind. Trunks is not weak compared to the others. Cabba is, but he'd be a fresh, and new character. What's great is NEW characters. That's what I was suggesting we'd need.

But it's all too easy with you. Say one negative thing about Piccolo and it's as if someone set fire to your establishment. Really is a joke, at this point.

Call me easily satisfied or whatever, I'm just a happy guy enjoying and carrying on.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Since the blu ray till #72 were announced, I though that this arc itself will go up to #72. Its looking more and more like that might be the case.

With a maybe a mini arc and SoL episodes after I can certainly see that. I can't see the next big arc starting until Jan and I think that would leave us perfectly!

[Swifticuffs]

Since the blu ray till #72 were announced, I though that this arc itself will go up to #72. Its looking more and more like that might be the case.

With a maybe a mini arc and SoL episodes after I can certainly see that. I can't see the next big arc starting until Jan and I think that would leave us perfectly!

There's no clarification on how long the series may last, correct? It's just a TBD thing and they're rolling with it?

[Anime Kitten]

There's no clarification on how long the series may last, correct? It's just a TBD thing and they're rolling with it?

Yep, I'm pretty sure they've never said it's going to end at 72 episodes. Just that it will be at least that long.

I would also like to see Hit and Cabba. Especially if the latter got a certain transformation...

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Since the blu ray till #72 were announced, I though that this arc itself will go up to #72. Its looking more and more like that might be the case.

With a maybe a mini arc and SoL episodes after I can certainly see that. I can't see the next big arc starting until Jan and I think that would leave us perfectly!

There's no clarification on how long the series may last, correct? It's just a TBD thing and they're rolling with it?

Correct. It could go on for 5 years, 15 years, 25 years who knows!

[Swifticuffs]

There's no clarification on how long the series may last, correct? It's just a TBD thing and they're rolling with it?

Yep, I'm pretty sure they've never said it's going to end at 72 episodes. Just that it will be at least that long.

I would also like to see Hit and Cabba. Especially if the latter got a certain transformation...

It'd probably be more fun to see a slew of Saiyans alla Uni6. Cabba getting blue or Trunks getting blue is just pandering. Goku and Vegeta are prodigies who train with Gods. I don't see how the other two can get it without some of the same training. Then again, manga Trunks did train with Kaioshin... but Whis is so far and away stronger.

Speaking of Whis, tangent here, but it's pretty much implied Whis is a god of sorts, yeah?

[Anime Kitten]

Speaking of Whis, tangent here, but it's pretty much implied Whis is a god of sorts, yeah?

Well, considering his ability to train the God of Destruction, and the Grand Priest of the same Race being one of the top 5 fighters in the Omniverse...

[Swifticuffs]

Speaking of Whis, tangent here, but it's pretty much implied Whis is a god of sorts, yeah?

Well, considering his ability to train the God of Destruction, and the Grand Priest of the same Race being one of the top 5 fighters in the Omniverse...

It's a presumption that Whis and the "Grand Priest" are of the same race, right? I mean it seems pretty clear cut visually, but you know how DB can be. See: Gokuu Black. First thought is "WOAH ANOTHER SAIYAN/ANOTHER GOKU" but nope. Devils advocate, ya know?

[Anime Kitten]

It's a presumption that Whis and the "Grand Priest" are of the same race, right? I mean it seems pretty clear cut visually, but you know how DB can be. See: Gokuu Black. First thought is "WOAH ANOTHER SAIYAN/ANOTHER GOKU" but nope. Devils advocate, ya know?

Yeah, I guess it's only a presumption. I wonder if in the (also presumed) upcoming tournament arc, we'll find out who the Top 2-4 are, since Zen'ou is obviously #1.

[Swifticuffs]

It's a presumption that Whis and the "Grand Priest" are of the same race, right? I mean it seems pretty clear cut visually, but you know how DB can be. See: Gokuu Black. First thought is "WOAH ANOTHER SAIYAN/ANOTHER GOKU" but nope. Devils advocate, ya know?

Yeah, I guess it's only a presumption. I wonder if in the (also presumed) upcoming tournament arc, we'll find out who the Top 2-4 are, since Zen'ou is obviously #1.

I'm guessing his attendants, honestly, because why guard him if you can't beat everyone else or at least team up to beat everyone else.

[Alruneia]

It's only sensible that the Grand Attendant is the same race as Whis and Vados, who are also attendants.
("Priest" is a stupid translation if you ask me, even if it is accurate, since "Attendant" also works.)

I still think that the Top 5 Strongest in the Multiverse list goes
1. Zen'ou
2. Zen'ou's guard
3. Zen'ou's other guard
4. The Grand Attendant
5. An unknown person