Things that grind your gears

[Alruneia]

Fans using the term "ningen" as some pretentious, exotic phrase for the beings that Zamasu hates (e.g. "mortals").
*SPEAK BLOODY ENGLISH!!!*

NINGEN REEEEEEEEEEE

Lack of reference to years being mentioned in the anime.
Self-explanatory

I think they're actually afraid of doing it. Referring to time passing while also having time not pass (look at the character designs, where some people are still in their F designs, notably Bulma, while others have regressed to their BoG designs, notably Goku and Vegeta) would be a very odd thing to do. It's almost like they're trying to avoid messing up EoZ or something...
Well, for now, anyway.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Time travel shenanigans
I admit that it was already problematic during the Cell arc, but at least it was easier to follow (by comparison) until Goku Black and Zamasu showed up. Don't even get me started on Toyotaro's line about time travel being done before Trunks did!

What's the problem? Why does Bulma have to be the only one who ever invented time travel? The Dragon Ball world is absolutely MASSIVE, it would be a bit ridiculous if the Android Arc had been the first time. Also, Gowasu had already heavily implied older time splits in the anime, Toyotaro just took the extra step of inserting specific lore.

Interestingly enough, Trunks implies the exact opposite in Xenoverse, saying the he was the first to change time, and that others followed suit. So Xeno and DBS exist in slightly different continuities for sure, if that was ever in question.

[keyz05]

I have a lot to say. The DragonBall fanbase has been getting on my nerves lately, so I need to jot all this down.

-The Youtubers. They annoy me a lot in my opinion. Geekdom101, Rhymestyle, Expergamez, Laughingstockmedia, and so much more to think of. My god, I wish these people could just, you know, SHUT UP! DragonBall is Toriyama's franchise and he could do whatever he want with it. These people are annoying and I unsubbed to their channel. I just can't take it anymore.

-Fans debate on Goku Vs. Fictional character. Especially, the infamous Goku Vs. Superman. Oh my god, I have to AVOID that one as well. It's too hard for me to get into it.

-Super's animation. I like Super and newer DragonBall content, no matter what. I just hate it when fans just randomly backlash it.

-Xenoverse 2 complaining. I love Xenoverse 2 and think it's a masterpiece. Hating all the guys that bash the game, for no reason and accept it as opinion.

-People complaining that Bruce Falcouner was better than the original soundtrack in Japan. Wow... This one is even more stupid, in my opinion. Understand that the Japanese dub DOES NOT have the same exact music as everyone else wants. It's foreign and I don't care about which is better. Music is Music.

Can't wait for DragonBall to officially return in 2017. But still, the fanbase just keeps annoying at every inch of my skin. They just can't learn, be ignorant over a lot of things, and just accept that their opinion is a fact. Then, there are predictions and I hate that. Won't ever explain that again just because I've explained it before in my list.

Anyone can reply.

I'm only gravitating towards the YouTube part of your post, as its the only thing that has managed to piss me off besides the tirade of men, and women taking their time to shit on Golden Freeza's design.

Why do they annoy you? why the hell can't they criticize shitty decisions in the franchise, or is Toriyama-sempai an untouchable god, and his all perfect franchise Dragon ball(TM) untouchable to criticism?

They annoy me because they do criticize the bad decisions in the franchise. And also, they won't stop the predictions, the theories, and all the other crap that they keep bringing up. It's actually frustrating.

[keyz05]

Things that grind your gears about Dragon Ball.

-The Sub vs dub debate

-super not passing the eoz

- the stupid click bait videos like OMFG a new god of destruction

-the fact that super Saiyan is a cheap way to power up a characters

-and the whole chi chi ruin Gohan thing is ridiculous

-and people still make lame and outdated memes like krillin and yamcha is weak goku bad parenting over 9000 etc

-fans demanding more Saiyans in DB super

ALL OF THESE. THANK YOU.

The fact that we have certain youtubers praise and hype up literally most episodes of Super (especially the Future Trunks arc) in their episode reviews and in the end call the arc mediocre or bad.
"Oh, there was this one part I did not like at the end. I guess that means the arc is complete shit now and all my excitement and thrill that I got from watching the arc is now all void."

Well, for me, the ending of the Black/Zamasu Saga killed the arc. I can still enjoy the good parts, but the terrible ending will always be in the back of my mind.

