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Fanmanga - DB Multiverse
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Asura is definitely better than Toyotaro art wise. I don't dislike him but I feel like he can't properly make a big memorable scene fighting wise happen, he's almost too simplistic for his own good. Asura gives scenes added detail and a certain "omph!" I think Toyotaro could learn a thing or two from.
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The problem with Asura is, his art looks "too perfect". Dragon Ball 1-42 did not look like that.ekrolo2 wrote:Asura is definitely better than Toyotaro art wise. I don't dislike him but I feel like he can't properly make a big memorable scene fighting wise happen, he's almost too simplistic for his own good. Asura gives scenes added detail and a certain "omph!" I think Toyotaro could learn a thing or two from.
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I agree it can look almost too good to the point of potentially being rigid whereas Toyotaro never suffers from that problem. That being said, I'll take it over the entire Boo arc art which, barring the chapter where Goku kills Kid Boo, looks lazy as hell.Cetra wrote:The problem with Asura is, his art looks "too perfect". Dragon Ball 1-42 did not look like that.ekrolo2 wrote:Asura is definitely better than Toyotaro art wise. I don't dislike him but I feel like he can't properly make a big memorable scene fighting wise happen, he's almost too simplistic for his own good. Asura gives scenes added detail and a certain "omph!" I think Toyotaro could learn a thing or two from.
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I think Asura's art is better but Toyotaro's is much more Dragon Ball-esque. I think he nails Toriyama's art style in regards to character designs better than Asura, too. Asura's art is also too cluttered at points, there's too much stuff going on in certain pages.
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Which do you ultimately prefer then? Assuming Asura had a chance of drawing Super?Doctor. wrote:I think Asura's art is better but Toyotaro's is much more Dragon Ball-esque. I think he nails Toriyama's art style in regards to character designs better than Asura, too. Asura's art is also too cluttered at points, there's too much stuff going on in certain pages.
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I can give Asura the edge based on the technical quality of his art, but I think Toyotaro's panel layouts/storyboards are far more dynamic and visually interesting. He might not draw the characters as good (his lineart and shading can be a little primitive at times), but he draws them in more interesting postures/positions, and from more variable angles.
Also, it's worth noting that Toyotaro has to draw around 30 pages each month. As a hobbyist, Asura has more time to work on each page.
Also, it's worth noting that Toyotaro has to draw around 30 pages each month. As a hobbyist, Asura has more time to work on each page.
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Since Asura can only work on his free time and since DBM tries to keep a sort of schedule instead of just releasing whenever they want, I doubt that.ParkerAL wrote:Also, it's worth noting that Toyotaro has to draw around 30 pages each month. As a hobbyist, Asura has more time to work on each page.
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For Dragon Ball, Toyotaro. For an original work, Asura.Fionordequester wrote:Which do you ultimately prefer then? Assuming Asura had a chance of drawing Super?Doctor. wrote:I think Asura's art is better but Toyotaro's is much more Dragon Ball-esque. I think he nails Toriyama's art style in regards to character designs better than Asura, too. Asura's art is also too cluttered at points, there's too much stuff going on in certain pages.
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I understand that, but I feel there would at least be more time for him to consider whether he wants to make any improvements to a certain page. That happens a lot with the drawings I work on. I'll draw something in pencil and then come back and look at it again a few days (or often in my case, weeks) later with fresh eyes, to see if I notice any mistakes I want to touch up before inking. You end up approaching the work with a different (perhaps more deliberate) mindset.rereboy wrote:Since Asura can only work on his free time and since DBM tries to keep a sort of schedule instead of just releasing whenever they want, I doubt that.
In case it's not clear, I'm very impressed with Asura's output and professional work ethic. I just feel Toyotaro's schedule is probably a tad more constraining, especially when you consider the greater number of panels he includes in each page. Multiverse usually averages about five or six.
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Augenis wrote:The power level view into the series has trained a significant portion of the fan base into real life stereotypical members of the Freeza empire, where each and every individual is reduced to a floating number above their heads and any sudden changes to said number are met with shock and confusion.
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Please work. Please work.
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Ginyu.... If you pull this shit off.... By Odin's balls I will take back what I said about you in the unpopular opinions thread.
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If Ginyu succeeds, this might turn out to be one of the most satisfying moments in this whole tournament.
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I like where this is going!
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WHAT THE F@#?!
I'm so glad I didn't see that coming at all. Love it, even if it doesn't work.
It'll be interesting to reread all of Cold's scenes knowing it was Ginyu all along (unless it's Cold himself who somehow learned the Body Change but I doubt that).
I'm so glad I didn't see that coming at all. Love it, even if it doesn't work.
It'll be interesting to reread all of Cold's scenes knowing it was Ginyu all along (unless it's Cold himself who somehow learned the Body Change but I doubt that).
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So this whole time, Ginyu's been able to fool the Frieza Clan? Holy shit.TrunksTrevelyan0064 wrote:WHAT THE F@#?!
I'm so glad I didn't see that coming at all. Love it, even if it doesn't work.
It'll be interesting to reread all of Cold's scenes knowing it was Ginyu all along (unless it's Cold himself who somehow learned the Body Change but I doubt that).
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