"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Fizzer]

If Zamasu and Black fuse, will Zamasu² have Zamasu's immortality? If for some reason the immortality didn't carry over, I think fusing with Zamasu would be Black's downfall. Black's power is "the real deal", he has Goku's potential to get stronger and stronger, but once he fuses with Zamasu he's no longer a Goku copy but just an enemy. Goku can't beat Goku. Vegeta can't beat Goku. Goku and Vegeta CAN beat a bad guy, though.

[GodVegetto91]

If Zamasu and Black fuse, will Zamasu² have Zamasu's immortality? If for some reason the immortality didn't carry over, I think fusing with Zamasu would be Black's downfall. Black's power is "the real deal", he has Goku's potential to get stronger and stronger, but once he fuses with Zamasu he's no longer a Goku copy but just an enemy. Goku can't beat Goku. Vegeta can't beat Goku. Goku and Vegeta CAN beat a bad guy, though.

It makes no sense for him NOT to be immortal! A fused being usually has all the characteristics of either fusee. And since Akira Toriyama wants to make this arc as dark and desperate as possible the chances of this fused being retaining his immortality are as high as they go! Not only that, but the Omni-King himself will be involved! And it would make no sense for him to be involved if we're up against fodder who can still die.
This fused Being will be immortal AND have infinitely rising power!
Instant healing and the ability to copy any technique he sees. Making him the most dangerous and unstoppable opponent EVER!

[Lujin_16]

I'm the only one who thinks that Beerus sees Zamasu & Black fusion when he destroys the planet???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHOwNvfQI14

[Kanassa]

So, Gowasu will go the future world as well... This means that Goku & co. will also have a Potara set available for their fight against Merged Zamasu!

Don't say that. No. No. No. Godammit it's gonna happen isn't it?

Seems more likely every week. Gowasu hasn't been much more than a pair of Potaras so far either.

Gowasu: Hey! My eyes are over here!

[dbs fanboy]

FFS man. Super isn't on the same level as GT. It's been called the true successor to dragonball and has much more input from Toriyama. It isn't a side product. It's a main dish and you'll have to get used to it.

Honestly i think that both Super and GT are equal.
Think about it, both had an ok arc (BoG arc/Black Star arc), a terrible arc (RoF arc/Super 17 arc), a good arc (U6 arc/Shadow dragons arc) and a great arc (Future Trunks arc so far/Baby arc).

[Jinzoningen MULE]

FFS man. Super isn't on the same level as GT. It's been called the true successor to dragonball and has much more input from Toriyama. It isn't a side product. It's a main dish and you'll have to get used to it.

Honestly i think that both Super and GT are equal.
Think about it, both had an ok arc (BoG arc/Black Star arc), a terrible arc (RoF arc/Super 17 arc), a good arc (U6 arc/Shadow dragons arc) and a great arc (Future Trunks arc so far/Baby arc).

That's pretty subjective, I'd argue against every single rating here.

[LightBing]

Does anyone think Goku might have the same type of reaction he did after the Cell Games, when this arc is finished?
That is to blame himself for the evil inflicted on Earth. Before he had the excuse of being dead, easily leaving everything behind. Assuming he doesn't die after this arc, there's potential for much more.
Maybe Goku temporarily abandons fighting and needs the other characters to give him perspective.
I hope they take this chance for this type of storyline. If not Mr.Toriyama, maybe Toei.

[Chuquita]

If episode 43 (where Gokû temporarily loses his access to his powers) can happen, anything's possible.

[Lord Beerus]

Zamasu is proving to be one of the more genre savvy characters in Dragon Ball. Breaking the time machine and Mafuba jar? Well played. Zamasu is one hell of a magnificent bastard and this arc still has me second guessing as to how it will end.

[GodVegetto91]

Zamasu is proving to be one of the more genre savvy characters in Dragon Ball. Breaking the time machine and Mafuba jar? Well played. Zamasu is one hell of a magnificent bastard and this arc still has me second guessing as to how it will end.

Care to elaborate what that phrase means?

[Lord Beerus]

Zamasu is proving to be one of the more genre savvy characters in Dragon Ball. Breaking the time machine and Mafuba jar? Well played. Zamasu is one hell of a magnificent bastard and this arc still has me second guessing as to how it will end.

Care to elaborate what that phrase means?

It basically means a character that is self aware of certain circumstances that always seem to happen in specific types of stories.

[Legion]

I would be very disappointed if Zeno comes and he solves everything. Worst ending ever for me.