I have a lot to say. The DragonBall fanbase has been getting on my nerves lately, so I need to jot all this down.

-Super's animation. I like Super and newer DragonBall content, no matter what. I just hate it when fans just randomly backlash it.

-Xenoverse 2 complaining. I love Xenoverse 2 and think it's a masterpiece. Hating all the guys that bash the game, for no reason and accept it as opinion.

What's the problem with criticizing animation when it's bad? Liking Super just because it's Dragon Ball no matter what isn't very logical. Sure, it's great to be excited about new content, we all are, but that doesn't mean we should accept bad animation like in the RF arc. Sure, most of the time it's not nearly as bad as people say, and there are some who hate it just to be "funny" or "cool," but yeah. There are some complaints about Super that are completely valid, so it's no use getting annoyed over.

Xenoverse 2 is a good game but it's not that great. Could've very easily been DLC or a patch for XV1. Nowhere near a masterpiece. Could have been, but Dimps was incredibly lazy. People have opinions, as you said, so why get mad if their opinions differ from yours?[/quote]
It's because these opinions are too much for me to handle, leaving me no choice but to bash on them. Also, I have to disagree about Dimps being lazy and Xenoverse 2 being a DLC. The game was solid and I gave it a 10/10.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

They annoy me because they do criticize the bad decisions in the franchise. And also, they won't stop the predictions, the theories, and all the other crap that they keep bringing up. It's actually frustrating.

I'm not even trying to be rude, but it really comes off like you're upset because it hurts your feelings that they disagree or think differently from you. I usually don't watch anything from them other than Geekdom's interviews, which are pretty interesting, but my (admittedly little) online interaction with them has been just fine.

By the way, criticism is a good thing. Without detraction, there's no improvement. No one criticizes something unless they genuinely want it to flourish.

[Bansho64]

They annoy me because they do criticize the bad decisions in the franchise. And also, they won't stop the predictions, the theories, and all the other crap that they keep bringing up. It's actually frustrating.

It sounds like you just hate everything they do for little to no reason. Like, there's absolutely no actual criticism of their work in your responses. It's just "I hate this" for no reason whatsoever. Even when someone asked you why, that response is all you gave them. All this is, is mindless bashing.

By the way, criticism is a good thing. Without detraction, there's no improvement. No one criticizes something unless they genuinely want it to flourish.

You took the words right out of my mouth sir.

[Akyon]

Recently there's been a picture circulating of Black, Super Buu, Goku, Gohan, Vegeta, Future Trunks, Broly, Perfect Cell, Golden Frieza and Android 16 with the caption "What if this was Universe 7's team?" and a bunch of comments about how cool it'd be to have that as the team or "It should have been this team!" and it ground my gears something fierce for a few reasons;

Black's not even from Universe 7, Broly's not actually a canon character and 6/10 are super saiyans. 7/10 if you count Cell having the DNA of one. Android 16's an interesting choice but otherwise this team seems like a snooze fest; just grab the biggest villains of Z, and as many super saiyans as you possibly can and BAM, this team is better than having any of the humans, Piccolo or the other Androids.

Guess I more generally hate the whole power=good character association some of the more vocal western fanbase have on other websites.

[Anime Kitten]

No offense to anyone in particular, but it really annoys me on Kanzenshuu when people use "the dub" to refer to FUNimation's various English dubs. Because, you know, there's other language dubs out there too!

[Bansho64]

No offense to anyone in particular, but it really annoys me on Kanzenshuu when people use "the dub" to refer to FUNimation's various English dubs. Because, you know, there's other language dubs out there too!

I can kinda sympathize with this sentiment. We have people from all over coming to this site. It's gonna seem kinda weird to just say "the dub" and have them not know what's going on. Unless the discussion is specifically referring to a specific dub, it's best to specify the langauge, dubbing company, etc. It's not necessarily something that "grinds my gears", per se, but it can irk me a bit.

[The Patrolman]

What grinds my gear is when people compare dub Goku to Superman. Sure he was portrayed as more of a goody two shoes but to be compare to Superman is something. Oh he made a heroic speech but I know like dozens of characters who make those and they come off as a Superman wannabe. Sure Goku is selfish but he does care about people.

