Is the Grand Priest evil?

[Yedis]

Grand Priest is way too powerful to be a villain for the Main Cast.

[MagmonKai]

I really don't think this guy is a bad guy. We've had that last arc with Zamasu. I can't imagine them rehashing that same story line. What would be his motives? And how in the hell can he overthrow two Omni King(s), the guy is literally a ticking time-bomb.

[Akyon]

(Angels btw, not angles. Sorry to be that guy, but it's really distracting seeing angles being discussed)

We haven't seen much of him yet, but from what I can gather he's evil or not evil depending on your perspective. Or what angle you see the angel.

To us mere mortals, the importance upon the universe we reside and it's many planets and beings is HUGE. To suggest wiping it out, is sinister, but to actually stand by and let it get destroyed is outright evil. Millions of lives wiped out in a second, for sport no less, and you can't be bothered to step in and prevent that? Seriously evil.

But to the Gods; or at least the gods above Beerus and Whis who reside outside the universes, these are merely creations of Zeno and he should be given the power to destroy what he deems fit. It's like a kid with an etch-a-sketch(old school). He's created something, but when he's bored maybe he'll clear the whole thing and start again. In that regard standing by and letting Zeno do what he wants with his creations is far less sinister.

"A lion doesn't concern itself with the opinion of sheep" is apt here. To Zeno and the Grand Priest, hell to MOST the gods in Dragonball outside Kaio; mortal concerns are no concerns of theirs.

[UpFromTheSkies]

He could be. The over head fish eye shot of him in the trailer does make him look sinister, and he's prominently displayed in the poster, suggesting he's going to be the focal point of the arc. Maybe this means we'll finally see Whis and Vados get serious in a fight.

[Lord Frieza]

There is zero evidence to show he's evil.

When they both showed up people made endless speculations about Whis and Vados being the next big bad despite no evidence hinting at such a thing. Like them, the Grand Priest has displayed nothing to show he is evil or has any evil intent, he is simply enigmatic just as his children where when they first appeared and like them he will not be a villain.

[UpFromTheSkies]

There is zero evidence to show he's evil.

Yeah, he's just holding a tournament that will end with the destruction of 11 universes, nothing evil about that.

And he doesn't look creepy here at all:

[Lord Frieza]

Not really, thats how his face looks at that angle. Thats like saying that just because Vados had that smug look on her face when she first showed up she "must" be evil.

Edit:...and look at this first shot of Whis....Pure Evil....this guy must be a scum bag based on the look on his face and the lighting.



And this guy cannot be evil at all can he.

[Saturnine]

Well, an angel fallen from grace is excellent material for a villain. They don't get much stronger than that, mind you. If Daishinkan proved to be that angel, shit would get hectic.

Millions of lives wiped out in a second, for sport no less, and you can't be bothered to step in and prevent that? Seriously evil.

More like quadrillions, honestly. If not more.

[ChronoTwigger]

I dunno.
Looking at the preview, the great attention gave to him shout clearly "ah, the bad guy!".
But that could simply be a cold aptitude.
That priest seems all about order. So, to "simplify" things, could be the one that propose eradication of losing universes.
And Zenos could agreed, being soooo neutral about life.
So, in that sense, he could be perceived as the "antagonist".

Anyway, there's a chance this way we get yummy worldbuilding facts. On how the universes get multiplied. And who create them!

I predicted god ki was stripped out of living being at the end of Super to avoid further mess. But those thoughts bring me to think about free the universes from gods control entirely... how this could happen? Let's see.

[Neon Z]

Why would he be evil? We had this nonsense last time with Vados and Hit. There will not be anyone evil in the tournament but maybe outside of the tournament.

This time it's kind of different though. Hit was clearly hyped as the biggest character in the U6 arc, add that to his mystery and people started speculating that he'd be evil, not just a competitor.

This time though, we have an upcoming tournament arc and the most hyped character (at least so far) isn't even a competitor? There's something odd about that. Then, there's the basic premise of the arc, which is obviously evil to anyone hearing about it. Universes destroyed due to a game? And the most hyped character is one of the tournament's organizers, rather than a competitor? This isn't the same as speculating that Whis or Vados would have hidden evil plans or Hit some unknown evil goal, the "evil" is pretty clear. It's just a matter of the characters reacting to it, and it'll be pretty odd if the cast is fine with it.

[namekiansaiyan]

Why would he be evil? We had this nonsense last time with Vados and Hit. There will not be anyone evil in the tournament but maybe outside of the tournament.

This time it's kind of different though. Hit was clearly hyped as the biggest character in the U6 arc, add that to his mystery and people started speculating that he'd be evil, not just a competitor.

This time though, we have an upcoming tournament arc and the most hyped character (at least so far) isn't even a competitor? There's something odd about that. Then, there's the basic premise of the arc, which is obviously evil to anyone hearing about it. Universes destroyed due to a game? And the most hyped character is one of the tournament's organizers, rather than a competitor? This isn't the same as speculating that Whis or Vados would have hidden evil plans or Hit some unknown evil goal, the "evil" is pretty clear. It's just a matter of the characters reacting to it, and it'll be pretty odd if the cast is fine with it.