[GodVegetto91]

Zamasu is proving to be one of the more genre savvy characters in Dragon Ball. Breaking the time machine and Mafuba jar? Well played. Zamasu is one hell of a magnificent bastard and this arc still has me second guessing as to how it will end.

Care to elaborate what that phrase means?

It basically means a character that is self aware of certain circumstances that always seem to happen in specific types of stories.

Okay thank you.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I would be very disappointed if Zeno comes and he solves everything. Worst ending ever for me.

Beerus said he's not allowed to cross streams so that likely goes for KoA too.

[Noah]

Does an anime HAVE to be based off a manga to be considered the main product? Because I find that a bit silly.

Just because it doesn't reach expectations doesn't mean it needs to be justified with the label "side product" in the same way people justify GT's existence with the label "non-Canon". If someone doesn't like it, then it's ok to just not like it.

I say this because I have this odd feeling that if super was mind blowingly amazing then there wouldn't be any issue calling it the "main dish".

Unless your just refering to merch sales then I don't see how Super isn't the main product.

Yes, considering Dragon Ball was like that back then. If Toriyama ever decided (or even Toyotaro with his permission) to do a new weekly manga with an anime being its adaptation, I would have nothing to say, but don't get me wrong, pal... I'd enjoy Dragon Ball Super as a whole, even if it had a great plot, animation and fights consistent all the time, I would still say is not a main series

And being a side-product has nothing to do with canon in my personal opinion.

Zamasu is proving to be one of the more genre savvy characters in Dragon Ball. Breaking the time machine and Mafuba jar? Well played. Zamasu is one hell of a magnificent bastard and this arc still has me second guessing as to how it will end.

Well, it took him three escape attempts to think that, so I would say he is all that "savvy"

[Lord Beerus]

Zamasu is proving to be one of the more genre savvy characters in Dragon Ball. Breaking the time machine and Mafuba jar? Well played. Zamasu is one hell of a magnificent bastard and this arc still has me second guessing as to how it will end.

Well, it took him three escape attempts to think that, so I would say he is all that "savvy"

But prior to that, Zamasu had already destroyed one of the time machines as Goku Black.

[Boo Machine]

Does an anime HAVE to be based off a manga to be considered the main product? Because I find that a bit silly.

Just because it doesn't reach expectations doesn't mean it needs to be justified with the label "side product" in the same way people justify GT's existence with the label "non-Canon". If someone doesn't like it, then it's ok to just not like it.

I say this because I have this odd feeling that if super was mind blowingly amazing then there wouldn't be any issue calling it the "main dish".

Unless your just refering to merch sales then I don't see how Super isn't the main product.

Yes, considering Dragon Ball was like that back then. If Toriyama ever decided (or even Toyotaro with his permission) to do a new weekly manga with an anime being its adaptation, I would have nothing to say, but don't get me wrong, pal... I'd enjoy Dragon Ball Super as a whole, even if it had a great plot, animation and fights consistent all the time, I would still say is not a main series

And being a side-product has nothing to do with canon in my personal opinion.

What about anime that are only anime or start as anime? I'm assuming those don't need to be based off a manga to be a main product? Which is why I find it odd that Super does simply because it's Dragonball related.

And if Super isn't the main series then what currently is? Because Super is the only Dragonball series running right now as far as I'm aware of and it's also all over the merch. I'd get calling it a side thing if it was spin off of some kind.

[dragonballhero]

Does anyone think Goku might have the same type of reaction he did after the Cell Games, when this arc is finished?
That is to blame himself for the evil inflicted on Earth. Before he had the excuse of being dead, easily leaving everything behind. Assuming he doesn't die after this arc, there's potential for much more.
Maybe Goku temporarily abandons fighting and needs the other characters to give him perspective.
I hope they take this chance for this type of storyline. If not Mr.Toriyama, maybe Toei.

This has to happen. Honestly, I feel that Goku dying just won't happen. At his point, even DEATH seems like too easy of an option, even for him. Wow...that sounded a bit dark, didn't it?

[Fizzer]

I would be very disappointed if Zeno comes and he solves everything. Worst ending ever for me.

Beerus said he's not allowed to cross streams so that likely goes for KoA too.

I think Zeno can do anything. It's just a risk to involve him because upsetting him can be catastrophic.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I would be very disappointed if Zeno comes and he solves everything. Worst ending ever for me.

Beerus said he's not allowed to cross streams so that likely goes for KoA too.

I think Zeno can do anything. It's just a risk to involve him because upsetting him can be catastrophic.

I like the idea of bringing KoA is like a double edged sword like they may win but the whole Future Timeline could be gone as a result or something.