"Dragon Ball Super" Animation Staff Discussion

[Chuquita]

So the storyboarders can add their own dialogue if they want?! That's interesting. That makes them part editors in a way.

[dbgtFO]

So the storyboarders can add their own dialogue if they want?! That's interesting. That makes them part editors in a way.

Superb timing. You posted that the second after I left this thread, lol.
And yeah, neat new info.

[ekrolo2]

That explains a great many things.

[JulieYBM]

So the storyboarders can add their own dialogue if they want?! That's interesting. That makes them part editors in a way.

We saw it with Fukkatsu no F. Read Toriyama's script then notice how much extra dialogue there is in the film. Nozawa Masako even commented in an interview for Kami to Kami that they would leave in her ad-libs on occasion. The script isn't set in stone, many, many things occur to create a finished product long after the script.

Japanese cartoons aren't made by writers. Writers are just freelancers brought on to mold the series director, series composer's and producer's ideas into script form. On a US series, like say, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the executive producer is in charge of the series, but quite often they are themselves writers. Michael Piller and Ira Steven Behr were writers first and foremost and directors where just hired-guns brought in to man the camera in as generic a manner as possible. The executive producer/show runner would then oversee post-production without the director involved. In Japanese animation this is not the case. The person in charge of a series is more often than not a trainer director or animator. Hatano Morio is a storyboard artist and director, for example. The series director of Re: Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu, Watanabe Masaharu (Sessha Gorou) is an popular animator who has recently turned to directing. They set the tone and style of a series and oversee the broader aspects of each episode, including approving scripts and storyboards.

[Lord Beerus]

So the storyboarders can add their own dialogue if they want?! That's interesting. That makes them part editors in a way.

We saw it with Fukkatsu no F. Read Toriyama's script then notice how much extra dialogue there is in the film. Nozawa Masako even commented in an interview for Kami to Kami that they would leave in her ad-libs on occasion. The script isn't set in stone, many, many things occur to create a finished product long after the script.

Japanese cartoons aren't made by writers. Writers are just freelancers brought on to mold the series director, series composer's and producer's ideas into script form. On a US series, like say, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, the executive producer is in charge of the series, but quite often they are themselves writers. Michael Piller and Ira Steven Behr were writers first and foremost and directors where just hired-guns brought in to man the camera in as generic a manner as possible. The executive producer/show runner would then oversee post-production without the director involved. In Japanese animation this is not the case. The person in charge of a series is more often than not a trainer director or animator. Hatano Morio is a storyboard artist and director, for example. The series director of Re: Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu, Watanabe Masaharu (Sessha Gorou) is an popular animator who has recently turned to directing. They set the tone and style of a series and oversee the broader aspects of each episode, including approving scripts and storyboards.

Wow. I never knew that the production crew for animes had that much freedom to throw in what they wanted. Makes you wonder how much of Super improvised and how much titbits are thrown in at the last minute. It would certainly explain why stuff like the Namekian Book Of Legends popped up in one episode and was never mentioned again.

[coola]

In Konosubs Episode 2 commentary, Rie Takahashi said, she was asked to ad-lib during scene with Megumi eyepatch removal, and in one of episodes of Aikatsu Stars anime, ability to ad-lib determined, if you get role, so i guess improvising is pretty popular

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Where is Hatano Mario does anybody know? Did he leave as well like Chioka Kimitoshi? He hasn't directed since ep 14 I wonder what happened.

- Travis

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I still want King Ryû to return though.

Got two upcoming episodes that are partially if not fully dedicated to Trunks and Vegeta. He'll probably do one if not both of those.

That explains a great many things.

Indeed it does. Indeed it does. As Lord Beerus said stuff like Namakien Book of legends make sense now.

[JulieYBM]

Where is Hatano Mario does anybody know? Did he leave as well like Chioka Kimitoshi? He hasn't directed since ep 14 I wonder what happened.

- Travis

Hatano has been credited as the series director since Episode #33 and I imagine with the poor production schedule for the series he has been busy fulfilling that role and has had no time to personally act as a storyboard artist or episode director himself.

[ekrolo2]

Man, I was never a guy who thought "the anime should be adapting Toyotaro's manga!" but after what Jacob just revealed, that's totally what should've happened

[JulieYBM]

Man, I was never a guy who thought "the anime should be adapting Toyotaro's manga!" but after what Jacob just revealed, that's totally what should've happened

The problem is that a certain executive mishandled the pre-production of Dragon Ball Super by providing no time for the series to begin production during an era where the studio and industry as a whole has a lot of different projects in the work. Chioka was given no time to plan his vision and Hatano has inherited a fractured series.