I never thought Hit or Vados was evil at any point.

I do not see the hype that everyone has with the Grand Priest or Gohan. I just see the Grand Priest as the person who is organising and running the tournament and Gohan as a standard member of team Universe 7. Nothing more and nothing less.

[Neon Z]

I never thought Hit or Vados was evil at any point.

I do not see the hype that everyone has with the Grand Priest or Gohan. I just see the Grand Priest as the person who is organising and running the tournament and Gohan as a standard member of team Universe 7. Nothing more and nothing less.

I agree with you about Gohan, there's nothing special about his placement, but the Grand priest is prominently featured on the key art for the arc rather than a possible rival competitor from another team. Maybe that will change when we get closer to the tournament though, but if he continues being featured as the biggest promoted character it'll be clear that this tournament won't go to the ending. It'd make no sense to promote someone who's just an observer. Even though it was the "Champa arc", all the artwork featured Hit in the most important positions alongside Goku since the big climatic battle was against him.

[namekiansaiyan]

I never thought Hit or Vados was evil at any point.

I do not see the hype that everyone has with the Grand Priest or Gohan. I just see the Grand Priest as the person who is organising and running the tournament and Gohan as a standard member of team Universe 7. Nothing more and nothing less.

I agree with you about Gohan, there's nothing special about his placement, but the Grand priest is prominently featured on the key art for the arc rather than a possible rival competitor from another team. Maybe that will change when we get closer to the tournament though, but if he continues being featured as the biggest promoted character it'll be clear that this tournament won't go to the ending. It'd make no sense to promote someone who's just an observer. Even though it was the "Champa arc", all the artwork featured Hit in the most important positions alongside Goku since the big climatic battle was against him.

You may be right but I think he might be in the middle because there is 2 Zeno's and it makes it look good.

To me I think the way the 10 fighters are positioned means something.

[Freeza9000]

There's zero evidence so far about the Daishinkan that screams "EVIL!!!". He's just mysterious, that's all.

[Hakaishin Saitama]

I don't think he's evil.

However, I could see him turning on Zeno with 'good' motivation depending on your viewpoint: taking Zeno out to stop what appears to be the senseless destruction of universes and their inhabitants. Also, it's quite possible Zeno destroys the angels of those universes along with everything else, and if Daishinkan is father to other angels this would make it personal at his level with Zeno's behavior.

Has Zeno actually ever been confirmed to be the 'creator' of the universes? I only remember him being discussed as 'king of all' with the power to DESTROY (not necessarily create) anything in an instant. Begs the question whether or not he creates the universes, someone else creates them, or they spawn out of nothingness (there could be the creation 'ying' to his destruction 'yang' just like the hakaishins and kaioshins). He does seem to have a penchant for only destruction - I haven't heard anything about him 'adding' universes to the world, and this upcoming tournament and its consequences follows the same destructive tendencies.

[Cipher]

I mean, we know the Zenos, and by proxy the Daishinkan, are at least the antagonists of the arc at its start, by way of providing the threat. Whether there's anything more sinister afoot than standard godly indifference/naivete could go either way.

But I don't think that manga panel is anything but a dramatic angle for his delivering some sort of flooring news. Most likely the rules of the tournament.

As for placement in promotional art, we all remember that V-Jump spread that gave prominence to Monaka, right?

Also, yeah, there was major speculation that both Whis and Vados were going to be villains when they first appeared, and that Zamasu was going to be neutral or good. Wrong on all three counts.

[DragonBallFoodie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS0gno1bEX4

The new ending seems to confirm there will be an evil angel. But I don't know if it will be the Grand Priest.

[Nejishiki]

Has Zeno actually ever been confirmed to be the 'creator' of the universes? I only remember him being discussed as 'king of all' with the power to DESTROY (not necessarily create) anything in an instant. Begs the question whether or not he creates the universes, someone else creates them, or they spawn out of nothingness (there could be the creation 'ying' to his destruction 'yang' just like the hakaishins and kaioshins). He does seem to have a penchant for only destruction - I haven't heard anything about him 'adding' universes to the world, and this upcoming tournament and its consequences follows the same destructive tendencies.

I'm afraid not. To my recollection, there's no dialogue about Zeno creating anything, much less existence itself. His reputation revolves around his short temper & complete destruction of others. I'm curious whether anyone handles creation duties outside of the Kaioshin myself. It's probably not likely, I think. Our best chance to find out was with Future Zeno. Unfortunately, Goku takes him away before he starts his Future plans. I do find it interesting that the universes rest on pillars outside his throne, as if they're his personal marble collection. That will make you feel insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

[Melab]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS0gno1bEX4

The new ending seems to confirm there will be an evil angel. But I don't know if it will be the Grand Priest.

How?

[aravinthan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS0gno1bEX4

The new ending seems to confirm there will be an evil angel. But I don't know if it will be the Grand Priest.

How?

Probably a crazy YouTuber says some crazy fake stuffs and calls it as theory or speculation with a fan made crazy thumbnail like Goku Ssb +ssj3 with a tail