[rereboy]

What grinds my gear is when people compare dub Goku to Superman. Sure he was portrayed as more of a goody two shoes but to be compare to Superman is something. Oh he made a heroic speech but I know like dozens of characters who make those and they come off as a Superman wannabe. Sure Goku is selfish but he does care about people.

It's because of what was actually said in that speech.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

No offense to anyone in particular, but it really annoys me on Kanzenshuu when people use "the dub" to refer to FUNimation's various English dubs. Because, you know, there's other language dubs out there too!

We're mostly comprised of the English community. More specifically, we're mostly the English community of the United States, Canada, and the UK. We don't need to be hyper-literal with our terminology in these regards, that's counter-intuitive.

[SaiyanGod117]

-When people say "without nostalgia Dragon Ball is shit lol it can compete with other series like FMA, Code Geass, or other legit good series " I really don't see this, but when they thrown in the lol I get so mad.

-Sub purist calling the Dub trash
-Sub purist thinking Kikuchi is just some untouchable or unassailable composer, I will admit his good he's not that good though. His tracks seem a little outdated now, Yamamoto tracks are better plagiarism aside.
-People saying Naruto is better than Dragon Ball.

[Gog]

Time travel shenanigans
I admit that it was already problematic during the Cell arc, but at least it was easier to follow (by comparison) until Goku Black and Zamasu showed up. Don't even get me started on Toyotaro's line about time travel being done before Trunks did!

Lack of reference to years being mentioned in the anime.
Self-explanatory

Fans using the term "ningen" as some pretentious, exotic phrase for the beings that Zamasu hates (e.g. "mortals").
*SPEAK BLOODY ENGLISH!!!*

Hey, Hey, hey.

Only a filthy Ningen would take offense to that term. Does that mean your a Ningen then?

Don't you know what we do to Ningen here.

[Anime Kitten]

We're mostly comprised of the English community. More specifically, we're mostly the English community of the United States, Canada, and the UK. We don't need to be hyper-literal with our terminology in these regards, that's counter-intuitive.

Well... using that logic, should I say "the language" when referring to English because we all write in English?

-People saying Naruto is better than Dragon Ball.

*cough*

But seriously, though, how come? Why can't people have preferences other than your own?

[Saikyo no Senshi]

-Sub purist calling the Dub trash
-Sub purist thinking Kikuchi is just some untouchable or unassailable composer, I will admit his good he's not that good though. His tracks seem a little outdated now, Yamamoto tracks are better plagiarism aside.
-People saying Naruto is better than Dragon Ball.

Reverse the first one, replace Kikuchi with Team Faulconer and reverse the last one again and they all grind my gears. I can do that too.

But, seriously there's nothing left in this thread anymore. It's the same thing over and over again. Nothing but negativity and its not even anything new, just the same.

[Robo4900]

But, seriously there's nothing left in this thread anymore. It's the same thing over and over again. Nothing but negativity and its not even anything new, just the same.

Challenge accepted.

• The constant calling for a timeskip in Super. Yes, I'd like to see more post-Z content, but we still have a good few years of in-universe time left before the Peaceful World mini-arc. Hell, Bra hasn't even been born yet!
• The annoyingly pervasive attitude of "You over there, stop having fun." from some people, who don't like a particular thing, and believe everyone who doesn't agree with them is objectively wrong(Anti-Kai people being the prime example).
• People constantly saying (Or heavily implying) that nostalgia is a bad thing.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

We're mostly comprised of the English community. More specifically, we're mostly the English community of the United States, Canada, and the UK. We don't need to be hyper-literal with our terminology in these regards, that's counter-intuitive.

Well... using that logic, should I say "the language" when referring to English because we all write in English?

No, by my logic we use the common vernacular rather than being annoyingly specific. Your analogy of my principal doesn't even work, because I'm not suggesting we ignore other languages, I'm saying we don't use a roundabout way of talking when only native or well-learned English speakers are communicating. However, there are some members on here who haven't mastered English, if we're communicating with them, you're idea of being hyper-specific with language would make sense, but elongating language between ourselves for no good reason is counterintuitive and wrong.

[Kanassa]

Nothing but negativity

You expected a lot of posativity in a thread talking about things that piss you off?

[ABED]

Dismissing characters as uninteresting or lacking dimension because they don't have some tragic background. Apparently every villain needs to be "the hero of their own story" in order to be a full character.

Dismissing power lust as a valid character motivation.