[Sodhi]

Staff for #62-65 according to the listings is as follows

#62
Script: Fukushima Yukinori
Episode Director/Storyboard: Sato Masanori
Animation Supervisor/s: Kitano Yukihiro, Nashizawa Takashi

#63
Script: Yoshitaka Toshio
Episode director/Storyboard: Karasawa Kazuya
Animation Supervisor/s: Yashima Yoshitaka, Manabe Shuuichiro

#64
Script: King Ryu
Episode Director: Hatano Kohei
Storyboarder: ??
Animation Supervisor/s: Yoshitaka yashima(again wtf?),Karasawa Yuichi

#65
Script: Tomioka Atsuhiro
Episode Director/Storyboarder: Nakamura Ryota
Animation Supervisor/s: Ishikawa Osamu, Tate Naoki

Notes: #62 would be Takashi's first supervisor role in dragon ball. He has been working on super as a key animator, but now seems to be promoted to be an AD.
They seem to be utilizing Yashima a lot. Half of both episodes, so that other half can be much more focused.
Wonder what happen to Toma.
Yet again no signs of Onishi Yoichi. He probably left.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Good to see King Ryuu back. I feel 63&64 will be extremely rushed episodes. Is the schedule worse again? #63 will be at least well directed cause Karasawa Kazuya has been consistently good.

- Travis

[Chuquita]

So happy to see King Ryû back! Surprised about the fusion, actually.

[ArchedThunder]

Cross post with animation catalogue
So not only are we getting Yashima teamed up with someone for the first time, we're getting it TWO weeks in a row?! I wonder if we'll see some nice action from him like in 46. The lack of Toma is weird, hopefully he shows up after 65, or maybe Yashima being listed twice is a typo.
I'm glad to see Manabe again, hopefully he's a regular now.
Also Tate and Ishikawa teamed up again for the episode following Zamasu and Black's fusion, nice!
I'm very interested to see Nashizawa try out the supervisor role, the last episode he worked on was ages ago.
Still no Onishi, guess he is gone.
If the action is still going after 65 it will be interesting to see who supervises the following episodes, they are kinda blowing their load on good supervisors.
If we get Gogeta/Vegetto I bet that episode is Yamamuro

[nite_jay]

I forgot about Yamamuro. Maybe a Yamamuro+Shida finale? As long as Yamamuro stays in his lane I'm more than fine with that.

[ArchedThunder]

I forgot about Yamamuro. Maybe a Yamamuro+Shida finale? As long as Yamamuro stays in his lane I'm more than fine with that.

If the last episode of the arc (or at least the last action episode) is 66 then it's totally going to be Yamamuro, but if the arc is going on for more than that I don't know who might be supervising episodes. Maybe Toma, the return of Onishi or even someone new to Super.
If 66 is the end of the arc, or at least the action, I bet 67 is Toma.

[nite_jay]

I forgot about Yamamuro. Maybe a Yamamuro+Shida finale? As long as Yamamuro stays in his lane I'm more than fine with that.

If the last episode of the arc (or at least the last action episode) is 66 then it's totally going to be Yamamuro, but if the arc is going on for more than that I don't know who might be supervising episodes. Maybe Toma, the return of Onishi or even someone new to Super.
If 66 is the end of the arc, or at least the action, I bet 67 is Toma.

I have a feeling Toma left. If he was here they definitely should have utilized him recently to prevent so many people to have to double up on these upcoming episodes.

[ArchedThunder]

I have a feeling Toma left. If he was here they definitely should have utilized him recently to prevent so many people to have to double up on these upcoming episodes.

It's too early to say. If the action ends on a Yamamuro supervised 66 then it would make sense for them to want to use all of these guys for the action and use Toma after the action is over. The only weird thing is Yashima working on two episodes back to back when Toma could have worked on one. However, Yashima usually works either alone or with one or two animators, so when you consider that he's paired up with two talented supervisors and will likely have anywhere from 7 to 20 animators working with him on each episode it doesn't seem all that weird. He'll be working on two episodes back to back, but his work load for both episodes combined will probably be similar to or smaller than his work load on one of his regular episodes.

Also we don't know if Shimanuki is the only Supervisor on 61, Toma could be working with him.

[Lord Beerus]

Yay! King Ryu is back. It's been a while! Can't wait to see what he bring to the table. It's usually great.