"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[PsionicWarrior]

I'm not feeling buddy wingman Vegeta at all as it doesn't feel authentic to his established character.

Yes, in the Buu arc the duo worked well because Vegeta hated it, he just couldn't bare Goku's sight, he even destroys the Potara... And it makes him awesome. But it looks like it's more his general attitude in Super, because in the facts he did go away from Goku to train at Whis's, is Goku that kept coming. Then they made it that them sparring together is good for their training, but when you think of it the real problem appears already in BoG when he is considered pure of heart. So from then on, it makes sense that Vegeta has gone softer, but I am much more annoyed by him being completely submissive in front of Beerus to the point he literally was ordered around like a little dog lol

[TheMikado]

I'm not feeling buddy wingman Vegeta at all as it doesn't feel authentic to his established character.

Yes, in the Buu arc the duo worked well because Vegeta hated it, he just couldn't bare Goku's sight, he even destroys the Potara... And it makes him awesome. But it looks like it's more his general attitude in Super, because in the facts he did go away from Goku to train at Whis's, is Goku that kept coming. Then they made it that them sparring together is good for their training, but when you think of it the real problem appears already in BoG when he is considered pure of heart. So from then on, it makes sense that Vegeta has gone softer, but I am much more annoyed by him being completely submissive in front of Beerus to the point he literally was ordered around like a little dog lol

Thank you God, I'm not the only one! I could not stand that at all.

[buutenks]

Trunks becomes super strong? Yes. Cool. I like it. Dunno why some of you are so butthurt already lol.

Also, i am curious how strong fused Zamasu will be.

That also means, November will proly be the conclusion of the arc. Perhaps towards the end of November, tho i wish it would run for a little while longer.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I'm not feeling buddy wingman Vegeta at all as it doesn't feel authentic to his established character.

Yes, in the Buu arc the duo worked well because Vegeta hated it, he just couldn't bare Goku's sight, he even destroys the Potara... And it makes him awesome. But it looks like it's more his general attitude in Super, because in the facts he did go away from Goku to train at Whis's, is Goku that kept coming. Then they made it that them sparring together is good for their training, but when you think of it the real problem appears already in BoG when he is considered pure of heart. So from then on, it makes sense that Vegeta has gone softer, but I am much more annoyed by him being completely submissive in front of Beerus to the point he literally was ordered around like a little dog lol

Righteous heart, not pure. It's not the same thing.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I will ask it again... if Vegeta ang Goku will fuse... what will happen if they use Mafuba? Will they both be killed?

And if one of both is killed in the future how do they want to revive them?

The mafuba doesn't necessarily kill the user, this was only the case for Mutaito and the Turtle Hermit. Kami was able to use it just fine. In fact, the reason he tried it against Piccolo at the 23'rd Budokai was so he wouldn't have to die.

[olympia]

Where did that come from? Is it legit?

Now that you mention it, I checked and didn't see it anywhere in the Fujitv website of Super (Where an image for next episode is usually shown as far as I know), instead an image of Black is the one that's shown.

Although I don't know if there are other sources where you can see images for future episodes, so perhaps someone can clarify whether if this is fake or not ?

I must have missed it. Did this ever get answered? Is that image even credible?

[Sodhi]

Those images have always been legit, never been wrong so far. You just have to play with the link to look at the pic form the next week's episode.

[Noah]

Yes, in the Buu arc the duo worked well because Vegeta hated it, he just couldn't bare Goku's sight, he even destroys the Potara... And it makes him awesome. But it looks like it's more his general attitude in Super, because in the facts he did go away from Goku to train at Whis's, is Goku that kept coming. Then they made it that them sparring together is good for their training, but when you think of it the real problem appears already in BoG when he is considered pure of heart. So from then on, it makes sense that Vegeta has gone softer, but I am much more annoyed by him being completely submissive in front of Beerus to the point he literally was ordered around like a little dog lol

Thank you God, I'm not the only one! I could not stand that at all.

Me too, kawaii Vegeta is one the worst things ever introduced in modern Dragon Ball

[Lord Beerus]

Yes, in the Buu arc the duo worked well because Vegeta hated it, he just couldn't bare Goku's sight, he even destroys the Potara... And it makes him awesome. But it looks like it's more his general attitude in Super, because in the facts he did go away from Goku to train at Whis's, is Goku that kept coming. Then they made it that them sparring together is good for their training, but when you think of it the real problem appears already in BoG when he is considered pure of heart. So from then on, it makes sense that Vegeta has gone softer, but I am much more annoyed by him being completely submissive in front of Beerus to the point he literally was ordered around like a little dog lol

Thank you God, I'm not the only one! I could not stand that at all.

Me too, kawaii Vegeta is one the worst things ever introduced in modern Dragon Ball

In what sense is Vegeta "kawaii"?

