"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by GodVegetto91 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:46 pm

So V Jump is out and these spoilers just got leaked, but the Manga is nowhere to be found yet. Weird :eh:

Why do people always say stuff like "it's Toei original" as if it is a fact, even though there's not a shred of evidence pointing towards it.? They said the same thing about Vegetto.

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Post by Neon Z » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:54 pm

GodVegetto91 wrote:So V Jump is out and these spoilers just got leaked, but the Manga is nowhere to be found yet. Weird :eh:

Why do people always say stuff like "it's Toei original" as if it is a fact, even though there's not a shred of evidence pointing towards it.? They said the same thing about Vegetto.
People were just being dumb regarding Vegetto (especially due to it referencing SSB eating energy, something that was in Toriyama's script but Toei had ignored in spite of keeping one line about that in the anime), but in this case we're waiting for the announcement of Toriyama's next arc in the 17th or 18th of the next month, and nothing in those pages mentions Toriyama, so it's likely not the arc that's going to be announced.
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Post by DHM211 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:11 pm

TheMikado wrote:The actual faces are literally almost exactly the same. Even the dimples and the shapes of them.
The dimples only look that way because while Zamasu and Merged Zamasu aren't talking, Goku Black is in mid sentence in that shot.
[Almost any difference could easily be attributed to either the angle or lighting. This is not a convincing screenshot at all.
It's pretty convincing imo.
Maybe if I only zoom in on certain facial features.
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(Keep in mind Black is speaking here, so his mouth is wider then it would be when he's not speaking)
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(First Blacks ear, the Merged Zamasu's ear, with Zamasu's ear being the one in the back.)[/spoiler]
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Post by ChronoTwigger » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:25 pm

To me the difference is noticeable, but indeed a more complex chara design could have helped to part him. It could look just as an hair model for Zamasu. Even the dress, they could have done something more. See Gotenks dress change.
It's a lazy or plain design. A good one, but lazy.
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Post by alakazam^ » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:00 pm

precita wrote:Why do people assume Yamcha will be playing baseball? There's no confirmation he'll be there.
The scan implies he'll have a role.

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Post by Grimlock » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:25 pm

Can someone translate it?

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

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Post by Kagari » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:37 pm

Goku finally wants to revive King Kai, how sweet.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:39 pm

Kagari wrote:Goku finally wants to revive King Kai, how sweet.
He should have done that years ago.

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Post by alakazam^ » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:43 pm

Grimlock wrote:Can someone translate it?

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Goku searches for the Dragon Balls to revive Kaiou but it looks like Bloomer and the others also want to have a wish granted.
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Post by Grimlock » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:44 pm

Assuming Vegeta is near, he should wish to bring Tarble or to revive King Vegeta already.

But they also could wish to make Goten and Trunks taller, or even Bulma probably wish Bra to be born.

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Post by precita » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:53 pm

I don't get it, how can gods like Beerus or Champa not be good at baseball? Wouldn't them swinging a bat at a ball literally knock it into another universe?

Yamcha in the early Saiyan saga was shown to hit home runs every time he was up to bat. This doesn't make sense.

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:31 am

TheMikado wrote: Would you be able to draw it up for us maybe? I've seen many designer who will be able to do a mark up and do comparison shots so hopefully you can help us see what you're seeing. In all measurable qualities of the actual facial features (mouth nose eyes) it seems to overwhelmingly favor Zamasu.
Unfortunately drawing people isn't something I am particular good at. From what i can tell you, Merged Zamasu has a rounder face compared to Future Zamasu whose face is more narrow.
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Post by Totamo » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:41 am

GodVegetto91 wrote:So V Jump is out and these spoilers just got leaked, but the Manga is nowhere to be found yet. Weird :eh:

Why do people always say stuff like "it's Toei original" as if it is a fact, even though there's not a shred of evidence pointing towards it.? They said the same thing about Vegetto.
Toei has a distinct feeling when it comes to dragon Ball like the ssb kaioken, I knew that was a Toei idea the moment I saw it.

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Post by Grimlock » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:43 am

Totamo wrote:Toei has a distinct feeling when it comes to dragon Ball like the ssb kaioken, I knew that was a Toei idea the moment I saw it.
Maybe. But Super Saiyan God is not Toriyama's thing too, as he once said there was no reason for Goku to transform into it ever again.

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 19, 2016 12:57 am

What you should be asking what different does it make whose idea it is. If you like an idea, you should like the idea, not care who came up with it. It isn't like all of Toriyama's idea an automatically perfect or better than Toei's just because he came up with it.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Sodhi » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:24 am

Grimlock wrote:Can someone translate it?

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Herms translated it
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/799873705597812737

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Post by Totamo » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:37 am

Grimlock wrote:
Totamo wrote:Toei has a distinct feeling when it comes to dragon Ball like the ssb kaioken, I knew that was a Toei idea the moment I saw it.
Maybe. But Super Saiyan God is not Toriyama's thing too, as he once said there was no reason for Goku to transform into it ever again.
He said that in an interview right? Yeah You can ignore everything he has said about that movie because he has changed his mind on a lot of things.
Tori retcons things a lot sometimes within chapters. He is an entertaining writer but a forgetful one as well.

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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:36 am

Totamo wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
Totamo wrote:Toei has a distinct feeling when it comes to dragon Ball like the ssb kaioken, I knew that was a Toei idea the moment I saw it.
Maybe. But Super Saiyan God is not Toriyama's thing too, as he once said there was no reason for Goku to transform into it ever again.
He said that in an interview right? Yeah You can ignore everything he has said about that movie because he has changed his mind on a lot of things.
Tori retcons things a lot sometimes within chapters. He is an entertaining writer but a forgetful one as well.
In the Resurrection 'F', the movie he wrote, he clearly see that Goku kept the power of godhood since he fought true form Freeza in his base form, when all the other Z-Fighters were weaker than first form Freeza.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by emperior » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:49 am

HeroR wrote:
Totamo wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
Maybe. But Super Saiyan God is not Toriyama's thing too, as he once said there was no reason for Goku to transform into it ever again.
He said that in an interview right? Yeah You can ignore everything he has said about that movie because he has changed his mind on a lot of things.
Tori retcons things a lot sometimes within chapters. He is an entertaining writer but a forgetful one as well.
In the Resurrection 'F', the movie he wrote, he clearly see that Goku kept the power of godhood since he fought true form Freeza in his base form, when all the other Z-Fighters were weaker than first form Freeza.
Yes, it's a shame both anime and manga decided to ignore it. I wonder if it was Toriyama telling them to do so.
Although the whole Champa Arc would make it stupid for Goku and Vegeta to be as strong as a Super Saiyan God in their base/SSJ form, seeing as Goku had to transform against Frost and base Vegeta was a strong as base Cabba.
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Post by HeroR » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:56 am

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Yes, it's a shame both anime and manga decided to ignore it. I wonder if it was Toriyama telling them to do so.
Although the whole Champa Arc would make it stupid for Goku and Vegeta to be as strong as a Super Saiyan God in their base/SSJ form, seeing as Goku had to transform against Frost and base Vegeta was a strong as base Cabba.
The anime didn't ignore Resurrection 'F'. Especially since the anime have base form Copy-Vegeta, who is exactly as strong as Vegeta, no sell Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks attacks. The anime also had Goku fighting Beerus in his base form when he was dressed as Monaka. The anime has constantly shown that Goku and Vegeta' base forms are on another level.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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