[Noah]

In what sense is Vegeta "kawaii"?

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[Lord Beerus]

In what sense is Vegeta "kawaii"?

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That's not "kawaii'. That's more gag related, than Vegeta actually being cute.

[Noah]

That's not "kawaii'. That's more gag related, than Vegeta actually being cute.

Well, it is cute for me, awkwardly cute, though

[TheMikado]

Let's not make this a Vegeta thread, but I will just say that having him both do the Vegeta dance while in the same arc doing the "My Bulma" bit above SSJ3 levels is fairly distasteful .

BS reason to have Vegeta embarrass himself
BS reason to have Vegeta super rage power

Both scenes felt incredibly forced for Vegeta.

[KaiserAcedia]

After I did read through the upcoming episode titles, I realised what the downfall of Black and Zamasu is. Their merging into one person, was their absolute mistake. If they stayed seperated, then the Mafuba couldn't be pulled off. The greatest thing about this arc is actually the length. 14 Episodes so far and more to come . I wrote that in certainity but actually I don't know for sure.

[Sodhi]

Fuji tv seems to have some more details on episode 62. Translations would be appreciated
http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball ... index.html

[Jinzoningen MULE]

After I did read through the upcoming episode titles, I realised what the downfall of Black and Zamasu is. Their merging into one person, was their absolute mistake. If they stayed seperated, then the Mafuba couldn't be pulled off. The greatest thing about this arc is actually the length. 14 Episodes so far and more to come . I wrote that in certainity but actually I don't know for sure.

I hope that's not the case, but it does seem to be the way things are going.

[Bullza]

I'll ask here because it'll lost in the other thread.

Someone explain all these Zamasu's to me.

Now...the Zamasu in this episode, the green one, that's Zamasu from Trunks' timeline yeah?

The Zamasu who used the Super Dragon Balls to become Goku...is that the present Zamasu who Goku fought as a Super Saiyan because they showed a flashback to that. However he was killed and I didn't see anything to explain that.

Is there a third Zamasu?

[Xeztin]

I'll ask here because it'll lost in the other thread.

Someone explain all these Zamasu's to me.

Now...the Zamasu in this episode, the green one, that's Zamasu from Trunks' timeline yeah?

The Zamasu who used the Super Dragon Balls to become Goku...is that the present Zamasu who Goku fought as a Super Saiyan because they showed a flashback to that. However he was killed and I didn't see anything to explain that.

Is there a third Zamasu?

If i got this right the Green Zamasu is "Future Zamasu" to us and Black is a Zamasu from another timeline that used the Super Dragon Balls to wish for the body switch, he then destroyed the Super balls, killed Goku and his family, used the time ring to meet up with Future Zamasu and the rest is history. We'll call Future Zamasu number 2 and Black number 3. Number 1 would be the one Goku fought with as SSJ2, even though Beerus killed him it did not effect number 2 because of the time ring.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'll ask here because it'll lost in the other thread.

Someone explain all these Zamasu's to me.

Now...the Zamasu in this episode, the green one, that's Zamasu from Trunks' timeline yeah?

The Zamasu who used the Super Dragon Balls to become Goku...is that the present Zamasu who Goku fought as a Super Saiyan because they showed a flashback to that. However he was killed and I didn't see anything to explain that.

Is there a third Zamasu?

I'll keep it simple:

Zamasu #1 was from our main timeline, he was killed by Beerus.

Zamasu #2 was from the Future, he is now immortal.

Zamasu #3 (a.k.a. Goku Black) comes from a timeline where Trunks never came to the past, but Goku still went to Universe 10 and fought Zamasu (for reasons that will probably never be explained). This is likely a result of the same hidden timeline effect that occurred during the Jinzoningen Arc.

[Xeztin]

I'll ask here because it'll lost in the other thread.

Someone explain all these Zamasu's to me.

Now...the Zamasu in this episode, the green one, that's Zamasu from Trunks' timeline yeah?

The Zamasu who used the Super Dragon Balls to become Goku...is that the present Zamasu who Goku fought as a Super Saiyan because they showed a flashback to that. However he was killed and I didn't see anything to explain that.

Is there a third Zamasu?

I'll keep it simple:

Zamasu #1 was from our main timeline, he was killed by Beerus.

Zamasu #2 was from the Future, he is now immortal.

Zamasu #3 (a.k.a. Goku Black) comes from a timeline where Trunks never came to the past, but Goku still went to Universe 10 and fought Zamasu (for reasons that will probably never be explained). This is likely a result of the same hidden timeline effect that occurred during the Jinzoningen Arc.

The one thing I'm wondering is if the Super Dragon Balls are destroyed for all timelines or just the one Future Zamasu #3 was in?